2008 Redskins

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  1. Don Wassall

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    It remains to be seen if Jim Zorn is a competent NFL head coach -- the indications from the Redskins' regular season opening game were not comforting -- but he is clearly a disciple of the Caste System.


    The '08 Redskins have even fewer white players than the rosters compiled by Joe Gibbs in his second coaching stint with the franchise.


    The best known paleface on the team is tight end Chris Cooley, who is one of the best and most consistent producers at his position. Last year Cooley had career bests in yards (786) and TDs (8).


    Todd Yoder, the one-time ace wideout from Vanderbilt who had to balloon up in size to play in the NFL, is a backup TE.


    13-year veteran Pete Kendall is the starting left guard. Casey Rabach out of Wisconsin is the center.


    Long-time starting tackle Jon Jansen has for some reason been demoted to backup. Long-time Jet Jason Fabini, Northern Iowa's Chad Rinehart, and Justin Geisinger are also backup linemen.


    After black starting quarterback Jason Campbell was injured in the latter part of the '07 season, Todd Collins took over and led what had been a struggling team into the playoffs. It was only the second time in his 14 year career that Collins had garnered regular playing time and he played almost flawlessly. In many cities this would be cause for a "quarterback controversy," but since Campbell is black and was drafted in the first round he seems destined to get quite a bit more time as the starter before he is demoted if found to be lacking what it takes.


    Rookie Colt Brennan is Washington's third quarterback, and he may end up as the starter down the road if Campbell continues to underachieve.


    White defensive players consist of one, strong safety Reed Doughty, who became the starter after the death of last year of Sean Taylor.


    NUMBER OF WHITE STARTERS: 4


    APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF WHITE PLAYERS ON 53 MAN ROSTER: 14


    GRADE: F
     
  2. Liverlips

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    Should be 6 white starters by the end of the year. Campbell will be injured or benched as even drunk white fans have some limits.

    Heyer, the black sumo who replaced Jansen on the basis of proper pigmentation, is a softy who will lose his job or be injured by some D-lineman blowing by him.
     
  3. itsme

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    Doughty missed todays game due sickness, his replacement(Horton) had 2 INT's and 1 fumble recovery.

    I think we all know what that means. [​IMG]
     
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    That's really bad news. For everyone involved, it'll be a no-brainer to replace him. Dammit, that sucks.
     
  5. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Well this one wouldn't be completely "ridiculous" like when the Bills replaced Jim Leonhard with the black safety after his injury when Leonhard had outplayed the black backup statistically.
     
  6. backrow

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    from rotoworld:

    Redskins SS Reed Doughty sat out Week 2 with the stomach flu.

    His replacement, rookie Chris Horton, made the Saints sick to their stomach with two interceptions and a fumble recovery in a performance described by Washington Post beat writer Jason LaCanfora as "unreal". Doughty may remain the starter, but Horton should gain significant playing time.
     
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    Yeah you are not supposed to lose your starting job to injury based on one game. Hopefully they will keep using Doughty. Any player can have one great game, lets hope Doughty has a great one in the next. [​IMG]
     
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    And Campbell's one good game will likely carry him through several lame games and keep Collins & Brennan comfy on the bench.
     
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    Like I said, starter for the next 2 years, minimum.
     
  10. backrow

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    maybe, but not yet. Defensive Coordinator is standing by Reed, for now. they will try and work Horton into DB rotation more though.
     
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    Nevada was talking about Jason Campbell not Doughty. Hopefully Doughty makes some big plays this week, he has a lot of talent. You need to be phenomenal to keep your job as a safety if you are white.
     
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    Doughty got burned today on a deep ball. You know what that means - to the bench this year and probably out of the NFL within a year or two!
     
  13. Thrashen

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    The Redskins win again. Ahh, let the Campbell sniffing begin.
     
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    As a Redskin fan and an Alabama fan, I can tell you that the same old excuse was repeated often about Campbell when he was at Auburn; "wel... give him a break he's had to learn a new system..." Meanwhile, scores of white quarterbacks continue to get new coordinators and learn new systems - and continue to perform.

