2007 White WRs and TEs

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  1. ToughJ.Riggins

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    I really think there is four white WRs that could be drafted this year. I think Jordy Nelson could go as early as the 3rd round if he keeps producing (if he does well at the Combine he could go in the early second round). Jordan Shipley (JR) could also go in the 3rd round. Todd Blythe could get drafted in the 4th round. Danny Amendola could be drafted late. Face it Luke Swan is done; he was at best a late round pick anyway and now he is out for the rest of the season.

    Expect Hartline, Jurovich and Dicky Lyons JR. all juniors to stay in school and improve their status and get drafted next year. I know I'm optimistic, but things are looking up at WR for us IMO. [​IMG] Am I missing any Juniors or Seniors that have a chance of getting drafted?
     
  2. highschoolcoach

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    Is this the same Brian Hartline that "lacks breakaway speed"? I know it is, but can't help getting a dig in at the so-called sportwriter who wrote that about him at every opportunity. I will probably stay pissed-off at that lamebrain for quite a while. Being a track coach, I know that a guy who was the Ohio high school Division I state champion in both the 110m. and 300m. hurdles cannot lack breakaway speed. In my opinion, the only reason he supposedly lacks breakaway speed is because he is white.
     
  3. whiteCB

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    Couldn't agree more hs coach. I keep having to tell dumb a$$ Ohio St fans who are in a bit of a shock to see white boy Hartline out there that he indeed DOES have great speed. I then back up this claim telling the idiot that Harline was a state champ in the 110m ands 300m hurdles. They pretty much believe me by then because like you said its impossible to "lack breakaway speed" and be a state hurdles champ especially in a state like Ohio.
     
  4. Electric Slide

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    I even heard somebody say that he "didn't look that fast" on his punt return! I don't know what they were watching. I told him the obvious, of course he looked fast because he was, how else could you make the TD on the return?
     
  5. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Where was the post that mentioned what was said about Hartline? I am writing some articles on the caste system, so I'd like to know the exact quote. It's amazing what these idiots will say to stereotype a white player, even when all evidence contradicts it!
     
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    Here is the article by Rusty Miller as it appeared in the Cincinnati Enquirer:

    Robiskie, Hartline now go-to receivers
    BY RUSTY MILLER | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    COLUMBUS - Ohio State wide receivers Brian Robiskie and Brian Hartline - the two Brians, in the coaches' parlance - know precisely what Buckeyes fans are thinking.

    Who are these guys?

    Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez jumped to the NFL a year early and Roy Hall graduated, taking with them around 70 percent of the catches, yards and touchdowns provided by the wideouts during Ohio State's 12-1 run to the national championship game last season.

    Robiskie and Hartline, the top two returnees, along with Ray Small and Albert Dukes, combined for all of 56 catches - three fewer than Ginn had by himself.

    "We need to earn the respect of the people around us," Hartline said this week after one of the Buckeyes' spring workouts. "That's how the people before us did it, and that's how we should do it too."

    Many of OSU's scrapbook moments from recent years have revolved around big plays by their big-play wide receivers - now departed. It won't be just the fans who will have a hard time making the transition to a new set of receivers. The coaches feel the same way but remain optimistic.

    "No, they're not up to the standards - yet. It's only April," position coach Darrell Hazell said of the receiving corps. "Hopefully, by September we'll be hitting on all cylinders. We've got a long way to go. But we've got some good players. As long as they keep listening and learning, we'll be OK when it's all said and done."

    But to hear Robiskie tell is, there's no need to wait.

    "If you ask us, we can do everything," he said. "We've got a strong corps. We've got diversity among us in what we can do. It's so great, because we all can do different things. We can stretch the field at the same time; we all can go into traffic and make those tough catches."

    Robiskie had 29 catches a year ago and was on the receiving end of the 50-yard arrow from Troy Smith against Penn State that all but sealed the Heisman Trophy for Smith.

    A junior, he has soaked up what he saw from Ginn and Gonzalez. He said their message was a simple one.

