2007 Texans

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  1. Don Wassall

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    Halt the presses! The Texans have a starting white receiver!


    But wait -- the obligatory sensational black rookie has emerged from nowhere. Now it's just a matter of time until the howls of the media scribes and their drunk white fan sycophants becomes too much for Gary Kubiak to bear, and poor Kevin Walter will be demoted and Jacoby Jones promoted.


    One cannot read anything about the Texans without hearing about how pitiful their wide receivers are after Andre Johnson (and before Jones emerged). This in a league that has many teams with woeful groups of all black receivers. But the Texans must have truly been desperate at the position to have promoted Walter. No one wants to give him a chance, he's just assumed to suck because he's white.


    After making Walter their starter at least temporarily, the team waived their other white receiver, David Anderson, the record setting man with hands of glue from Colorado State who excelled in picking up yards after the catch.


    Also working against Walter is Owen Daniels, Houston's starting white tight end who is an excellent receiver and key part of the offense. A white tight end who's a good receiver AND a starting white wide receiver? That's very controversial territory indeed for the highly segregated NFL. Better to play it safe and slowly phase out Walter until he's once again a White Special Teams Demon.


    The Texans do seem to be working hard to upgrade their offensive line, which has been nothing short of terrible for the team's first five seasons of existence, but that remains to be seen. There are only two white starters -- Eric Winston, a third round draft choice in '06 out of Miami, starts at RT, with Mike Flanagan at center. Jordan Black, Steve McKinney, and rookie Kasey Studdard from Texas are backups.


    The Texans have three white tight ends in addition to Daniels -- veteran Mark Bruener, Jeb Putzier a converted wide receiver from Boise State, and Joel Dreessen.


    Whites need not apply when it comes to defense. 14 year veteran Jeff Zgonina is a backup tackle. That's it. Zgonina is also listed as the third string long snapper. What a lucky guy.


    NUMBER OF WHITE STARTERS: 5


    APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF WHITE PLAYERS ON 53 MAN ROSTER: 16


    GRADE: F+ (F if/when Walter is demoted)
     
  2. backrow

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    Texans are about to sign David Anderson back to their active roster. let's hope that both him and Walter get some passes thrown their way!
     
  3. SteveB

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    Owen Daniel, Kevin Walter, and yes, even David Anderson were big contributors in the Texans win over the Dolphins today. Daniel was the leading receiver with 6 rec for 96 yds. Walter had a big catch right at the end of the game to get the Texans into field goal position to win the game. Anderson had a big 19 yd catch on the final drive.Edited by: SteveB
     
  4. backrow

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    Rookie Jacoby Jones will serve as Houston's fourth receiver Sunday.

    Coach Gary Kubiak says David Anderson deserves to keep his job as third receiver because he's played well in the role while Jones (shoulder) and Andre Johnson (knee) have been out. Andre' Davis will continue to start
     
  5. Thrashen

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    What makes me sad is that alot of you guys here at CF honestly believe that Kevin Walter is, relatively speaking, the least talented white WR "allowed" to start in the NFL.

    It's simply NOT true. The real truth is that Walter never gets any good looks (for some reason). If you watch the Texans this season, which I have, you see how Schaub will drop back and not even look at Kevin.

    But hey, at least "Gary Kaste-iak" is finally coming to his senses with Anderson and Walter and letting guys start who actually perform on the field! What a strange concept, I know...
     
  6. Don Wassall

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    I agree that Walter isn't getting many looks from Schaub. But the last two games he's still put up very good numbers -- 6 for 77 and 5 for 67. And Andre Johnson may not be nearly as "explosive" when he finally returns from his knee injury, which should keep Walter a starterall season, especially considering how sound he is fundamentally.
     
  7. backrow

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    i watch Walter and love the way he plays. tough, dynamic, strong, great blocker, incredible hands... what's not to like!?
     
  8. ToughJ.Riggins

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    You wonder why Anderson was cut in the first place. The Texans were certainly quick to sign him when they needed a WR and not only signed him they quickly proceeded to play him! I guess he's just a token white guy to them. [​IMG]

    Looking around the league, I was shocked the Eagles didn't resign Jeremy Bloom when they needed a return man. Maybe the Lions will sign Bloom or David Kircus as the 5th WR next year; they seem pretty fair to white WRs in the Martz era.

