2010 NY Giants

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  1. whiteathlete33

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    Several reports are stating that Rich Seubert may lose his starting job to sumo guard Guy Whimper. Here is a report from Rotoworld

    Giants LG Rich Seubert is in danger of losing his starting job,
    according to ESPN's Len Pasquarelli.
    <div ="s_pNewsTextMain">Guy Whimper has been getting snaps with the
    first unit during spring practices and there's also a chance that David
    Diehl could kick inside if William Beatty proves he can handle the left
    tackle spot. Seubert graded out as the No. 26 overall guard last
    season, according to Profootballfocus.com. He was especially poor in
    run-blocking.
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  2. Leonardfan

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    Dont the Giants have some black GM in charge now? He is doing his best to blacken the o-line...the 4/5ths white oline that won them the super bowl.
     
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    The Giants sign safety John Busing and Rotoworld continues it's biased opinion against white athletes.

    Giants signed S John Busing.
    <div ="s_pNewsTextMain"> If
    Giants fans thought C.C. Brown was abysmal in coverage last season, wait
    til they get a load of Busing. The former Texans safety won't have a
    big role on defense, but he could help the Giants as a gunner on special
    teams if he makes the final roster.
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    I'd bet a steak dinner that this Rotoworld guy has never even seen Busing play! In very limited action last year for the Texans where he played sparingly in 12 games, started 4, he had 32 tackles, and interception and was credited with 3 passes defensed (he had more than that, just in the games I saw).
     
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    John Busing actually played pretty decent for the Texans last year. I vaguely remember a play against the Titans that he made but was called for a penalty...it was a non-call but the powers that be had to keep the Vnce Young "AHDIW" MYTH alive.
     
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    Busingwas madethe fall guy for the Texans' problems on defense last year. Houston was getting precariously close to having half White starters overall, which, like having a majority White roster, is an unwritten no-go zone in the NFL.
     
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    Castefootball looks at the 2010 NY Giants

    The Giants are a rarity in the NFL. The reason I say this is they had a starting cornerback in the early 2000's in Jason Sehorn and started a white running back in Sean Bennett in 1999 although it was only for a few games. Sehorn at one point was considered one of the top corners in the league. Don't expect any white players at the taboo positions on this version of the Giants. They look to start a total of seven white players this season, all on offense. Tight end Kevin Boss is injured at the moment so it stands at 6.

    The starting quarterback is Eli Manning. Manning's brother Peyton is the best quarterback in the league right now. Eli is a top five quarterback. Drafted in 2004 Manning struggled his first few seasons in the league. Although he will never be as good as his brother he has already made one Pro Bowl in 2008. The backup quarterback is journeyman Sage Rosenfels who in his limited starts in Miami and Houston has proved to be a solid player.

    Madison Hedgecock plays the role of fullback or human battering ram for the team. An excellent blocker who weighs in at 266lbs Hedgecock was a Pro Bowl alternate in 2008. He is very rarely used as a runner and is hardly ever thrown to.

    The starting tight end is Kevin Boss who is currently injured. Travis Beckum is filling in for him. Boss can do it all. He's an excellent blocker and has shown the ability to be a receiving threat. He was actually expected to be the Giants leading receiver last season but due to the emergence of Hakeem Nicks he wasn't thrown to as much.

    Chris Snee out of Boston College starts at right guard. Snee is the son-in-law of head coach Tom Coughlin and has made the past two Pro Bowls. He's a crucial part of the Giants success and opens up huge holes for the Giants running backs.

    At center is local product Shaun O'Hara. Undrafted in 2000 O'Hara has made the past two Pro Bowls as well. He's widely regarded as a top three center in the league.

    At left guard is Rich Seubert. Seubert is another white offensive linemen who scouts felt wasn't good enough to play in the NFL. He went undrafted in 2001 and was actually used at tight end in 2006. He was then moved back to his original position

    The final white starter for the Giants is left tackle David Diehl. He's been a starter for the Giants his entire career and gets better with age. He also made the Pro Bowl in 2009 giving the Giants three offensive linemen who made it last year.

    The defensive side of the ball has zero white starters. This is becoming increasingly common on many teams in the league. Dave Tollefson from Northwest Missouri State is the backup defensive end.

    Total white starters:7(currently 6 with Kevin Boss injured

    Grade D-
    Total white players on roster:16(including kickers and long snapper)
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  9. whiteathlete33

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    THis is a good one. From Rotoworld:

    In a recent interview from prison, WR Plaxico Burress was quoted as
    saying, "I'm not just going to come back and play," Burress said. "I'm
    going to come back and play at a high level."
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    Burress will be 34 and coming off or two missed seasons should he
    return in 2011. He'll probably get a look in camp, but it's anyone's
    guess as to how much he would have left in the tank.