    "Play fast every play," said Robiskie, whose father is a long-time NFL assistant. "In high school, you might think you can take a play off here and there, but that doesn't happen here. Those guys said you've got to go hard every play because you're going against some of the best every week."

    Hartline, a quarterback until midway through his junior year in high school, has fought a hamstring injury this spring but figures to be in the rotation at wingback. At 6 feet 3 and 180 pounds, he doesn't have breakneck speed and isn't all that physical, but he has shown a willingness to make tough grabs in traffic.

    Small has Ginn-like speed, while Dukes, who is from the same Florida town and school as former Buckeyes receiving star Santonio Holmes, will see a lot more playing time on offense. He had just two catches in 2006.
     
  7. ToughJ.Riggins

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    Thanks, Highschoolcoach, for your help, much appreciated.
     
  8. highschoolcoach

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    You're welcome, and i'd like copies of your articles, if they are not posted on castefootball.
     
  9. Jimmy Chitwood

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    wide receiver Dicky Lyons, Jr. and tight end Jacob Tamme are both having big games for Kentucky against Florida.

    Tamme has 4 catches for 60 yards and a touchdown, and had another big gainer called back on a holding penalty. and he is playing with a turf toe.

    Lyons is having a HUGE day: 4 kickoff returns for 90 yards; 8 catches, 124 yards and 3 touchdowns!

    Tebow, is carrying Florida nearly by himself... he's thrown for 4 TDs so far and ran for 73 yards, thus far. ooh! he just ran in a touchdown! 78 yards rushing the game!

    announcer Bob Griese is very typical in his caste-speak except when talking about Tebow. Dicky Lyons has made the Florida secondary look slow the entire game and Griese even said he runs a 4.43-40. but here's the kicker... on Lyons' 50-yard touchdown catch and run, Griese said Lyons was "just fast enough" as he blew the doors off the entire Gator secondary. [​IMG]

    a few plays later, when Percy Harvin (a black receiver for the Gators) barely made it into the endzone, Griese raved about the "break-away" speed. even though he BARELY out ran the Kentucky defender. bah!

    edited to add: Griese also kept saying, "Woodson has to look for Burton, his go-to guy." then, after Lyons would make another big play, he would say something to the effect of "well, that will work, too."

    Lyons finished with 8 catches for 124 yards and 3 touchdowns, and 5 kickoff returns for 119 yards. Jacob Tamme ended up with 6 catches for 68 yards and 1 touchdown.Edited by: Jimmy Chitwood
     
  10. Bronk

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    Anybody catch North Dakota State's Tyler Roehl? He had school record 263 yards rushing on 22 carries and a TD.The Bison upset Minnesota 27-21

    His TD was 77 yards and, I want to tell you, that kid zipped past the DBs, he has some speed. Roehl had another long run later in the game as well.

    Tyler Roehl, Tyler Roehl, TYLER ROEHL!
     
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    wrong thread bud, but there was a lot of talk about Roehl going on today in other thread(s) [​IMG]
     
  12. Jimmy Chitwood

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    since Colonel Reb is busy *winks knowingly* , i thought i'd take the time to help him carry the load a bit...

