2009 Pittsburgh Steelers

Discussion in 'Pittsburgh Steelers' started by Leonardfan, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. Jack Lambert

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    The Steelers don't deserve the playoffs, period. The Steelers pass defense seems to be getting worse by the week. They stay in every game with Big Ben leading them, but the inept and horrible secondary lets the offense down in the end. Who knows how long Ben will be around with the horrible sumo line he is given to work with year after year.
     
  2. Don Wassall

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    The Steelers havepulled off the dubious achievement of losing to both the Chiefs and Raiders in a four week period. I didn't see much of the game but it was nice to see Pittsburgh native Bruce Gradkowski, who couldn't start for the University of Pittsburgh, lead his team to the win.
     
  3. Bart

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    I read the comments made by the dumb A$$ affletes. Idiots. I can't stand to see him on the field with those clowns. He deserves better.
     
  4. Van_Slyke_CF

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    He does deserve better, Bart, but I can't see it after this year either, with many key players from the Cowher era aging quickly, and Mike Tomlin and[​IMG]Kevin Colbert running the show.
     
  5. Van_Slyke_CF

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    Mike Tomlin sees the season slipping away, so his big idea for changes is to replace two crappy black CBs with two others, use Limas Sweed more at WR because Hines Ward has a hamstring problem [​IMG], and resign a washed-up black WR for more depth on the roster.

    Oh, I'm sure it will work!

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09341/1019081-66.stmEdited by: Van_Slyke_CF
     
  6. guest301

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    Lots of DWF Steeler fans in my neck of the woods. I am enjoying watching them crash and burn except for Big Ben.
     
  7. Leonardfan

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    I was a big Gradkowski fan when he was at Toledo. I remember in 2006 when he was drafted the Steelers said they were going to draft him but ended up drafting a quotaback Omar Jacobs. It was great seeing Bruce get his revenge.
     
  8. qj

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    The Steelers have lost at least 3 games this year because certain players were unable to catch the football when it really counted. These players all had the same color of skin. I think we can all probably figure out which color that is.
     
  9. Van_Slyke_CF

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    Tyler Palko gets the heave-ho from the 53-man roster after a couple of weeks because the multi-millionaire pillar of the community, Charlie Batch, is nearly finished with his miraculous recovery from a fractured wrist.

    I feel so confident about the Steelers' future with afflete Dennis Dixon and seven-figures welfare recipient Charlie Batch backing up Big Ben.

    How would the DWFs respond to life without Big Ben?

    Look at Tomlin's third season-no Aaron Smith and Troy Polamalu and the defense ain't so hot anymore.

    Crappy blacks at the other DB spots and Tomlin is going to replace them with two non-descript rookies just...just because.

    Casey "A Butter Biscuit From 380" Hampton can't stay on the field for more than a couple of plays at a time.

    James Farrior is starting to show his age.

    Lamar Woodley doesn't look half as good this year.

    Lawrence Timmons-Tomlin's first draft pick and supposedly a "Derrick Brooks-clone"-is not playing well.

    I'll give James Harrison credit where it is due and say he has a helluva job making up for some of the deficiencies of the other LBs.

    Last year they won in spite of their O-line. This year they're losing more frequently in part because of it.

    Still haven't solved the FB problem.

    At least Rashard Mendenhall is producing of late.

    Tomlin and Colbert do seem to have drafted a talented WR in Mike Wallace, but what about just about all of their other draftees the past 3 years? Few players and a lot of flops so far, it seems. We'll really know for sure next season.

    Aaron Jones...dang this keyboard...Darryl Sims...still can't get it right...Ziggy Hood is supposed to get more PT the rest of the year. I can't wait! I hope I'm wrong, but I bet he'll do little for the Steelers the next few years.

    Sorry for the rambling, just venting a little.

    A prediction: The team finishes out of the playoffs and struggles early in 2010. Then an increasing number of fans turn on Tomlin and some of his underachieving players, but years will be lost as the franchise doggedly maintains that Tomlin is their man, and he and Kevin Colbert[​IMG] can draft and build a team without Bill Cowher, Ken Whisenhunt, Russ Grimm et al.Edited by: Van_Slyke_CF
     
  10. Jack Lambert

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    So much for the "hell" Mike Tomlin wanted to unleash. The sinking Steelers are about to Lise their fifth straight against the hapless Browns, 13-9. The Steelers are mo on a five game skid, which includes losses to the Chiefs, Raiders, and the Browns. The sumo domiated line couldn't keep Ben upright. The defense can't tackle to save their lives. The team is going in the tank now, they're done.
     
