2010 Cardinals

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  1. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

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    Looks like newly signed Alan Faneca will be starting at LG for the Cardinals. Can it possibly be -- the Cardinals starting two Whites on the offensive line? Stop the presses!

    Faneca has been around a long time but I'll be surprised if he doesn't still have a fair amount left in the tank. He's one of the best of the past 20 years, a perennial Pro Bowler in an era of super over-rated sumos.
     
  2. whiteathlete33

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    Who do you guys think will start at quarterback for the Cardinals? Matt Leinart or Derek Anderson? I'm thinking Anderson will beat Leinart out of the job. With the good offense the Cardinals have Anderson could have a very nice season if he wins the starting job. Anderson had a pretty decent season back in 2007 but really struggled last year with the dismal offense of the Browns.

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  3. backrow

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    from rotoworld, no further comment [​IMG]

    The player rep for OG Deuce Lutui fired back at Ken Whisenhunt Wednesday after the Cardinals' coach criticized Lutui for reporting to late offseason workouts some 60 pounds over his playing weight.

    The agent is kidding himself sticking up for his client's massive weight gain. "He's a hard worker and I have no doubt he will be within the range he reasonably should be when it counts," said agent Ken Harris. "If the club isn't pleased with him, I'm happy to assist them on a possible trade. Otherwise, we should let his play on the field this season speak for itself."
    Source: ESPN.com

    ok, so maybe a little comment, how the hell do you get 60 pounds overweight?!?! offseason is not that long!
     
  4. whiteathlete33

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    He is listed on NFL.com as 338 lbs at 6'4. I'm guessing that is his playing weight from last season. Does that mean he went up to almost 400lbs. That ridiculous. He would have to be eating in excess of 10,000 calories a day to gain that much weight in such a short time.
     
  5. FootballDad

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    I have the answer to the question of how this sumo managed to pack on this much extra weight.....
    [TUBE]37wI12WFzh8[/TUBE]
     
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  7. Freethinker

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    Undrafted wide receiver out of Idaho, Max Komar is having a great preseason thus far. With Anquan Boldin and Jerheme Urban gone the Cards have Fitzgerald and Breaston entrenched as starters. Overrated Early Doucet has been handed the slot roll and Andre Roberts has been drafted to be the 4th. These guys are hardly All Pros. Komar has a good shot of making the roster (in a fair world) and a great chance to at least be practice squad bound.

    Here's an article that is filled with admitted stereotypes but rather fair as well. As they say, any press is good press.

    Slotting a Place in the NFL
     
  8. snow

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    its filled with stereotypes but i like the way he describes a slot receiver

    "Slot receivers have to have slightly extra quickness and explosiveness, McNulty said. They have to ready their hands quickly, because they are working in closer quarters and closer to the line of scrimmage and the ball gets to them faster. They have to be quicker in and out of breaks, and strong enough to get out of the grabs from massive linebackers or safeties."

    Basically, modern slot receivers are runningbacks that receive extended handoffs for the most part, with some longer routes thrown in occasionally. Unfortunately this is usually without the glory ofa number 1/number 2 receiver or a runningback. They have to be quick like a runningback but have great hands catching the ball. DWFs have this image of a slot receiver being this slow guy with great handsthat just goes across the middle and gets the snot knocked out of him every play. With the way guys like Welker are used this is simply not true anymore, slot receivers have to be quick/agilewith great acceleration/initial burstand have the ability to weave in and out of defenders to get yards after the catch.



    and someone better get this memo to dwfs
    "(Slot guys) are at the 6-feet and below,"Â￾ said 6-foot receiver Early Doucet.<NOBR sizset="177" sizcache="58" jQuery1282664711502="38">

    "That's the important part about playing the slot. Size becomes an issue in the role not because
    a wideout can't play elsewhere, receivers coach John McNulty said, but because a smaller guy
    usually has a better skill set to be inside."

    You put a tall athletic guy in the slot and he will look like a possession receiver because he won't
    be as quick to work the inside because of the longer legs (there are a few exceptions). That is
    why it doesn't make any sense to put guys like Eric Decker or Jordy Nelson there (both tall
    guys who fans think of as slot receivers) because you take a guy that can be someone like
    Larry Fitzgerald on the outside and turn him into a guy that just goes across the middle and
    just gets the first down without much yac.