    WR
    Matt Root Air Force 1 catch for 25 yards and a touchdown.
    Chris McGaha Arizona State bye.
    Corey Partridge Bowling Green 4 for 61 and 1 touchdown, and 2 carries for 9 yards.
    Matt Allen BYU 2 for 29.
    Austin Collie BYU 1 for 12.
    Bryce Mahuika BYU 2 kickoff returns for 75 yards, and 4 punt returns for 44.
    Bryan Anderson Central Michigan 2 for 26.
    Tyler Grisham Clemson 4 for 59.
    Dusty Sprague Colorado 2 for 14.
    Scotty McKnight Colorado 2 for 13.
    Tyson DeVree Colorado 7 for 90 and a touchdown.
    Luke Roberts Colorado State NSA.
    Blake Smolen Grand Valley State 3 for 74, and 6 runs for 50 and a touchdown, and 2 kickoff returns for 82 yards.
    Kyle Hudson Illinois 1 for 6.
    Trey Stross Iowa NSA.
    Todd Blythe Iowa State 3 for 34.
    Kerry Meier Kansas 3 for 15.
    Jordy Nelson Kansas State 12 for 176 and 3 touchdowns! [​IMG]
    Dicky Lyons Jr. Kentucky 8 catches, 124 yards, 3 touchdowns. [​IMG] added 5 kickoff returns for 119.
    Eric Decker Minnesota 4 for 47 and a touchdown.
    Ryan Bagley Montana 10 for 110 and 2 touchdowns.
    Todd Peterson Nebraska NSA.
    Nate Swift Nebraska 3 for 40.
    Mike McCoy Nevada 7 for 92 and a touchdown.
    Andy Birkel Northern Colordado 2 for 21.
    Brock Stickler North Texas 1 for 6.
    Eric Peterman Northwestern 5 for 70, and 2 carries for 25.
    Ross Lane Northwestern 4 for 40.
    Robby Paris Notre Dame 3 for 15.
    Brian Hartline Ohio State 4 for 41, and 2 punt returns for 17.
    Dave Sanzenbacher Ohio State 2 for 18.
    Jake Standeford Purdue 3 for 21.
    Brett Swain San Diego State 2 for 27.
    Kevin Jurovich San Jose State 8 for 58.
    Zach Sledge Southern Methodist 5 for 63 and a touchdown.
    Evan Moore Stanford 4 for 37.
    Austin Rogers Tennessee 4 for 52.
    Jordan Shipley Texas 3 for 56.
    Danny Amendola Texas Tech 11 for 94.
    Grant Walker Texas Tech 4 for 37.
    Jesse Meyer Tulsa 4 for 56 and 1 touchdown.
    Joe Cowan UCLA 7 for 39
    Brad Kanuch UConn 1 for 15.
    Ryan Wolfe UNLV 11 for 135 yards and 1 touchdown. [​IMG] also added 3 runs for 13.
    Casey Flair UNLV 5 for 74.
    Bradon Godfrey Utah NSA.
    Derrek Richards Utah 3 for 16, and 2 punt returns for 14.
    Brian Hernandez Utah NSA.
    Jake Gaebler Western Kentucky 2 for 38.
    Hoost Marsh Wyoming 4 for 37, and 1 punt return for 15.



    TE
    Dennis Pitta BYU 1 for 5.
    Andrew George BYU 2 for 25.
    Bear Pascoe Fresno State
    Brandon Myers Iowa 1 for 4.
    Jeron Mastrud Kansas State 4 for 67.
    Michael Pooschke Kansas State 3 for 12.
    Jacob Tamme Kentucky 6 catches for 68 yards and 1 touchdown
    Richard Dickson LSU 3 for 31
    Gary Barnidge Louisville 8 for 64.
    Scott Kuhn Louisville 3 for 15 and a touchdown.
    Chase Coffman Missouri 3 for 53.
    John Carlson Notre Dame 4 carries for 28 yards.
    Jake Ballard Ohio State 3 for 35 and a touchdown.
    Joe Jon Finley Oklahoma NSA.
    Mickey Shuler Penn State NSA.
    Vincent Chase Southern Methodist NSA.
    H-Back Eric Morris Texas Tech 9 for 47.
    Jonathan Stupar Virginia 3 for 34.
    Tom Santi Virginia 1 for 9.
    John Tereshinski Wake Forest 1 for -2.
    Wade Betschart Wyoming 3 for 39 and a touchdown.
     
