2009 NCAA Tourney

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Jimmy Chitwood said:
for the second game in a row, Kansas' Cole Aldrich completely owned the paint!
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stat line for the Jayhawk win today: 13 points (on 6-12 shooting), 20 rebounds, 10 blocked shots. yes, he had a Triple Double.
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in game 1 against North Dakota State, Aldrich scored 23 points (on 9-12 shooting, including 8 dunks), had 13 rebounds, and 2 blocks.
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if Kansas can keep winning, the big white man is making a case to be NCAA Tourney MVP.
Cole Aldrich is the man!
Triple Double baby!

Kansas, Syracuse, and Arizona have all advanced!

Eric Devendorf is another white dude who is just red hot!

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Way to go Alderich. I totally forgot about Kansas. So far so good for alot of our teams. Did you guys see Brockman tearing it up today as well? There are so many good white forwards and centers in the ncaa. Hopefully they will get to start at the next level. Edited by: white lightning
 

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j41181 said:
Jimmy Chitwood said:
for the second game in a row, Kansas' Cole Aldrich completely owned the paint!
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stat line for the Jayhawk win today: 13 points (on 6-12 shooting), 20 rebounds, 10 blocked shots. yes, he had a Triple Double.
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in game 1 against North Dakota State, Aldrich scored 23 points (on 9-12 shooting, including 8 dunks), had 13 rebounds, and 2 blocks.
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if Kansas can keep winning, the big white man is making a case to be NCAA Tourney MVP.
Cole Aldrich is the man!
Triple Double baby!

Kansas, Syracuse, and Arizona have all advanced!

Eric Devendorf is another white dude who is just red hot!


Amazing statistics being put up by Cole Aldrich so far. 10 blocked shots, who says white men can't jump! It's hard to believe that Cole was riding the bench last year for the Jayhawks.
 

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The Hock said:
Ten blocked shots. That's crazy. What's the tournament record for a game?


I don't know what the record is but this kind of triple double is very unusual. Usually a triple double consists of double figure points, rebounds and assists. Having double figure blocked shots in a game is almost unheard of. Thats a Wilt Chamberlain kind of number put out by Cole Aldrich.
 

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The Hock said:
Ten blocked shots. That's crazy. What's the tournament record for a game?


I don't know what the record is but this kind of triple double is very unusual. Usually a triple double consists of double figure points, rebounds and assists. Having double figure blocked shots in a game is almost unheard of. Thats a Wilt Chamberlain kind of number put out by Cole Aldrich.
That should gain him more respect from now on. The guy is freakish athlete. They need to cut the crap that white men, especially tall whites (6'10+) can't jump. Well they can, and maybe even better than most blacks.
 

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man, i can't remember the last time Duke played so poorly... other than Kyle Singler, they looked awful. and even Singler struggled to put the ball in the basket. and once again, we see Gerald Henderson and Nolan Smith disappear in a big game. 'Nova's defense ate 'em up.


Purdue lost, but Robbie Hummel was the best player on the floor. it's just a shame he didn't get any help.
 

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Gerald Henderson was a no show and Nolan Smith has never done anything at Duke and thats not a overstatement in the least. As a Duke fan I am tired or great regular seasons and relatively early exits from the tourney. As great as Coach K is , some of the blame falls on him. Duke is becoming a team that can't handle the pressure and expectations. Toughen up.
 

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I guess we can just hope for the best with regard to Gonzaga and Syracuse. Another awful tournament for our people, though it might not be quite bad as last year's final 4.
 

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Duke played like crap last night
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Henderson and Scheyer shot 4-32 from the field and as a team Duke shot 26.7%
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Gonzaga & Syracuse are probably the most white friendly teams left but if they lose I'll probably end up rooting for Kansas or UNC. I like Cole Aldrich and Tyler Hansbrough. It would be nice to see Hansbrough win a championship in his last year.
 

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a couple of very complimentary articles regarding Josh Heytvelt and Micah Downs.


Heytvelt and Hansbrough meet again.
MEMPHIS -- When Gonzaga senior Josh Heytvelt played North Carolina's Tyler Hansbrough the first time, it seemed that Heytvelt was the player on his way to earning multiple All-America honors.


Zags' Micah Downs long strange journey
<H1>Zags' Micah Downs long strange journey</H1>
It's been rocky road for Zags senior Micah Downs. After attending seven high schools in three states and cutting off ties to his father, he found a safe landing spot in college basketball.
By Bud Withers


MEMPHIS â€â€￾ All over, they're going to be watching this succulent North Carolina-Gonzaga matchup tonight. In Charlotte and Greensboro and Chapel Hill, and in Spokane and Seattle.