    Just wait till Burress gets out. I'm sure plenty of teams will want to sign him. That can't be said for Matt Jones.
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  10. Colonel_Reb

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    The injuries just keep piling up.http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5611505

    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Two key Giants have injury concerns heading into Sunday's home game against Tennessee.

    Defensive end Justin Tuck
    missed Friday's practice with a stiff left shoulder, the same shoulder
    that was surgically-repaired in the offseason. Also, center Shaun O'Hara is listed as doubtful after he missed his third consecutive practice with left ankle and left Achilles injuries.

    Tuck said Friday that he woke up with stiffness in the shoulder but that he's confident that he'll play on Sunday.

    "I
    woke up stiff, and coach said, 'We know what you can do and you know
    the offense, so sit out,'" Tuck said. "I am going to play [Sunday]."










    Tuck sat out a few plays during last Sunday
    night's loss to the Colts with shoulder pain and acknowledged on Friday
    that the pain was in the same left shoulder that bothered him for most
    of last season.

    The sixth-year pro suffered a partially-torn
    labrum in Week 2 against the Cowboys last season and played the entire
    year in pain, with the ailment protected by a harness. He had offseason
    surgery to correct the injury and said on Friday that he still feels in
    pain in that area "every day."

    Tuck didn't think he'd have to play through the same pain that he endured through the final 14 weeks of 2009.

    "It's different. Last year, I was injured. This year, it's just hurting, so I'm good," he said.

    Mathias Kiwanuka
    would likely replace Tuck at defensive end against the Titans. The
    Giants, of course, would be losing a lot if Tuck isn't able to suit up
    on Sunday. Tuck managed just six sacks last season while playing through
    pain but had 12 in 2008 and 10 in 2007.

    Giants coach Tom Coughlin didn't entirely rule O'Hara out for Sunday but lineman Adam Koets said on Friday he was preparing to start at center. Koets took snaps at center on Thursday and Friday.

    "Obviously
    to get this opportunity, I'm excited," said Koets, a fourth-year pro
    drafted by the Giants in 2007. "I've been here a long time and I'm ready
    to show what I can do."

    O'Hara initially had swelling in his
    ankle and then developed an Achillies injury in the preseason. He wore a
    boot this week to protect the ailment. He said earlier this season that
    he would monitor the injury throughout the season. O'Hara was not
    available for comment on Friday.

    Coughlin said O'Hara's status wouldn't affect the Giants' approach on offense.

    "This
    is what we've prepared for and Koets has played in there before," the
    Giants coach said Friday. "He's played in there with big people on his
    nose and done a good job."

    The Giants should have a healthy Kevin Boss
    back on Sunday. The Giants tight end missed the team's Week 2 loss at
    Indianapolis with concussion symptoms. He suffered the concussion in the
    first quarter of the Giants' season-opening win over Carolina, when he
    took a helmet-to-helmet hit from Carolina safety Sherrod Martin. Boss says he's ready to play. The team listed him as probable.
     
  11. Colonel_Reb

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    Coughlin talking to affletes and calling for more professionalism. If the NFL wasn't all about exploiting and disenfranchising White men, they would rarely have these kinds of problems.http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5603423

    EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Before the New York Giants could completely focus on the Tennessee T-fairies and Chris Johnson, head coach Tom Coughlin had to exercise a little damage control and meet with Antrel Rolle and Brandon Jacobs separately to air out any differences the two have had recently with the team.

    The
    head coach said he had a "good conversation" with Rolle after the
    veteran safety questioned the "controlled" atmosphere around the team
    and the leadership in the locker room among other things.

    Rolle
    said he apologized to his head coach and described the meeting as very
    productive. He also stood by all the concerns he voiced on Tuesday in a
    radio interview.

    "I don't feel like I was talking out of turn at
    all," Rolle said. "I think what I said needed to be said. I definitely
    should have come to Tom Coughlin before anyone else which was my bad but
    what I said needed to be said.

    "I definitely see some things," he
    added. "I am a part of the problem myself. I am a part of this team.
    I'm just as guilty as anybody in this locker room."<div><div style="margin-left: 10px; width: 200px;">[+] Enlarge[​IMG]<div style="width: 200px;"><cite>AP Photo/Evan Pinkus</cite>Brandon Jacobs apologized to the media and his teammates following a meeting with head coach Tom Coughlin.</div></div></div>At
    the same time Rolle was talking in the Giants' locker room, Jacobs
    issued apologies to the media, the Giants and Colts organizations and to
    Colts fans for his recent behavior and helmet toss in Indianapolis.