  13. Colonel_Reb

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    Thanks for the help Jimmy! I noticed several of our RBs and WRs had unreal games, and I was able to watch Air Force on TV. That was fun! [​IMG]
     
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    WR/RB Chad Hall Air Force 6 for 66 and 21 runs for 96 yards and 2 TDs plus 4 KR for 86
    Sean Quintana Air Force 1 for 16
    Mark Root Air Force 2 for 11
    Chris McGaha Arizona State 4 for 58 plus 2 KR for 46
    Bryan Anderson Central Michigan 10 for 142 and a TD
    Tyler Grisham Clemson 4 for 32
    Dusty Sprague Colorado 2 runs for 7 yards
    Luke Roberts Colorado State 2 for 30
    Austin Knowlin Columbia 3 for 29 and a TD plus a 6 yard run, 2 KR for 48, and 2 PR for 27
    Brad Kanuch Connecticut 1 for 35
    Jesse Baker Cornell 7 for 69
    Zac Canty Cornell 8 for 70 and 2 TDs
    Bryan Walters Cornell 10 for 115
    Corey Mazza Harvard 1 for 16
    Matt Luft Harvard 4 for 70
    Todd Blythe Iowa State 6 for 54
    Kerry Meier Kansas 2 for 4
    Jordy Nelson Kansas State 8 for 105 and a TD plus a 92 yard PR for a TD
    Daniel Gonzalez Kansas State 7 for 104 and a TD
    Dicky Lyons Jr. Kentucky 3 for 48
    Patrick Honeycutt Middle Tennessee 2 for 11 and a TD
    Lance Long Mississippi State 1 for 9
    Nate Swift Nebraska 6 for 112 and 2 TDs
    Mike McCoy Nevada 1 for 15
    Kyle Sammons Nevada 5 for 69
    Weston Neiman New Mexico State 4 for 39 and a TD plus an 11 yard run and 2 KR for 39
    Kole Heckendorf North Dakota State 6 for 87
    Eric Peterman Northwestern 2 catches for 10 yards and a TD plus 3 runs for 25
    Ross Lane Northwestern 7 for 71
    Brian Hartline Ohio State 4 for 69 and a TD plus 1 run for 8
    Braden Lepisto Penn 10 for 141
    Brendan Circle Princeton 5 for 62 plus a 22 yard TD run
    Jeb Heavenrich Princeton 1 for 11 plus a 1 yard run
    Will Thanheiser Princeton 1 for 5 plus an 8 yard run
    Jake Standeford Purdue 1 for 12
    James Casey Rice game high 7 for 101 and a TD plus 5 runs for 11
    Zack Sledge Southern Methodist 4 for 39
    Evan Moore Stanford 4 for 60
    Austin Rogers Tennessee 3 for 36
    Roger Holland Texas A&M 3 for 40 and a TD plus a 1 yard carry
    Eric Morris Texas Tech 10 for 125 and a TD
    Danny Amendola Texas Tech 7 for 57
    Grant Walker Texas Tech 2 for 11
    Joe Cowan UCLA 5 for 56
    Casey Flair UNLV game high 10 for 121 and a TD
    Derrek Richards Utah 4 for 29 plus a 1 yard run
    Brian Hernandez Utah 3 for 16 and a TD
    Hoost Marsh (my favorite college player name) Wyoming 1 for 2 plus 2 runs for 77 yards plus a 22 yard KR
    David Leonard Wyoming 3 for 45 and a TD

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    Travis Dekker Air Force 2 for 26
    Rob Gronkowski Arizona 3 for 85 and a TD
    Ryan Purvis Boston College 5 for 47
    Tyson Devree Colorado 1 for 6
    Riar Geer Colorado 2 for 13 and a TD
    Mark Starr Colorado State 1 for 11
    Zac Pauga Colorado State 1 for 7
    Robbie Agnone Delaware game high 7 for 133 in the upset over Navy
    Bear Pascoe Fresno State 5 for 59
    Mark Hafner Houston 4 for 39
    Jacob Tamme Kentucky 6 for 48
    Gary Barnidge Louisville 2 for 40
    Scott Kuhn Louisville 1 for 27
    Cody Slate Marshall 3 for 41 plus 2 runs for 5
    Joey Haynos Maryland 5 for 46
    Ian Jorgenson Massachusetts 1 for 8 and a TD
    Chase Coffman Missouri 2 for 15
    Chris Mark New Mexico 1 for 12 and a TD
    Nick Cleaver New Mexico State 5 for 48
    Rory Nicol Ohio State 6 for 39
    Jake Ballard Ohio State 2 for 20 and a TD
    Andy Boyd South Carolina 1 for 7
    Logan Paulsen UCLA 2 for 8
    Jamar Hunt UTEP 2 for 17 and a TD
    John Tereshinski Wake Forest 2 for 22
    Jed Collins Washington State game high 6 for 71
    Wade "Bucky" Betschart Wyoming 3 for 14 and a TD plus a 2 yard runEdited by: Colonel_Reb
     
