2010 NBA Playoffs

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  1. white lightning

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    I'm looking forward to watching some of the playoffs this year. The Suns open up against Portland tonight. There are alot of good white players on both teams. The Suns are the hottest team in the NBA going into the playoffs. As long as Steve Nash is breathing, they will be a tough matchup. The Dallas vs San Antonio Series is going to be fun to watch as well. I have said for a while that Dirk needs a ring. I'm hoping this is the year they get by the Lakers. They have their hands full with the Spurs though. One game at a time and one series at at time.Edited by: white lightning
     
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    Nowitzki & Ginobli are both looking GREAT tonight.
     
  3. Blue Devils

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    Pau had a good game earlier. He had 19 points, 13 rebounds and 3 blocks.

    Dirk has 32 points, 11-13 FG's and 7 rebounds through three quarters.
     
  4. white lightning

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    Dirk ended up with 36 points in the Mavs win! Nash had 25 points and 9 assists but the Suns lost a close one. That game by Pau Gasol was very nice. I wonder if the Lakers appreciate just how good he is. He takes so much pressure off of Kobe.
     
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    Pau Gasol will get the credit he truly deserves... when he retires. Pau is a Superstar-level player who keeps being bashed by critics that he was a nobody before joining the Lakers. That's how disgusting NBA politics really is, can't let go past reputations.

    If Dirk is to get an NBA title, it has to be Now. This is the strongest Mavs team Dirk has ever played on (better than the 2006 Finals team). If Dirk's teammates step up on a regular, then I see Dallas winning it all.

    Nash has a good team with him. Unlike Dallas or LA, Phoenix has a slim chance of making a deep playoff run. Best of Luck to the Suns.

    We have an interesting playoff picture (especially in the West). My bet in the East is ORLANDO, while out West, it's the LAKERS/MAVS/SUNS. I would love to see a Magic-Mavs Finals.

    Overall, it's quite a shame there's only a handful of notable American whites:

    Kirk Hinrich - Bulls
    Luke Ridnour - Bucks
    Brad Miller - Bulls
    JJ Redick - Magic
    Jason Williams - Magic
    Ryan Anderson - Magic
     
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    As a near life-long Angelino and Lakers fan, no serious fan of the Lakers doesn't appreciate Pau. He is the number 2 player as far as the success of the Lakers goes, even in the minds of the most jaded Lakers fans in LA.
     
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    It could be said that Kobe is "more important" only because he takes more shots, but Pau is the superior performer!
     
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    QUEEN Garnett is suspended for Game 2. PAULA Pierce is such an actress. The Celtics are acting more like GAYtics. I honestly never imagined Garnett stooping this low. He's more childish and immature at age 34 compared to age 19.

    Goes to show how some High Schoolers and One-and-Doners become more childish and immature with age.Edited by: j41181
     
  11. white lightning

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    I'm enjoying the Utah vs Denver game. Getting to see some young guys for Utah step up. The Russian guy weighs 300lbs. What a man child. Hopefully Utah can hang on and get the win to stay in the series. Korver is having a nice game!
     
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    Dirk has to win a title this year. That's the only thing missing in his fantastic career. If he keeps playing the way he did two nights ago it should happen.
     
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    I agree whiteathlete33. Dirk needs a ring.

    What a game by Nash and the Suns tonight. They had 94 points after 3 quarters! A big win and I like the fact that they made a statement. They will not lose this series. Nash had 16 points and made some unbelievable circus shots. Amudsen had a few nice dunks and put on a block party. His athletecism reminds me of C.Anderson.

    The Lakers won to go up 2-0 in a very close game. Kobe played great but Pau Gasol is the motor that makes that team run. With out him, they would have lost. He is a force inside and outside.Edited by: white lightning
     
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    I'm hoping for a Magic/Suns final. Nash is older than Dirk & the clock is ticking for Nash to win a championship. I would be happy if the Bucks or Mavs make the finals too. I don't see the Bucks coming back from 0-2 without Bogut though.
     
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    It would be very sad if either Dirk or Nash fail to win the NBA title come retirement. Dirk had good chances in 2003, 2006 & 2007. Nash had chances in 2003, 2005, 2006, & 2007.