And in Auburn, where every day, it becomes a little longer since Micah Downs has spoken with his family.


The void must be piercing.


He's a Gonzaga senior now, and two weeks ago, at the team banquet, assistant coach Tommy Lloyd got up to do a routine introduction of a departing player. But there was never anything routine about Downs.


Jokingly, Lloyd said something about not always being sure he wanted to see Downs hang around long enough to become a senior. Then he turned serious and choked up.


Downs' story does that, it catches throats and shakes heads and riles passion. His is a tale of a basketball vagabond, roaming seven high schools and two colleges, searching for ... for something he never found until he got to Gonzaga. And as much as the Zags should get credit for his soft landing, no doubt part of it owed simply to the fact he was running out of places to go.


People in Downs' past tell a story of an immature kid controlled by an involved father that saw great things in a lean, lanky youth who could jump explosively, shoot, pass and had a natural feel for the game. In four years, Downs attended seven high schools.


They tell stories of paternal battles with coaches and fans. They tell a story with all sorts of team and personal and family implications, like the four chilling words uttered by John Thatcher, one of his prep coaches in Montana:


"His teammates hated him."


In Auburn, Steven Downs, his father answers the phone and talks briefly.


"What's a parent to do?" he says plaintively. "It's pretty hard, man."


When Micah Downs was a senior at Juanita, his seventh high school, Steven Downs, referring to the multiple moves, told The Times, "Blame me. We moved because I needed work and because we had family issues with my folks."


The family lived in Eastern Washington when Micah was in grade school, spent some time in Missouri, and then moved to Las Vegas, where he attended two high schools his freshman year.


His sophomore year, he was at Butte (Mont.) High School, where he played for Thatcher.


"I asked him to leave when he was a sophomore," said Thatcher. "He didn't get along with the kids. I'm not going to blame him. His dad was very difficult when he was around him. He didn't get a chance to be a kid and to be a good athlete.


"He refused to get into our weight program. I said, 'Son, it's not going to work out. You've got to go somewhere else.'


"The problem, the dad even said to me a couple of times, 'Micah's going to sign with the NBA out of high school.' Right then and there, it was pretty noticeable it was going to be a real issue."


By the time he was a junior, Downs was at Bothell High. Without being specific, coach Ron Bollinger acknowledges there was difficulty with Steven Downs and says of Micah, "He's a good kid and I wish him the best. He had a hard circumstance with the family moving all the time and expectations placed on him that were unrealistic."


As a Juanita senior, Downs told The Times he planned to go straight to the NBA. That was a season with some issues, including a two-game suspension for making an offensive gesture to an official during a game.


"That was something me and my dad talked about," Downs says today, referring to the NBA. "He was kind of pushing it.


"That was a time when I was kind of vulnerable to all kinds of people getting in my ear about things."


Kansas coach Bill Self helped talk the Downs family out of that, and Micah headed for KU. He lasted only a few months.


"I didn't fit very well with coach Self," Downs says. "Also, I probably didn't give it the greatest opportunity. I didn't trust anybody."


He called Gonzaga, which had recruited him hard the first time. Lloyd was the conduit. Perhaps it was something of a marriage of desperation, but it worked.


Lloyd stressed to him that he was at a good place, and now it was all about looking forward. To be sure, there were bumps, but for the first time, Downs soldiered through them.


He came in at the midpoint of the 2006-07 season, and Lloyd wondered aloud at the banquet what could have been if Downs had redshirted that season.


"I'd love to have you an extra year," Lloyd said, smiling. "But when I first started working with you, there were days when I wouldn't have thought that."


They say Downs has a girlfriend, Natanya, who is wonderful for him. He speaks glowingly about his years in Spokane, saying, "If I could have it to do all over again, I would have chosen Gonzaga in the first place."


Truth be told, it wasn't seamless on the floor. Downs had a tendency to take shots out of the offense and spent periods in and out of the starting lineup. He wondered whether he was being treated fairly when it happened a year ago.


But his body language hasn't betrayed any inner struggles. On his way to averaging 9.5 points this season, he hasn't sassed referees or mouthed off to coaches.


And 18 days ago, there he was at a dais in Las Vegas, nets hanging around his neck, the most valuable player of the West Coast Conference tournament. Gonzaga coach Mark Few was rapturous in describing how Downs had been rewarded for finally trusting, for sticking something out.


While he was doing that, he broke it off with his family. He says it has been almost a year since they spoke. Others say it's longer.