    Every single year at Auburn they had to dumb-down the offensive scheme to accomodate him. He constantly under-acheived while at AU and this was when he had the nation's best TWO runningbacks, one of the nation's best o-lines and the nation's best defense. PLUS - he was at Auburn while Alabama was on probation, so AU got the benefit of recruits (better players to surround him with)...still, he underachieved and was a constant object of scorn among Auburn fans.

    To say Alabama fans (and most Auburn fans) were "shocked" when the Redskins traded UP to get him in the draft would be the understatement of the century.
     
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    Doughty finally demoted [​IMG]

    the defense was clearly too white [​IMG]
     
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    yeah Redskins must have been tired of al of their whiteys on defense.
     
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    Gotta give credit where it's due. Campbell hasn't thrown an INT in four games, with 4 TD. He has become a 'game manager,' but I doubt you'll hear him referred to as such.
     
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    More likely they will invent something for him. Jason Campbell isagreat field general, or master technician.
     
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    Campbell almost had 3 passing TDs today though which is impressive. Campbell had two TD plays called back in a row because of penalties from the stupid offensive center that did not help the player score in any way. Campbell appears to be picking up the slack for black QBs for the big-time failures of Jackson and Young. [​IMG] Campbell is a good game manager, but only a solid stat player.

    I was mad about that called back TD, because one was to my fantasy player Randell El, filling in this week for Wes Welker. I also picked up Kevin Curtis in my league, but he is still limited until next week.
     
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    It's really laughable to watch this ridiculous Redskins team roll to 3 wins in a row, culminating in an upset over the Cowboys in Dallas. Sorry, but I just don't buy that an offense with Jason Campbell at QB and receivers like Antwan Randle El and James Thrash could ever be unstoppable. And of course Caste clown Jim Zorn is writing their only white skill player-Chris Cooley-out of the offense, just as he's writing Reed Doughty out of the defense. The success of talentless teams like this is one of the reasons I think NFL games are fixed.

    The Redskins are apparently on their way to being one of this year's surprise "chosen" teams. This really caught me off guard, as I suspected they'd be horrendous (given their abysmal roster) after the departure of magical St. Joe Gibbs. I don't agree with the positive assessment of Campbell; this guy was only productive for a single year, on a very good team, in college. I thought he'd be another Akili Smith. While he may be more talented than Tavaris Jackson (who isn't?), I think Vince Young, Jamarcus Russell and David Garrard are all either more skilled, or have much more potential, than Campbell. If you've listened to Campbell talk, you know he hasn't mastered any "complex" playbook.

    The mafia must have made a boatload of money on yesterday's games. They certainly profited handsomely from the Redskins beating the Cowboys, but how about Kansas City over Denver? The NFL is just as "real" as pro wrestling, and it's no longer as entertaining.
     
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    Now that the defense is the proper pigmentation maybe Zorn can work on getting Rabach and Jansen out of the starting lineup. Then the Blackskins will be down to a more fan/media acceptable 2 white starters.
     
  22. Deadlift

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    Frankly, I don't know what the big deal is? Do you like Jerry Jones and his black Cowboys? The Cowboys' are likely to win their next 3 games, so it's a good thing that their record got blemished already.

    If you are saying that many "teams" in today's NFL are incredibly watered-down, then I completely agree with that. You'll get no disagreement from me. The Skins have a pretty weak schedule and their playoff hopes might hinder on their 2 games with the Eagles and their last match-ups with the Cowboys and Giants. They do have a game against Pittsburgh (who knows if Big Ben will even be serviceable?), and I think the Skins will win that game.


    Here's their weak schedule:

    Date Opponent Time/Result
    Sep 4 @N.Y. Giants Lost 7-16
    Sep 14 New Orleans Won 29-24
    Sep 21 Arizona Won 24-17
    Sep 28 @Dallas Won 26-24
    Oct 5 @Philadelphia 1:00pm
    Oct 12 St. Louis 1:00pm
    Oct 19 Cleveland 4:15pm
    Oct 26 @Detroit 1:00pm
    Nov 3 Pittsburgh 8:30pm
    Week 10 BYE
    Nov 16 Dallas 8:15pm
    Nov 23 @Seattle 4:15pm
    Nov 30 N.Y. Giants 1:00pm
    Dec 7 @Baltimore 1:00pm
    Dec 14 @Cincinnati 1:00pm
    Dec 21 Philadelphia 1:00pm
    Dec 28 @San Francisco 4:15pm


    Notice the Washington victory over Arizona? If things were "fixed" to the degree you suggest, why wasn't Jason Campbell the one "chosen" to throw 6 TD passes against Arizona (what Brett Favre just did)?? In fact, Jason Campbell had a pretty weak game against the lowly Cards!