  11. dwid

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    "I feel so confident about the Steelers' future with afflete Dennis Dixon and seven-figures welfare recipient Charlie Batch backing up Big Ben. "

    lol, to be more specific, more like disability check recipient, because he is never healthy
     
  12. WHITE NOISE

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    Charlie Bioch breaks bones if he ties his shoes too tight. I am so pleased with the performance of the Steelers. I think Tomlin is a fake that got Rooney Ruled into an affirmative action position. His only success came in the wake of Bill Cower and now the team is spoiling under ineptitude.

    The Steelers,what better name could there be for a team full of negros? Perhaps the Katrinas, or the Absentee fathers, or the...
     
  13. FootballDad

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    I know, the Pittsburgh NWA's...
     
  14. referendum

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    If there is to be a general housecleaning at the end of the year, how about the O-line. It must be one of the NFL's worst, and presents a chance for more white starters, just like Buffalo, Miami and Atlanta went much whiter after a housecleaning. But, this is Pittsburg we are talking about, so I won't count on it.
     
  15. Don Wassall

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    I'm glad to see Tomlin get knocked down a few pegs. More than a few pegs actually. Things came too easy for him his first two seasons, he was too smug. He had a prolonged honeymoon but now it's over, with the fans and with the team's players. And with the organization run by Rooney Rule fanatics, they may find the rebuilding process very frustrating.
     
  16. Thrashen

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    For whatever reason, ESPN was all but rejoicing at the Steelers' woes this season. The nut-hugger commenting on the clips from the Steelers-Browns game seemed ecstatic that they lost again"¦.and kept repeating how Hines Ward was "in tears in the tunnel" after the game.

    Ward comes off as the "universal nice guy,"Â but we all know better. His infinite bitching about not being a first round pick out of Georgia was standard procedure during every single one of his interviews for years. He wouldn't have been drafted at all, if he were white. There have been other moronic and unnecessary comments made by Ward (always during a bitch session with the media).

    It's nice to see that idiotic, permanent smile he wears after every play being replaced by a sad face streaming millionaire tears.
     
  17. green fire317

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    i am looking forward to the Packers game in a couple of weeks. Everyone keeps criticizing the Packers o-line why not the Steelers.Edited by: green fire317
     
  18. TwentyTwo

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    The Steelers D is just not the same w/o stud D-Lineman Aaron Smith & DB-Polamalu....
     
  19. Van_Slyke_CF

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    One thing is for sure: We won't hear about teams looking for the next Mike Tomlin after this season's Super Bowl.
     
  20. Don Wassall

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    Only the most brain dead of DWFs would be unable to instantlyknow the race of the woman arrested even if they had no clue who James Harrison is:


    <DIV ="story_line" _counted="undefined">Mother of Steelers' James Harrison charged in Ohio brawl
    <DIV ="story_lastupdate">Friday, December 11, 2009
    <DIV ="story_byline">The Associated Press
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    AKRON, Ohio -- Police in Ohio say the mother of Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison has been charged with assault following a brawl at a game-watching party in a community hall.
    Akron police say 62-year-old Mildred Harrison was one of three people cited after the fight at a Veterans of Foreign Wars post Thursday.
    Police say it's not clear why the party turned violent about 10 p.m., during Cleveland's 13-6 upset of division foe Pittsburgh.
    Victims have told police they were pushed, punched and struck with beer bottles.
    Harrison is due in Akron Municipal Court on Thursday. She declined to comment to the Akron Beacon-Journal when reached by telephone at her Akron home Friday.
    James Harrison was the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year in 2008.
    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09345/1020421-100.stm#ixzz0ZVdIWFEk
    Edited by: Don Wassall
     
  21. DixieDestroyer

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    LOL...vintage TNB!
     
  22. foobar75

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    Just blacks being black, and doing their "thang". No surprises here.
     
  23. Van_Slyke_CF

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    I'm confused. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette writer Ed Bouchette was asked in a Q&A on Dec. 10 if the advancing age of the Steelers' defense is at least partially responsible for their sudden downfall. His response:

    "This seems to be a popular, simplistic, wrongheaded theory. But the most criticized area of this team is cornerback, and there is no starter there older than 29, including William Gay, 24. James Harrison, 31, is still playing in top form. Many point to James Farrior, 34, but I do not believe he's playing poorly, either. Lawrence Timmons is only 23 and in his first year as a starter, LaMarr Woodley only 25 and in his second. I think they do miss one old guy, defensive end Aaron Smith, 33."