"It's something I made a decision on," Micah Downs says. "Someday if things could change and work out for the better, that'd be great."


In Auburn, Steven Downs says he wants to talk, but only in person. He's been ripped in print too many times. A few days later, he changes his mind, declining an interview.


"I've decided to take the high road," says his voice message. "I wish the best for Mr. Thatcher. I'm sorry he feels the way he does. I wish the best for him and his future.


"The same with Micah."


sometimes it helps to remember these young men have lives off the court. best of luck to them tonight against UNC!
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Don't forget Arizona tonight, Chase Budinger.
 

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Another Bad day for white-friendly teams:

Arizona and Syracuse have bitten the dust.
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Arizona has a great white player in Chase Budinger... but white friendly?


i'm thinking that label certainly wouldn't apply. not for the past decade or so, at least.
 

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Jimmy Chitwood said:
Arizona has a great white player in Chase Budinger... but white friendly?


i'm thinking that label certainly wouldn't apply. not for the past decade or so, at least.
I can say the same for North Carolina (just Hansbrough) and Kansas (just Aldrich), not white friendly either.

Syracuse has only one notable white, Eric Devendorf.

I somehow use the term because of the elevated game and status of these players.
 

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Kansas actually has a tradition of playing a lot of white players. and this year they often have three whites on the court at a time (Aldrich, Brady Morningstar, and Tyrell Reed). so, i'd say they were more white friendly than most.


Brady Morningstar just made a steal and dunked on a negro in the open court!
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you're right about North Carolina. other than Hansbrough, no other whites are featured. hopefully that will change next year with Zeller coming back healthy and the Wear twins arriving on campus.


Syracuse has typically been non-white, but this year three white men see a lot of time, including arguably the best leaper on the team Orangenat (sp?) and the two best shooters in Devendorf and Andy Rautins. but as you say, they're done regardless.
 

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early on, Heytvelt and Downs are playing well for Gonzaga. but Pargo is getting thoroughly out-played by UNC's Lawson.
 

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Jimmy Chitwood said:
early on, Heytvelt and Downs are playing well for Gonzaga. but Pargo is getting thoroughly out-played by UNC's Lawson.
Kansas should win (2 white regulars, 1 white superstar).

The UNC-Gonzaga game is up for grabs. Hansbrough is an NCAA legend, while Gonzaga has 3 white starters. My best wishes to both Teams.
 

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If I rememver right UNC also has Bobby Frasor, who sees the court. Tonight, UNC had Hansbrough, Frsor, and Zeller out on the court together for a little bit. They didn't show much of the game where I live, but I know I saw them out on the court together. UNC had a majority of white players on the floor tonight.

Kansas lost to nearly all-black Michigan St.
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Jack Lambert said:
If I rememver right UNC also has Bobby Frasor, who sees the court. Tonight, UNC had Hansbrough, Frsor, and Zeller out on the court together for a little bit. They didn't show much of the game where I live, but I know I saw them out on the court together. UNC had a majority of white players on the floor tonight.

Kansas lost to nearly all-black Michigan St.
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Goran Suton played great though against Kansas. He had 20 points, making him easily the best player.

Michigan State beats Louisville!!!!
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Goran Suton was brilliant again:

19 points (7-15 FG's, 3-5 3pt's, 2-4 FT's)
10 rebounds
4 assists
1 steal
1 block

Take that Obama!!!!
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Nice, we have two teams in the Final Four whose best players are white, and they won't be playing each other in the semis. So, we can hope for a Michigan State - UNC final.

Also, although it's good to see no black coaches in the Final 4, the one I hate the most (Calhoun) is still there. I'll be rooting against UConn all the way.
 
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j41181 said:
Jack Lambert said:
If I rememver right UNC also has Bobby Frasor, who sees the court. Tonight, UNC had Hansbrough, Frsor, and Zeller out on the court together for a little bit. They didn't show much of the game where I live, but I know I saw them out on the court together. UNC had a majority of white players on the floor tonight.

Kansas lost to nearly all-black Michigan St.
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Goran Suton played great though against Kansas. He had 20 points, making him easily the best player.

Michigan State beats Louisville!!!!
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Goran Suton was brilliant again:

19 points (7-15 FG's, 3-5 3pt's, 2-4 FT's)
10 rebounds
4 assists
1 steal
1 block

Take that Obama!!!!
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Suton was unconscious in the first half. He played the middle against the full court press and zone to perfection.

At one point Gus Johnson said, "Suton is a great..." and it sounded like he was going to say "athlete" then kind of paused and said "thinker." He just couldn't bring himself to calling Suton a great athlete.
 
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