2008 Buccaneers

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  1. Don Wassall

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    Jon "Chucky" Gruden, he of the comical facial gestures, remains a hard-core Caste System proponent. Gruden has waived and otherwise discarded a host of talented white wide receivers while coaching the Raiders and Buccaneers, and one of his first moves after coming over from Oakland to Tampa was to greatly reduce Mike Alstott's role.


    This year the Bucs have really gone Caste on offense, replete even with a sumo-dominated line. There are but two white starters on offense, and two on defense.


    Gruden does like his white quarterbacks, sometimes juggling a half-dozen or more on his training camp rosters. It's just every other position where Chucky believes whites need not apply.


    Out of the mad scientist's latest quarterback laboratory emerged Jeff Garcia as the starter, only to be given the boot after one week of play in 2008. Into his place steps well-traveled Brian Griese, who has his moments but not Garcia's track record of leading teams into the playoffs. Luke McCown is currently third on the totem pole but could well be starting at some point this campaign as the Bucs try to defend their surprising NFC divisional title from last year.


    6-8 Jeremy Trueblood, in his third season out of Boston College, starts at right tackle.


    Notre Dame grad Sean Mahan is a backup center.


    There are no white tight ends and of course no white WRs.


    Byron Storer out of Cal is a backup blocking back.


    It's not quite as bleak on defense. Starting linebacker Barrett Ruud was tearing it up for most of '07 in his first year as a starter, leading the NFL in tackles before slowing down the last month. But overall he's picked up in the NFL where he left off as a tackling machine for Nebraska.


    Chris Hovan starts at one of the tackle spots in Tampa's 4-3 D. The former first round draft pick of the Vikings is now in his 9th season.


    Oregon State's Sabby Piscatelli was drafted in the second round in '07 before ending up on IR with a knee injury after three games. He's a backup to begin '08 but has too much talent for his "apprenticeship" to last much longer. Piscatelli is big (6-3 and 225 lbs.) and fast (sub 4.50 40) and hits real hard, similar to long-time Bucs safety John Lynch but faster. Mark him down as an eventual star.


    Matt McCoy, who started some with Philadelphia before being released mid-season last year, is a backup middle linebacker with excellent speed and instincts. But with Ruud firmly entrenched as the starter, McCoy doesn't look to be starting again any time soon.


    NUMBER OF WHITE STARTERS: 4


    APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF WHITE PLAYERS ON 53 MAN ROSTER: 13


    GRADE: F
     
  2. bigunreal

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    The receivers that Gruden trots out to start opposite Joey Galloway are about as bad as even the rotten modern day NFL can produce. Ike Hilliard? Michael Clayton? Yet, Mike Hass cannot find a job in this league.
     
  3. Don Wassall

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    Fat Boy Byron Leftwich has lost all of 10 pounds, in an attempt to win Tampa's starting quarterback job. It only took until his 7th season for Leftwich to start thinking a bit about his conditioning. The number of fatass blacks in football and baseball is ridiculous. When the NFL was integrated in a reasonable way in the '60s and '70s there were very few obese players.




    â€" Byron Leftwichis showing how serious he is about winning the Buccaneers' QB competition. He has reportedly lost more than 10 pounds since last season and told the media he's not done shedding weight. Leftwich, who is listed at 250 pounds, is primarily battling Luke McCown for the starting job, although rookie Josh Freeman has an outside chance at winning it.
    http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Whispers/2009/nfc060709.htm
     
  4. Don Wassall

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    Don't sweat it, DWFs. This creep will be starting in the Bucs backfield for years to come.

    Talib facing battery charge

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers cornerback Aqib Talib was arrested early Thursday and charged with simple battery and resisting arrest, both misdemeanors, in connection with an alleged assault on a cab driver.



    Tampa-area media outlets reported that according to a Florida Highway Patrol arrest report, Talib struck a cab driver in the right ear and neck with a closed fist shortly after 11 p.m. on Wednesday night.