    On Monday, Coughlin met with Jacobs and told the running back he would like to see more "professionalism."

    Jacobs has had trouble containing his emotions and has been frustrated with his diminished role behind Ahmad Bradshaw. He met with both Coughlin and general manager Jerry Reese
    about his role amidst a report that he wanted to ask for a trade. He
    said he has not asked for a trade and is ready to give his all to the
    Giants.

    Jacobs had been a 6-foot-4, 264-pound volcano ready to
    erupt at any moment. He has snapped at reporters and used profanity this
    season when he didn't like the line of questioning pertaining to his
    role.

    "I want to start by saying to you guys (the media) for the
    last month, it hasn't been so pleasant dealing with me," Jacobs said.
    "I've been in a state of mind where I hated all of you guys and I
    apologize to each and every one of you for acting the way I've been
    acting the last month or so."

    "Secondly, I want to apologize to my
    teammates for putting them in a position to answer these questions
    about me when they should be focusing on winning games."

    Even though his teammates have said that he has not been a distraction,
    Jacobs now says he has clarity on his role and why he is a backup after
    being the starter.

    "Just to put this whole thing to bed, my issue
    was with this whole thing was the explanation of why all this
    happened," Jacobs said. "I didn't have one. I have one now. All this
    stuff is gone. All of it's done and we're moving forward. So that what
    it was that lit my dynamite is an explanation of what was going on."

    Over the past few days, Rolle and Jacobs created the appearance that the Giants were a combustible bunch with various issues.

    Entering the season, leadership was a question mark on this team after Antonio Pierce was released. Coughlin has been looking for players like Justin Tuck
    to emerge as leaders this season. He revealed on Wednesday that he
    dissolved his Leadership Council which consisted of select players in
    the locker room.









    The Council, created in 2007, wasn't as "effective" last season when the Giants finished 8-8.

    The team captains this year -- quarterback Eli Manning, defensive end Tuck and linebacker Chase Blackburn -- are basically Coughlin's Council now.

    "I'm
    relying on the captains right now to communicate with the players and
    then the captains and I will meet," Coughlin said. "At this point in
    time, I feel good about that. I did not feel the leadership council from
    a year ago was as effective as it's been in the past."


    Rolle didn't feel good about anything that transpired on Sunday
    before, during or after the Colts' 38-14 rout. Quick to take the blame
    for his own play, Rolle took exception to everything from how the team
    showed up too early for the game to the lack of leadership from players
    in the locker room.

    "I don't think there was enough fight, I
    don't think there was enough being said, I don't think there was enough
    attitude, enough anger towards getting your butt whooped the way we were
    getting whooped," Rolle said. "And that was my problem."

    "I just
    felt like there wasn't enough leadership," added Rolle, who is in the
    first year of a five-year, $37 million deal. "It's going to be fixed. I
    didn't speak out of anger. I want to nip it in the bud now before things
    prolong."

    Rolle did not want to discuss or elaborate on his most
    critical comments about the atmosphere being too "controlled" in the
    organization.

    As for his feelings about the Giants arriving to
    the stadium too early -- three hours and 15 minutes -- before the game
    and that leading to a lackadaisical effort, Rolle discussed it with
    Coughlin.

    "He came back and said, 'Antrel, the schedules are set'
    and he had never had any complaints about it before," Rolle said. "Just
    because it is not being said, doesn't mean that they don't feel that
    way. I was expressing what I felt but it was also a relayed message on
    behalf of the team."

    The Giants need to give their full attention
    this week toward stopping Titans' all-world running back Chris Johnson.
    But before they could do that, they had to take care of some issues at
    home.

    "Sometimes it's needed," cornerback Terrell Thomas
    said of Rolle's comments. "Whether it is bad or good. I think he did
    the right thing. Regardless of what he said, he got everybody's
    attention and that is what we needed."
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  12. ToughJ.Riggins

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    "Coughlin talking to affletes and calling for more professionalism. If the NFL wasn't all about exploiting and disenfranchising White men, they would rarely have these kinds of problems."

    Yes, the NFL's blacks are so appeased and catered to it has spoiled them. I mean Pac Man Jones is back in the league again for God's sake- and Chris Henry was a role model according to MJD of Yahoo. Meanwhile Matt Jones was kicked out of the league for violating his probation by merely drinking a beer.

    There are so many examples of entitlements and quotas- keeping troubled and sometimes even pedestrian black talents in the league for years which doesn't hold them accountable. The situation is pathetic Colonel.
     