    Pau has nabbed one, despite all credit pointing to Bryant. Compared to Dirk & Nash, Pau will always be overshadowed by Bryant. If Bryant is the team's driver & anchor, Pau is the team's engine and navigator.
     
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    16 assists last night for Steve Nash!
     
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    The Lakers' better finish off OKC, and in no more than 5 games.
     
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    I just have this gut feeling that Dirk and the Mavs are going to make a very deep run in this year's playoffs and my fingers are crossed that they they win the whole thing.
     
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    I sure hope you are correct Guest301. Dirk has to win a title. I hope he doesn't end up like John Stockton: a HOF player without a championship.
     
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    When you mention guys like Stockton above or guys like Dan Marino,Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton, Charles Barkely, Karl Malone, etc...the first thing that people think about is not the great careers they had but none of them won a championship. It's unfair for that to be first thought but that is how it is. I am glad John Elway was able to win two championships at the very end of his career because he would have been the poster child of HOF players who never won a championship.
     
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    Kirk Hinrich had a nice game tonight...27 pts; the Bulls beat the Cavs 108-106...Cavs still up 2-1






    Would really like to see Suns/Magic in Finals...Nash needs a ring! He's having another excellent year at age 36! If not him..then Dirk of course!

    Hated to see Bogut out for the playoffs
     
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    Kirk Hinrich's redemption earns the Bulls a win</font>
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    By Kelly Dwyer

    He didn't seem so important, entering Thursday's Game 3, matched up against the similarly anonymous Anthony Parker(notes). But Kirk Hinrich's(notes) hot shooting and game-changing turn as Chicago's man on the outside showcased just how pivotal a figure the seventh-year guard is. As Hinrich goes, so go the Bulls. And the Bulls went 2-1 on the Cavs with a win, mainly because Hinrich couldn't miss.

    It was a spectacular display. Only clanging three shots in 12 attempts, Hinrich worked off the ball and swung into open areas effortlessly. The hybrid guard made all four of his 3-point attempts, all while crashing the boards (five rebounds) and finding the open man (five assists). Without prodding, he was referred to as the "X-factor" by four different Bulls and Cavaliers following the game.

    Hinrich needed a bit of prodding after the game. He seemed his old self, unimpressed with the attention, feigning an incredulous tone any time a writer tried to insinuate that Thursday's game was any different than any one of his 556 games as a Bull. And that's probably how he has to steel himself. That's likely what keeps him grounded.

    Because Kirk's been around, without leaving the same place. He's never played for another team despite over a half-decade's worth of trade rumors, but you'll have a hard time finding another player in this league that has dealt with as much upheaval as Kirk Hinrich.

    Entering the league as an ostensible replacement for the injured Jay Williams(notes) in 2003, the coach's son walked right into one of the strangest outfits this league had to offer. The Bulls were pegged as an up and comer in his rookie year, based on the supposed veteran leadership of one Jalen Rose(notes) and a twin towers approach featuring Tyson Chandler(notes) and Eddy Curry(notes). Hinrich missed the first five games of that season after a bout of food poisoning, and even though his debut came just two weeks into the season, the up and coming Bulls had more or less devolved into yet another mess on Madison Street.

    A coaching change and roster reset allowed for Hinrich to work as the team's pivotal player in his second year. Though Curry and Chandler were still around, Hinrich had a serious cadre of vets to play alongside, as new coach Scott Skiles led the surprising Bulls to 47 wins in 2004-05, even after an 0-9 start to the season. The 2005-06 season saw another playoff appearance, and 2006-07 allowed Hinrich a career year (16.6 points, 6.3 assists).

    Career seasons come with attention, though, and a bout of trade rumoring before 2007-08 (would Hinrich be involved in a package that would bring Kobe Bryant(notes) to Chicago? did Bryant demand that Hinrich be on any Bulls team he was traded to?) more or less sunk the Bulls before they even had a chance to sail. Skiles flamed out, and by the time last season started, Hinrich was playing for his fifth coach in five years while having to move off the ball because of Derrick Rose's(notes) presence.