    According to a report from the Pinellas County, Fla. sheriff's office, Talib, 23, was arrested early Thursday morning by the Florida Highway Patrol. He was booked and released on a total of $300 bail at about 6 a.m. Thursday, according to the report.


    According to the police report, when they arrived on the scene Talib and two other men were passengers in the cab. Police asked Talib to get out of the car three times and he did not cooperate, according to the report.


    "It was like someone hit me upside the head with a hammer," said the driver, 47-year-old David Duggan of St. Petersburg, according to the St. Petersburg Times. "He hit me so hard he knocked my hat off my head."


    Duggan said he had picked the men up outside Nova 535, a St. Petersburg venue that hosts private parties, and charged the men $50 to take them to a hotel in Tampa, according to the Times.


    The Buccaneers did not immediately comment on the arrest, according to area media reports.


    An NFL spokesman said the league would review the incident, according to the Tampa Tribune.


    "As in any other such matter, we will look into it," league spokesman Greg Aiello said in an e-mail, according to the Tribune.


    Talib, whom the Buccaneers drafted 20th overall in 2008 from Kansas, is currently penciled in as one of the Buccaneers' starting cornerbacks. He had four interceptions in 15 games as a rookie last season.
    Talib has been involved in a pair of violent incidents since joining the league, according to area media reports. In a brawl during practice in May, Talib swung his helmet at a teammate and hit bystander Torrie Cox instead. And last year, during the league's rookie symposium, he got into a fight with then-teammate Cory Boyd.
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  5. referendum

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    Bucs sign Barret Ruud's brother Bo, in conjunction with Angelo Crowell going on IR. This should help Koutivides', Mccoy and Bo Ruud's chances of making the Bucs.
     
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    This could be a bit of a stickey wicket for the Bucs if McCown has another good week coming up like last week. Three black QB's and all.

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    Looks like the Bucs are following Jacksonville's pioneering coal black model by trying to get rid of Luke McCown and going only with black QBs. One white o-lineman, and three whites on defense. Let's see, Hovan is near the end of his career; Piscatelli could still be beat out or share time with an afflete; and Barrett Ruud, let's hope he doesn't blow out a knee ala Stewart Bradley on the Black Eagles.

    From Rotoworld: Bucs coach Raheem Morris informed his players this morning that Byron Leftwich will be the team's starting quarterback. Not a big surprise here as Leftwich has outplayed Luke McCown for most of the preseason. The Bucs may try to get a late-round pick for McCown or fellow backup Josh Johnson while they develop rookie Josh Freeman. Although Leftwich has some weapons in Antonio Bryant and Kellen Winslow, we think you can find a higher ceiling for your QB2.

    I watched the Bucs play the Dolphins the other night, and McCown was a noticeably better all-around QB, blessed with pocket presence, mobility and accuracy. Leftwich is immobile and of course has a long, slow delivery and is erratic in his accuracy. All in allLeftwich is aperfect fit for a West Coast offense. [​IMG]
     
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    Good ole Byron Leftwich. He couldn't do anything in Jacksonville so now he has found a new home. I can't believe the Jaguars wasted the 7th overall pick on this tub of lard. Another team I won't be watching this season.
     
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    If they aren't able to get rid of McCown through a trade, they've got a problem. He'll always be there just out of sight, lurking in the background.

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  10. Thrashen

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    Outplayed McCown? I watched the Bucs play the other night, and Leftwich looked absolutely terrible. He missed about 4-5 easy throws and looked like his typical flabby, super slow-footed self in the few mintues I watched.

    At least the Buc's thousands of rabid DWFs won't have a white QB (or any other white player) to blame this season....the way they always did Trent Dilfer and John Lynch. The Bucs might be in the bottom 3 teams in terms of talent this season. Even an obviously caste coach like Morris would be pretty stupid to get rid of McCown, but since when does that matter? It should be funny to watch this bunch of losers.
     

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