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    Yeah Tough, the entitlement mentality grows amongst the diversities while the appeasement mentality apparently keeps growing amongst Whites. I am sometimes amazed at the ignorance of so many Whites. You'd think I would become used to it, but at times I see new lows that make me shake my head once again. At times the situation seems hopeless. But there are encouraging signs as well, and so I keep writing, talking, and hoping that Whites will wake up before we see to our own collective funeral.
     
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    A coal-black defense is superior? [​IMG]
     
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    Kevin Boss is an excellent receiver and was even expected to lead the Giants in receptions last year. Unfortunately he's been used mostly for blocking despite nice speed and athleticism.

    Giants TE Kevin Boss' numbers have gone down as the team has asked him to focus on his blocking.
    <div ="s_pNewsTextMain"> The blocking is much improved, but he's no longer a fantasy option, even in the deepest of leagues.</div>
     
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    It took the Giantsa merefour and a halfseasons to realize "Sinorice" isn't anywhere near the receiver big brother Santana is. Which team will be the next one to hire him to "ply his trade"?:

    Giants waived WR Sinorice Moss with an injury settlement. Moss had been on injured reserve after undergoing sports hernia surgery in late August. The settlement likely means that Moss is getting back to full health and wants to ply his trade elsewhere. The 2006 second-rounder closes the books on his disappointing Giants career with 39 receptions and 421 yards over four seasons.
     
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    With the injury to Hakeem Nicks, the Giants are likely to being back free agent WR Kevin Curtis for another tryout.

    Curtis worked out for the Giants last week and reportedly wants to sign with a team by Tuesday. There's a pretty decent chance the Giants will sign him, though they could choose to add Samuel Giguere from the practice squad instead. Curtis had surgery in September to remove a cancerous testicle, but he appears to be over that, as well as his knee issues.
    Source: New York Daily News

    as excited as i'd be for Kevin to be back in the NFL, if younger Giguere is to have a serious shot, i'd rather see him playing for Giants. what do you guys think?
     
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    Id be happy with either of them assuming theyd be getting lots of playing time.
     
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    I'd rather see Curtis right now because of his experience. The Giants passing game is in desperation mode now with all the injuries and Curtis can make an immediate impact.







    Actually, they should play Curtis and Giguere. Right now they have Mario Manningham (who is talented but inconsistent), and a bunch of losers, but that'll never happen of course because it makes too much sense.
     
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    This ought to be good for some regular guffaws in the coming months. It may be time to activate the legendary "Tribute to Tiki Barber" thread:


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    <H1>Tiki Barber plans to unretire, play again in 2011 NFL season</H1>

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    NEW YORK -- Tiki Barber has alerted the NFL that he plans to come out of retirement and play in the 2011 season, sources close to the former New York Giants running back said Tuesday.


    Barber, who sources said has already filed the appropriate paperwork to the league, will become a free agent. The 35-year-old back, who turns 36 in April, retired in 2007. He played 10 seasons, all for the Giants, finishing his career as the franchise's all-time leading rusher.


    After retiring, Barber was hired by NBC to be a correspondent on The Today Show and Football Night In America. He made headlines for being critical of the motivational style of his former coach, Tom Coughlin, and scoffed at former teammate Eli Manning's leadership abilities. The Giants went on to win the Super Bowl in the first season after Barber's retirement.


    Barber's personal and professional life have been in shambles recently. In April 2010, Barber reportedly left his wife of 11 years, Ginny, for 23-year-old Traci Johnson, a former NBC intern. Ginny was eight months pregnant at the time. Soon after, NBC cited its morals clause and terminated Barber's contract, which reportedly paid him more than $300,000 per year.


    In June 2010, the New York Post reported Barber was broke and couldn't pay his divorce settlement with his ex-wife.


    Barber's twin brother, Ronde, recently signed a one-year extension with the Buccaneers, where he's been a safety for 14 seasons.Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/03/08/tiki-barber-unretires/index.html#ixzz1G2QBsPZw
     
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    I guess our boy Tiki has run out of cash to finance his life. He needs the cash. He is a semi panic mode. The his house of cards is about to completely fall, with child support, alimony, showing his white skank girlfriend that he is still a "playa", its going be kind of fun to watch him fail. The affelets never fail to outrage or amuse us.
     
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    I also guess Yahoo was sending birds out advising him that his expert insight on the NFL will no longer be needed.
     
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    Isn't Barber supposed to be one of the smart NFL players? He's well spoken but it seems he's not very bright behind the scenes. I actually had no issue with Barber until I saw him for the prick he really is after he ripped Eli Manning several times. The guy is a no class scumbag.
     

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