    Also, who cares that Denver lost to KC? Their defense is All-black except for Engelberger and their O-line has gotten darker. Denver was LUCKY to be 3-0, and it was no secret that their defense isn't very good. Did you think Denver was a juggernaut just because their record was unblemished? Did you want to hear more Brandon Marshall worship? Denver is now facing adversity and let's see how they respond.

    The NFL is "SO" watered-down that Jacksonville has a good chance of making the playoffs again! It's just the nature of today's No Fundamentals League....


    Note: I'm not attacking you, but I just don't understand what you are concerned about. The league is certainly "fixed" when it comes to demographics; what we call the Caste System or affirmative action.

    I hope to hear from you! [​IMG]
     
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    Deadlift,

    My "fixed" theory isn't concerned just with race. We all realize how "fixed" things are against white players in today's NFL. I simply don't think the games are legitimate, and haven't thought so for a long time. The officials alone can determine the outcome of games with crucial calls at key moments. The fact that everyone acknowledges holding could be called on every play, as well as pass interference on all passing plays and an "illegal block" on every kick return, is proof positive of this. They simply pick and choose when to call holding, pass interference or an illegal block.

    I readily admit that I'm surprised it wasn't "fixed" for Michael Vick, or Vince Young, to "win" a Super Bowl. I don't know the specifics of how it all works, or else I'd be able to handsomely profit from that knowledge. Having played a lot of competitive sports in my youth, and now having coached youth sports for many years, I just don't believe that professional sports (especially NFL and NBA games) have the feel of real competitive events any longer. The T.O.'s and Ocho Cincos, with all their contrived drama, are exactly like the wrestling characters Vince McMahon has developed for television audiences. What real coach would put up with such clowns?
    What team owner, general manager or coaching staff would prefer to employ uneducated thugs with criminal propensities, as today's NFL hierarchy does, if winning games was actually their goal? When you throw in the fact these ignorant, violent juveniles are not even any good at playing the game of football, then there is no innocent explanation for the continuing hold they have on team rosters around the league.

    Don't know if that's clear or not, but I think that the whole thing is a charade, controlled by our corrupt masters, just as they control everything else.
     
  24. Thrashen

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    "The T.O.'s and Ocho Cincos, with all their contrived drama, are exactly like the wrestling characters Vince McMahon has developed for television audiences. What real coach would put up with such clowns?"


    Exactly, thank you.

    I share Bigunreal's conspiracy concerns, though not to that extreme. If all of us here at CF totally agree that a major aspect of the game is "fixed" through the racial funnelling of it's players, the limiting of whites at skill positions, and purposely keeping the league 30% white for two decades....why in the world would anyone here TRUST that "the league" wouldnt want to fix it's games in order to:

    (1) make things more interesting
    (2) allow people to make money through betting/gambling on games.

    I also think that as more people lose interest in the new, boring, skill-less NFL....the powers-that-be realized that they have to "create" characters. I feel this way because every team seems to be filled with uneducated buffoons who are super-prima-donnas.

    To answer Bigunreal's question as to WHY the NFL wants total babies like this...."they" know that blacks are easier to control than whites. For instance, they will listen to "the script" and not ask questions (that dont concern their paychecks).
     
  25. PhillyBirds

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    Who has ever wondered why a ESPN was created? Do they think people actually give a damn about hearing who won enough for them to turn on a TV? Gamblers needed the constant coverage to stay ahead of the curve with their bets. This sensationalism is just used to keep people who wouldn't normally be interested tuned in.

    I for one would be perfectly content with reading the scores in tomorrow's Philadelphia Inquirer, but then again I don't bet on sports.

    Betting influences sports so much, I wouldn't completely rule out the scripting of some professional sports games. It's been done in the past...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_ScandalEdited by: PhillyBirds
     

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