2010 NFL Draft

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  1. whiteathlete33

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    Glad to see Scott Sicko change his mind about playing football.

    Scott Sicko changes his mind, joins Cowboys
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 27, 2010 1:14 PM ET
    Perhaps Scott Sicko heard all the criticism.

    The undrafted tight end out of University of New Hampshire, who originally said didn't want to pursue a career in football, has changed his mind. Alex Marves of FOX reports Sicko agreed to terms with the Dallas Cowboys.

    The Cowboys kept talking to Sicko after he initially turned them down and apparently convinced him to play.

    "We are very grateful that the Cowboys have given him this opportunity and he is 100 percent committed," his agent J.R. Rickert said.

    This sudden change of heart seems likely to spark another round of debate, and Sicko is sure to get far more attention over the summer than most undrafted players.

    We hope he's ready for it, and wish him luck.
     
  3. jaxvid

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    Sicko must love to get jerked around. The Cowboys will probably cut him at the first cut after getting to use him as practice field fodder. Either that or he can stick around on the bench hoping to be a WSTD. I don't see the "Blackboys" using many white guys.
     
  4. Van_Slyke_CF

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    Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert have been so gracious as to allow the Steelers three white O-linemen as UDFAs:

    C Bradley Vierling of Vandy, T Kyle Jolly of UNC, and C/G A.J. Trump of Miami.

    They'll be lucky if they've received their meal cards at St. Vincent's College this summer before being cut.
     
  5. toddelle

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    Bears sign both Jake Sharp and Kevin Harris according to NEPatriosdraft.com. Link is found at draft Daddy.
     
  6. Jack Lambert

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    I hate Mike Tomlin and wigger boy Kevin Colbert. They both make me sick. I hope Steeler fans enjoy their crappy coal-black teams for the next few years, and probably beyond.

    Not to mention Hatie Smiff and Angelo for Chicago. Sharp and Harris will be lucky to set foot on a practice field before Hatie pulls the trigger and cuts them.
     
  7. celticdb15

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    Jake has to be smarter than that!
     
  8. JReb1

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    Jake should see what happened to the last White RB that attempted to play for the Bears and Smith. You know the one that looked like a water-boy or something, I don't remember the exact quote.[​IMG]
     
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    One thing that should be taken into consideration is that we did not think Danny Woodhead would make the roster last year and he did.
     
  10. Toby Hillis

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    Jake Sharp's gonna show up for training camp and the Bears coaching staff's going to say "Hey, Brock Forsey!?! Didnt we already cut yo white butt?!"
     
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    That's what I was thinking but I forgot his (Forsey) name. What Lovie said to Brock would've gotten a White coach fired if he said anything even close to that remark. If Jake had any other offers he was foolish to sign with the Bears. Hopefully he can stay healthy and then be able to shine in the preseason and catch another teams attention. Jake definitely has the talent, all he needs is a chance!
     
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    Sorry to double post, internet problems- read below!
    Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
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    A KU DWF has already dismissed Sharp's chances of making the Bears and apparently Sharp's only gotten a tryout guys:
    DW KU FAN

    larryb2: "That's all it is - a tryout. Still a decent chance he sticks with the team until after summer camp is over. As much as I am rooting for Jake - I don't see him making the team over Forte, Taylor, Wolfe (great special teams player), Bell (Bears loved him last year), and Brandon Minor who the Bears picked up and SIGNED yesterday as well. Now if Bell or Wolfe were to get injured, Jake just may beat out Minor and stick as a 4th back. I was pretty upset when the Bears let Brandon Rideau go but it turns out it was the right move. Same thing with Mike Rivera."
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    My take: Let me get this straight: K. Bell's less than 400 yards rushing on 2.8 YPC as a Sr. with a "blazing" 4.74- 40 got him UFA contract w/ the Bears last yr. Sharp's over 400 yards rushing on 4.2 YPC (while hurt) as a Sr. before running a BLAZING 4.37 40 & tying McCluster's top combine shuttle time for RBs of 4.06 (at KU Pro Day) will get Jake only a tryout & cut?

    And add to that, that Sharp had 1,100 AP yards as a junior while only getting the starting job the last 8 games of the season & had a 3 game rushing performance stretch- after he found his grove- of:
    1. 12-103-8.6 YPC-1 TD @ Oklahoma
    2. 13-80-6.2 YPC- 0 TD - Texas Tech
    3. 21-181-8.6 YPC-3 TD- Kansas State

    Matt Forte was a big disappointment last year for the Bears. Fragile Fred used to be a good RB, but is old now and constantly gets hurt. Garrett Wolfe is more undersized than Sharp and can't do anything on special teams that Sharp can't do. Brandon Minor was not more productive than Sharp in the FBS in college, isn't the receiver Jake is and is much slower and less explosive. Sharp knows how to play, if it weren't for his debilitating skin condition- he'd have been drafted and he'd make an NFL team.