    And, really, things haven't been the same. He's had some solid shooting nights and his defense remains as stout as ever, but Hinrich's effectiveness severely tails off when he has to play off the ball. And though he won't admit to it, confidence is a huge issue with the Kansas product.

    Luckily for the Bulls, Hinrich entered Game 3 thinking of himself as a pivotal piece, and he was quite correct in that regard.

    Kirk was "looking to be more aggressive," and while an attitude adjustment in Chicago's simplistic offense is often enough to make a change, the difference in Hinrich's game went well beyond that. His shooting form returned. Hinrich extended well and put his elbow under the ball, improving on the crescent moon style that plagued him in Games 1 and 2, two contests that saw him shoot a combined 6-18.

    Hinrich felt that he "wasn't asserting himself" in the first two games of this series, and credited his teammates for getting him good looks in Game 3, but the fact remains that he had plenty of sound looks at the hoop from just as far away in his first two turns. For whatever reason, the shooting form improved markedly in Game 3, and despite all the talk of "trying to be more assertive," sometimes an elbow under the ball and a pair of squared shoulders are all you need.

    Now, the 6 for 18 - to hear Bulls coach Vinny Del Negro tell it - wasn't too much of a worry.

    "Kirk does a lot of things for us," he said after Game 3. "Stats, for me, can be overblown, but Kirk does a lot of things in terms of intangibles. Kirk has been as consistent a player as we've had in terms of leadership."

    And that consistency would help, I suppose, if Hinrich weren't taking up so many of Chicago's possessions, missing two-thirds of his shots along the way. Hinrich himself admitted that he outright "hadn't contributed" in the first two games of the series, and he'd be right in that regard. Good intentions and sound (if ineffective) defense only go so far.

    You can't help but admire Hinrich's resolve, though, even as he clangs away. No player in this league has seen as much roster changeover as Hinrich since 2003, and he's remained a Bull despite consistent trade rumors that have plagued him (quite literally) since that bout of food poisoning. As it stands now, he's had to move to a position that clearly doesn't suit him, working off the ball, forced into taking shots he's not especially accurate with in an offense that doesn't really play to his strengths.

    This is the norm, though, for the coach's kid. Though his orthodox basketball upbringing barely prepared him for twin towers, GMs assaulting coaches, four-guard lineups and trade rumors involving the self-styled next Michael Jordan, Hinrich has soldiered on.

    And as he goes, so go the Bulls. With the sound defense perking up his terrible offensive stats, Hinrich has been rather average this season, and Chicago's 41-41 record comes as a result. His 27 points on 12 shots on Thursday? It aided Chicago in taking down the team with the best record in the NBA. These aren't co-incidences.

    Kirk won't have any of it. He's looking forward to Game 4 at this point, probably wondering and worrying about what new soap opera this franchise has in store for him. You find it hard to blame the guy.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Kirk-Hinrich-s-redemption-earns-the-Bulls-a-win;_ylt=ArcySKU8X0SBFLQMBBNdsIe8vLYF?urn=nba,236295Edited by: j41181
     
  23. white lightning

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    Well I just got done watching the Mavs lose their 2nd game in a row. Dirk played great but they fell apart in the closing minutes. It's looking really bad for the Mavs. They have to win game 4 or else they will go down 3 games to 1. I hope they can find a way to even the series. The Spurs just play such great team ball. That is what happens when you have the big three play together for all of these years. If only Dirk had some teammates like Duncan does to rely on.
     
  24. j41181

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    Let's face it, Dirk will NEVER win an NBA title with Dallas. Either he leaves the team, or finishes his career empty handed. Simple as that.

    BTW, congratulations to Mark Cuban (Jack@ss) for motivating the Spurs with his "I hate the Spurs" speech. Way to go, Cuban! [​IMG]

    I always respect Duncan, a great and classy player. A true basketball champion. Dirk is by far the most tragic and unfortunate superstar in NBA history.
     
  25. white lightning

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    So what happened to the great K.Butler. He had 2 points. Not much of a supporting cast for Dirk. Nowitzki scored 35 points and got very little help. So depressing. Not giving up on the Mavs yet. They can bounce back if they win game 4. I know they can win game 5 in Dallas but game 4 is the key!
     

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