    I mean look at Matt Jones and the routes they had him running in Jacksonville, if Mossdid
    the sameroutes he would look the exact same way. Thats the only part I don't like the article,
    because there are tall white receivers that would do excellent on the outside but guys think
    "Wes Welker". Then there are guys like Jordan Shipley who are just under 6 foot and could do
    well on the outside as well as the slot. The coach in the article stated he thought that Doucet
    could play both but didn't give his opinion on Komar, who looks like he can play both as well.
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  9. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Great post snow. I've made the comparison myself of Wes Welker to Brian Westbrook. Welker could indeed play RB in the NFL. He actually STARRED mostly at RB in H.S if I'm not mistaken.
     
  10. whiteathlete33

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    A bit of good news. ToughJ, I gotta give you props for this one. You predicted it.

    Cardinals WR Max Komar tweeted Friday that he's been informed he'll make Arizona's 53-man roster.
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    The lesser known of the Mad Max duo in Arizona, Komar earned the spot
    by catching 10 balls for 158 yards and a touchdown in the preseason,
    with most of the production coming from Max Hall. Komar may be a
    game-day scratch as a No. 6 receiver, but he's coming a long way as an
    undrafted rookie from Idaho.
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    Caste Football Looks at the 2010 Arizona Cardinals</font>

    This year's Cardinals are only a step or two away from looking like Buddy Ryan's teams from the 90's, or more recently, Denny Green's teams. One of the stalwarts of the caste system, Buddy Ryan had no use for white players on his teams. He purged Ricky Proehl, then the only starting white WR in the NFL at the time. He got worse from there, he kept purging white players from the Cardinals, until veteran QB Dave Krieg was the only white starter on the team. Denny Green was not far behind Buddy, usually only starting a white center in addition to his white QB. Head Coach Ken Whisenhunt appears poised to follow in Green's and Ryan's footsteps, he has done nothing to move Arizona away from predominantly coal black teams.

    The team released QB Matt Leinart, who was supposed to finally get his shot this year with Kurt Warner retiring. Leinart is one of the most hated and reviled figures in the NFL right now. Derek Anderson, the former Cleveland Browns' starting QB, now starts with the Cardinals after he was run out of Cleveland after several bad games in a row, a death sentence for any white QB not named Manning, Brady, Brees, or Rivers. Impressive rookie Max Hall, out of BYU is the second string QB who could take over starting duties sometime this year, and fellow rookie John Skelton out of Fordham is the team's third string QB.

    A major upset on Ken Whisenhunt's team this year is WR Max Komar, an undrafted free agent out of Idaho, who somehow stuck on as the fifth reciever. Komar had a great preseason, which was likely the reason they kept him. A surprise was Komar was the team's punt returner in week one, but due to one subpar performance, he's already been yanked from punt returns, replaced by an athlete with magical hip swivel and a room brightening smile. Komar is a mistake or two away from being waived, as the Cardinals' fans are not used to seeing someone with as light of skin tone as him playing WR for very long, as they've probably had more than enough of overachievers like Jerheme Urban and Lance Long.

    The Cardinals have two white backup tight ends in Stephen Spach, a reliable veteran out of Fresno State, and rookie Jim Dray out of Stanford. If he can avoid injuries, Dray has the potential to be a good tight end in the league one day.

    Hold the presses! Arizona will open the season with two, count 'em two, white offensive line starters. The first time the Cardinals have had more than a white center start on the line in years. An exception was made for future Hall of Famer Alan Faneca to start at left guard. In his 13th year from LSU, the former Steeler has shown that he still has something left in the tank for the Cardinals. Texas grad Lyle Sendlein is the starting center for the Red Birds. Ben Claxton, out of Ole Miss, is the backup center and the only other white lineman on the roster. Mike Leach is used strictly as a long snapper.

    This year, the Cardinals' defense is a total blackout. Not one white made the team, even a backup, after the team released LB Monty Beisel. Whisenhunt has made Buddy Ryan and Denny Green proud, opening the season with 3 white starters, and 12 white players overall. Whisenhunt sure likes to surround himself with white coaches though, as 13 of the 16 assistant coaches are white.

    NUMBER OF WHITE PLAYERS ON 53 MAN ROSTER: 12

    NUMBER OF WHITE STARTERS: 3

    GRADE: F-
     
  12. whiteathlete33

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    I wasn't aware that Proehl was the only starting white receiver at the time. That's pathetic. Things have gotten somewhat better in that case. This year we have Welker, Hartline, Walter, Amendola, and several good slot receivers. Am I missing any white starting receivers???
     
  13. Jack Lambert

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    Yeah, I remember reading that in one of Don's old previews of Arizona about Proehl, so I decided to include it again this year.
     