    Hey, at least with Kevin Harris, he never showed much production due to caste coaching and injuries and doesn't have freakish measurables like Sharp- so I guess I wouldn't lose sleep if he's cut. Damn those haters! Hatie Smiff!
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    I recall Barry Word being signed by KC after being convicted of cocaine distribution. In the CFL a former biker gang member was signed after being convicted for either manslaughter or 2nd degree murder for a contract killing. He was signed by the Argos when Pinball Clemons was the Argos coach. For those that don't know who Pinball is he is what I would call a "Righteous Negroid"(Born Again Christian). I have joked in the past that teams would hire Atilla the Hun if he could carry the rock.... [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Edited by: white is right
     
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    Yahoo CasteRivals posted a list today of their "All Undrafted team for 2010". As you would expect, virtually all of the players that they deem as snubbed are black supermen who probably, in their minds, should have been drafted instead of those awful white guys. I would normally cut-and-paste the article/list, but it's too odious to soil this good website.
    Besides the obligatory snubbed white QB, PK, and P, their are only 5 whites (out of 22) on the snubbed list, and those are OL and LB. No whites were any good at any of the "affletic" positions, RB, WR, CB, DB, and D-line.
     
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    Disgusting that they didn't list Blair White or Chris McGaha.
     
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    To be fair, Alexander, Barnes, and Hodge were all very good, productive WR's for their college teams, Barnes even setting an NCAA record for receptions. We might take an optimistic view of this in that 6 white receivers were chosen over these uber-athletes, so we've made a small amount of headway.
     
  18. Colonel_Reb

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    I'm also posting this in the Toby Gerhart thread, but since it covers three White athletes, it deserves double posting.

    http://www.stanforddaily.com/2010/04/26/makowsky-three-draft-picks-show-promise/

    Wyndam Makowsky:Three draft picks show promise


    As Saturday's seventh round came to a close, the Cardinal's three
    2010 draftees found themselves not just in the National Football League,
    but also in good situations therein.

    Let's start, as always, with
    Toby Gerhart. Minnesota was a bit of a surprise, as most of the
    pre-draft talk centered on a few places â€" Denver, San Diego and
    Philadelphia â€" with the Vikings rarely being a part of the conversation.

    But
    they should have been, because at first glance, they make quite a bit
    of sense. Adrian Peterson is one of the best running backs in the
    league, but has a violent running style that precludes him from carrying
    an entire load. His valued backup, Chester Taylor, left for the Chicago
    Bears this off-season, and the Vikings had to fill that role.

    Enter
    Gerhart, who instantly gives Minnesota one of the most intimidating
    rushing attacks in football. Take out Peterson, and you have to deal
    with another bruiser; fortunately for Gerhart, Peterson is also enough
    of an all-around speed threat that the holes he will face will be just a
    tad bit wider. Plus, the Vikings offensive line, though at times
    maligned during the latter part of last season, still features one of
    the all-time best pulling guards in Steve Hutchinson, two tackle
    bookends in Bryant McKinnie and Phil Loadholt and a young and developing
    center in John Sullivan. They also added Chris DeGeare, a well-regarded
    and versatile line prospect, in the fifth round of the draft. So
    imagine: Gerhart will get to face defenses broken down from taking on
    Peterson, with a line that can give him the room to operate.

    Naysayers
    will point to Peterson's status as indicative of a limited role for
    Gerhart. But the NFL has, over the past decade, evolved into a two-back
    league â€" few, if any teams feature just one runner. Complementary backs
    abound. Even the two running backs taken in the top 12 picks will not be
    asked to carry an individual load or, frankly, even start. C.J. Spiller
    has Marshawn Lynch and Fred Jackson in Buffalo; Ryan Mathews has Darren
    Sproles in San Diego. Gerhart, Spiller and Mathews all have tremendous
    importance as secondary players, and that's perfectly all right.

    Additionally,
    the fullback question, although nearly dead as is, can finally be put
    to rest. The Vikings traded both their second and third round picks in a
    deep draft in order to move up the 11 spots to pick Gerhart. That type
    of investment is not made in a lead blocker. Head coach Brad Childress's
    press conference was almost humorous â€" he was bombarded with questions
    about whether or not Gerhart would be a fullback, which he continuously
    brushed off as narrow-minded and inaccurate. He even said that Gerhart
    could be lined up outside as a receiver, a statement indicative of the
    flexibility the Vikings see in him.