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09344/1019951-367.stm

    But in an article today, he says:

    "This team for this era has hit the wall. The Steelers squeezed as much as they could out of their talent during this era with their two Super Bowl victories under two different head coaches. The astonishing part of it is few saw this collapse coming as the T-shirts cranked out "Seventh Heaven" predictions for their next Lombardi Trophy soon after the parade for No. 6 ended.

    While there is rampant disgust with what has happened over the past five games, this era, this decade that is coming to a fast close, should be celebrated. It will be regarded as the second-best decade in Steelers history.

    Now comes the tough part -- what to do about the early part of the next decade. They can hardly blow things up, and that is not the Steelers' style, anyway. They cannot and should not purge the roster or the coaching staff, but changes need to be made and more drastic ones than those made to the lineup by coach Mike Tomlin in Cleveland Thursday night.

    Here are the ages next year of some starting defenders: Casey Hampton, 33; Brett Keisel, 32; Aaron Smith, 34; James Farrior, 35; James Harrison, 32; Ike Taylor, 30; Ryan Clark, 31. And the ages of their top replacements: Tyrone Carter, 34; Deshea Townsend, 35; Travis Kirschke, 36; Chris Hoke, 34; Nick Eason, 30.

    Even if all were playing at their top level, those ages would be cause for concern. The problem is the decline in play on defense combined with their getting old. Another year would not make the same group a better defense than it has been this season. The other problem is there are few replacements on the roster.

    They have no young, upcoming linebackers behind the starters and only Ziggy Hood in the defensive line. They drafted two cornerbacks in the third and fifth rounds this season and have been reluctant to use or even dress one of them in the face of poor play at cornerback much of the season. Ryan Mundy is their only young safety who could possibly compete to start."

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09347/1020571-66.stm

    I've said repeatedly on CF that the defense is getting old in critical spots on the D-line and at LB, including the key backups on the line.

    Bringing in Ziggy Hood has meant nothing thus far for the D-line, Lawrence Timmons stil has not played anywhere near expectations at LB-and he was a guy Tomlin desperately wanted.

    LaMarr Woodley has been very good at times, but at others I wonder what he's doing, especially against the run.

    James Farrior IS getting old quickly, regardless of Bouchette's assertion that he's played well this year.

    James Harrison will be 32 next year and he and Woodley don't seem to perform as well with Aaron Smith out of the lineup.

    Bouchette contends that the secondary is not old so there must be a different explanation for their implosion. Polamalu is out and can't cover up for the deficiencies of the others. Bryant McFadden was O.K. and was lost to the Cardinals in the offseason. Deshea Townsend got old. Ike Taylor was O.K., but hasn't performed well this year at all. Nobody ever said William Gay was going to be good, and being only 24 has nothing to do with it at CB.

    Furthermore, Bouchette is living in La-La Land if he thinks Ryan Mundy should get a chance a start. Where was the appropriate level of criticism from other sources besides Caste Football for Mundy's pathetic performance against the Raiders? It wasn't simply that he gave up the game-winning TD. His god-awful tackling on the final drive-leading with his head-resulted in Gay's concussion(which brought Burnette in the game to drop an easy INT), and a 15-yard penalty which led directly to the red zone opportunity for the Raiders.

    Looking just at the defense, Tomlin and Colbert have used for three seasons a championship-caliber bunch developed by Bill Cowher and his staff and have not drafted or developed the necessary replacements by any stretch of the imagination.

    Tomlin will continue to run the team into the ground while the front office and the DWFs continue to plead for time because he's a HOF-level coach in the making.

    My arse.
     
  24. Don Wassall

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    Nice job Van Slyke of catching Bouchette blatantly contradicting himself. I've never liked him as he's always been a pimp for theparty line of the organization's higher ups and is also a caste system whore. Heplayed a prominent role inthe orchestrated discrediting of Danny Farmer in 2000 when Bill Cowher and some of the team's key black players rejected Farmer, one of the most disgusting things I've watched take place in the NFL, not that Farmer, a potential superstarwide receiver,was treated any better anywhere else.

    They certainly miss Polamalu, but the loss of Aaron Smith may have been just as huge. Aaron Smith??? Who dat? Is there another NFLplayer of star caliberas obscure as Smith? He should have been named to many Pro Bowls, but instead immobile sumo Casey Hampton -- who isn't even as good as his White backup, Chris Hoke -- gets all the honors and accolades while the highly effective and consistent Smithhas beenrituallyignored, with just one Pro Bowl appearance as an alternate.Edited by: Don Wassall
     
  25. whiteathlete33

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    I think it has been a similiar situation in the late 90's and early this decade with sumo after sumo going to the Pro Bowl on the offensive line. Lately whites have been getting some respect with guys like Hutchinson making Pro Bowls.
     

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