  15. Colonel_Reb

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    Saturday stats complete.
     
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    Thanks Colonel, for all the work you put in. I enjoy reading the stats especially the white RB stats, which I am doing next!
     
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    Thanks to Jimmy Chitwood for sending me to the info on this awesome player, University of Sherbrooke WR Samuel Giguere. You can read his profile in French here.

    http://www.usherbrooke.ca/vertetor/sports_exc/football/align ement/profils/giguiere_samuel05.html

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    This article is linked by DraftDaddy from Yahoo Sports. The thing is that white players like him are not "rare natural athletes," they are all over the place. The problem is that nobody will recruit or play them.

    Sherbrooke (Canada) senior wide receiver Samuel Giguere is attracting interest. He finished second in the Canadian Interuniversity Sport (CIS) with 45 receptions for 871 yards and seven touchdowns, averaging more than 19 yards per catch. He has been timed in the 4.4 range in the 40-yard dash with a career best time of 4.35. Giguere ran 4.41 for me during the workout session of this past spring's East-West Bowl held in Quebec City. He is a rare natural athlete with a 40-inch vertical, 4.14 short shuttle, 10-foot, 1-inch broad jump and has also completed 23 reps of 225 pounds during offseason training. Not subject to NCAA rules, he was able to sign with an agent while still having a year of college eligibility remaining. He signed with well-known CFL agent Darren Gill who has represented Jason Clermont and Chris Bauman, two of the top-rated receivers in recent CFL Draft memory. You could hear Giguere's name among the players assigned to the East-West Shrine Game or another postseason game.

    I will post this in the CFL forum as well, just so our French Canadian friends don't miss it.
     
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    Looking at how many white WRs and TEs are ranked among the top 120 in the country in receiving yardage, we have 2 in the top 10. Jordy is the only one besides Michael Crabtree with over 1,000 yards at this point.

    WR Jordy Nelson-Kansas State 2
    WR Danny Amendola-Texas Tech 6
    WR Kevin Jurovich-San Jose State 26
    WR Matt Simon-Northern Illinois 32
    WR Bryan Anderson-Central Michigan 38
    WR Ryan Wolfe-UNLV 47
    WR Brett Swain-San Diego State 60
    TE Cody Slate-Marshall 65
    WR Eric Peterman-Northwestern 71
    WR Todd Blythe-Iowa State 81
    WR Eric Morris-Texas Tech 89
    WR Ross Lane-Northwestern 91
    WR Dicky Lyons Jr.-Kentucky 94
    TE Gary Barnidge-Louisville 96
    TE Dennis Pitta-BYU 105
    WR Mike McCoy-Nevada 108
    WR Zack Sledge-Southern Methodist 110
    WR Luke Swan-Wisconsin 115
     
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    I hope you are happy with the above list, jaxvid. [​IMG]
     
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    Mike McCoy Nevada 3 for 56 and a TD
    Weston Neiman New Mexico State 1 for 17 plus an 8 yard KR



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    Nick Cleaver New Mexico State 2 for 9
     
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    No! I come to castefootball to get information on my favorite asian, Samoan, and hispanic players. [​IMG]
     
  22. Colonel_Reb

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    Look it up yourself then! [​IMG]
     
  23. jaxvid

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    Too lazy.
     
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    i knew it [​IMG]
     
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    Sad.
     

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