    Then there's Jim Dray, newly
    of the Arizona Cardinals. Although taken in the seventh round, Dray
    should get an opportunity early to challenge for serious playing time,
    as Arizona does not have a featured tight end, and the quality of its
    depth is precarious.

    Outside of Dray, there are four TEs on the
    roster. Ben Patrick is a young talent who has flashed promise and is
    expected to be the starter. But Patrick has suffered from injuries
    recently and, even when healthy, has not entirely capitalized on his
    opportunities â€" his production has been limited, as seen in his career
    high of 12 receptions in a season. Stephen Spach is apparently
    well-liked by the staff, but he is a bit older and has bounced in and
    out of the league with less than 100 career receiving yards. Anthony
    Becht, a former first-round pick, is in the twilight of his career, and
    Dominique Byrd has failed, repeatedly, to become a legitimate NFL
    player.

    So Dray, who possesses not just exemplary blocking
    abilities, but soft hands, too, finds himself in a place where little is
    certain. He can compete for playing time almost immediately. The
    Cardinals, in turn, have themselves a player who likely would have been
    taken quite a bit earlier had injuries not nagged him throughout his
    collegiate career. Provided that he stays healthy, he gives Arizona a
    talent boost at the tight end position.

    Finally, there is Erik
    Lorig, who went to Tampa Bay as the draft wound down. Lorig is still
    recovering from an off-season surgery and is seen as more of a
    developmental project. But even then, the Buccaneers have an admitted,
    serious issue with their defensive end depth, and head coach Raheem
    Morris was quick to point Lorig out as a guy who could see action on
    both the right and left sides and earn playing time on defense as a
    hustling reserve. Outside of Stylez White starting at RDE, the
    Buccaneers line is still undecided.

    And so Gerhart, Dray and Lorig
    will have their chances, even if the expectations range from immediate
    contributor to long-term prospect. Some draftees find themselves in
    situations where they're buried on a depth chart, with little chance for
    playing time or even making a roster; for the three Cardinal players,
    this is not the case.

    Wyndam Makowsky is going through an
    existential crisis now that he can no longer write about Toby Gerhart.
    Get him some help at makowsky@stanford.edu.
     
  19. backrow

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    Broncos signed Patrick Honeycutt, WR, MTSU
     
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    The same could have been said after Hester and Leonard were drafted. The fact that Childress "was bombarded with questions about whether or not Gerhard would be a fullback" shows that it isn't dead. The Doak Walker winner being seen as a fullback shows just how deep the racism is in virtually all sports writers and DWFs. While black quarterbacks are aggressively recruited and given numerous opportunities to excel and receiveloads of positive publicityfrom the media, the White running back faces an entirely different, negativemillieu. J. B. Cash hit the nail on the head in his new article.
     
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    I totally agree Don. It will take a long time to undo the effects of the Caste System. Although Toby has the best shot to be a starting NFL RB of anyone during the CF website era, I have no faith that the system will treat him any different from the other White backs.
     
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    Jervey and Staley are two guys who were more athletic than Toby and both got screwed.
     
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    Patriots signed Andrew Brewer. This gives them Welker, Edelman, Bryan Anderson, Andrew Brewer, Rob Gronkowski, and Aaron Hernandez as white skill position players.I really believe Brewer or Anderson have a legitimate shot at making the roster. As both are bigger than Sam Aiken who is a black special teams demon, Brandon Tate tore his ACL in his senior season and then came in for one game when the Pats were in London and tore up his other knee. Torry Holt is old at this point so i am not sure how much he has left in the tank. Brewer could be a good outside reciever and Anderson could be a red zone threat because of his size at 6-5. I will give Aiken credit because as i mentioned earlier, he is a good special teams player but all white players are good special teams players too. They have to be because of their lack of "athleticism". They also have Taylor Price who is atleast half white if not more. Edited by: green fire317
     
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    Here is the article

    RapSheet: Northwestern WR Andrew Brewer invited to rookie camp
    "One player invited to tryout at the Pats rookie camp, which extends through the weekend, is Northwestern's Andrew Brewer.

    The 6-3, 215 pound wide receiver had played quarterback but converted to wideout toward the end of his second season with the Wildcats.

    This past season, hauling in passes from Mike Kafka, who was drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles, he led Northwestern in receiving yards (925) and TDs (9). He set a single-seson school record with a 16.2 yards per reception average."

    While Brewer is another QB->WR convert, I think he's of a different breed from Edelman. Brewer is a MUCH larger target and has the potential to be an outside receiver.
     
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