  14. ToughJ.Riggins

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    I think Collie basically starts in Indy WA33. He's on the field just as much as Garcon. We even had one starting white RB (Peyton Hillis) compared to 31 black ones week 1. The Nation of Islam and Jesse Jackson must be pissed.
     
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    WOW, a Curtis mention...
     
  16. whiteathlete33

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    Komar will be the number 3 receiver now. From Rotoworld:

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    Undrafted rookie Max Komar is expected to take over the Cardinals' No. 3 WR role with Steve Breaston out.
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    Komar has been ahead of third-rounder Andre Roberts since exhibition
    action. Roberts reportedly had a "great week of practice" last week, so
    nothing is written in stone. Either way, it's bad news for Derek
    Anderson that the offense is now relying on unproven rookies behind
    Larry Fitzgerald.
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  17. Borussia

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    Matt Jones, Kevin Curtis, Mike Hass (is he on a practice squad somewhere?)...
    Some tremendous talent out there waiting Arizona.
     
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    Matt Jones was released by the Bengals and is a free agent. It would be nice if he became a QB in the UFL since he seems to have been shunned by the black NFL. Jones has had 2 minor scrapes with the law which has led to his total and complete banishment from the NFL. In contrast, Braylon Edwards of the Jets was just charged with a DUI. According to Wikipedia, "Edwards has oft been in trouble with the law as he has been pulled over
    several times over the last eight years for speeding violations.<sup id="cite_ref-10" ="reference"> </span></span></sup>The most recent of which was in October 2008 when he was pulled over for driving 120mph in a 65mph zone." He was also placed on probation for aggravated assault. Now, he has a charge of DUI, which may be a violation of his probation. If so, this may mean he is going to the pokey. But hey, this imbecile thug was penalized about a quarter of a game for his latest transgression. I guess that's black NFL justice.

    Kevin Curtis is a free agent according to Wikipedia.

    Mike Hass made the unforgivable mistake of winning the Fred Biletnikoff award as a white guy. Big no, no. Can't have that in the black NFL. So, like so many other white WR's, he was banished to the practice squad for several years and tossed out of the black NFL like a cheap, soiled pair of skivvies. Now, he is playing (and actually seeing some field time) for the upstart Omaha Nighthawks of the United Football League. You can watch Hass play on HDNET and on the UFL website. I watched the 1st game online at the UFL website last week. It was very exciting to actually see this football genius play. However, he was only targeted twice by QB, Jeff Garcia. The first pass was a little "off," and Hass (and the CB) slipped on the wet field during the play. Hass later caught a pass on a slant for 26 yards. He has not been with the Nighthawks very long, so I can understand why he was not targeted very much. If he is given a decent opportunity, I have complete confidence that Hass will light up the UFL. He's always open and almost always catches the ball. In contrast, Garcia had 3-4 drops on easy passes to the overrated affletes. Hass' next game is on Saturday at 8-8:30 pm on HDNET. Many sports bars carry HDNET. Again, you can also watch the game online for free. <sup id="cite_ref-2010_Arrest_11-0" ="reference"></span></span></sup>
     
  19. Leonardfan

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    Max Hall gets the start this week. I wish him the best of luck.
     
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    From roto:

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    Larry Fitzgerald has taken issue with ESPN's Ron Jaworski's criticism of Max Hall.
    Jaws said, among other things, of Hall: "You just don't see a skill set that projects to be a consistent NFL quarterback." Fitz said on KTAR radio in Phoenix that it's "far too early to write (Hall) off" and that "the more playing time he gets, the better he's going to be." Coach Ken Whisenhunt has yet to announce whether it will be Hall or Derek Anderson that starts in Week 9.
    Source: ESPN's NFC West Blog
     
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    Derek Anderson is back as the starter for now. I think he gives them the best chance to win but Hall may eventually turn out to be a better quarterback than Derek.
     
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    Kevin Curtis free agent. Arizona has lots of talent this year. Need to up the push.
     
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  24. whiteathlete33

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    From Rotoworld:

    Cardinals waived WR Max Komar.
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    move opens up a spot for RB Alfonso Smith. Komar was unable to
    capitalize on some early season opportunities, and has been surpassed by
    WR Andre Roberts on the depth chart.
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    Did anyone see the Derek Anderson interview after the game? They were showing a piece of it on Sportscenter and the reporter kept on asking Anderson why he was laughing at the end of the game with his team down by so many points. Anderson got very upset and refused to answer the question. The reporter kept egging him on. Some of these reporters are just plain ridiculous.
     

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