    Former Lion Kevin Kasper's days in the NFL are surely numbered. He returned a kickoff at the very back of the endzone in the last preseason game; when Brian Calhoun was trying to push him to kneel down b/c he knew he was probably going to get cut for some younger black athletes. He then proceeded to fumble the ball. Read how outraged the fans were at Footballsfuture.

    http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=157451
     
  9. Don Wassall

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    Here's an article on David Anderson. He's doing well enough that hopefully he'll stick with an NFL team evenif the Texans cut him again (after all they have Kevin Walter and Owen Daniels). As Draft Daddy notes, there's no reason to believe he can't be another Wes Welker.


    http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2007/nov/08/catching-o n-in-nfl/
     
  10. ToughJ.Riggins

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    "It's not like I'm a substitute teacher," said Anderson. "When a guy like Andre Johnson comes back, he deserves the ball and he's getting it. I'll be a little bit down the pecking order, but I'm OK with that. I'm just excited to be practicing and playing again."

    There the white man goes being such a team player again. You've gotta be nice to your black teammates to fit in!

    "I wanted to be the only white boy in the NFL to dance," said Anderson. "When you're down 25 points, it's kind of hard to dance."

    "There will be a time," said Anderson. "I can dance, so I've got to show it off. White guys get a bad rap for not having any rhythm. I've got to bring it back."

    And he can apply stereotypical humor to the fact that he's a white guy with rhythm and moves. I guess all these kind of antics and humor helps a white guy to fit in at "a black mans position."Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
  11. Thrashen

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    After reading this article, I actually like David Anderson a lot less and have lost some respect for him.

    It seems to me, based on his loser-attitude and pussified demeanor (not dissimilar to many white skill players), that he is part of the problem. I f*cking hate when people say "White Boy," it's seriously a racial slur and is very degrading.

    I actually hope Anderson doesn't make the team next year. I despise white people (especially those in the position to make a change) who are this stupid, brainwashed and phony. Just read what he says about white men and how they are "inferior" dancers. Once again, he thinks he's much more "special" than all the other American white men. What a self-loathing, white-bashing jerk.

    He's just about as bad as most of the black, showboating idiots who play WR in the NFL (or David Kircus).

    And to think, I watched him in college and actually cared if he was drafted, signed, treated fairly, etc...
     
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    Since I seem to be the authority who many people turn to when deciding who we at CF count as white and/or support, I officially banish David Anderson from CF support and from the white race! We'll figure out which side of his family is non-white later. [​IMG]

    Seriously though, I agree with Thrashen here. This kind of behavior sickens me and is a slap in the face of all whites.
     
  13. Don Wassall

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    Things like this always harken back to the question of how much can we expect from these guys as far as knowledge of what's going on in the world around them. Personally, I don't expect them to have the knowledge of a poster here. The reality is that 99 percent of American whites don't fully understand the racial dynamics taking place in their country. Those that do should consider themselves blessed, whether they have been enlightened by a family member or friend, or have done study on their own.


    Something else to consider is that the media often "fits" stories and quotes into their agenda. For David Anderson, at the ripe old age of 24, to refer to himself as a "white boy" in a light-hearted quote, is not a big deal to me. Also, it's doesn't carry the same implications for a white man to refer to himself as a "white boy" as it does when non-whites, and especially blacks, use it. I don't mind referring to myself as a white boy or being called one by white friends in certain situations and I'm well into middle age. I'm not going to label Anderson some kind of wigger or white hater based on one Caste Media paragraph. These guys are in a very difficult situation even if they are aware of the Caste System.


    For Anderson to speak the way we'd want him to would most likely relegate him from the fringes of the NFL to its memory hole. He's only in the league right now because all the black Houston receivers were injured. I think we should root for them as athletes unless they are clearly not of good character, and I've certainly never read anything negative about Anderson as a person. I admire his talent and determination and will continue to root for him as much as before.
     
  14. Jimmy Chitwood

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    [​IMG] good one, Colonel. [​IMG]

    however, despite the fact that David isn't the vocal leader that we'd like him to be, on the field he IS defying stereotypes.

    it's true i don't like him calling himself a white boy, and his joking about dancing isn't empowering. BUT i have no problem at all with him playing great football. and that is FAR MORE IMPORTANT.

    and for what it's worth, i wish there were a lot more David Kircus types who are fast and flashy and aren't afraid to return some of the taunts that they've heard all their athletic lives. Kircus' only crime was having white skin, and i can't understand why he is so despised.

    edited to add: sorry, Don. i was writing while you posted. and i agree. [​IMG] Edited by: Jimmy Chitwood
     
  15. Colonel_Reb

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    Yes, Anderson's athletic exploits are great and as such deserve recognition. I understand that most of these guys are not racially aware and if they so desire, they can call themselves "white boy" or make other disparaging comments about whites in general. That is their right. I just don't agree with it. I believe words like that are a powerful enemy against us in perpetuating the false stereotypes that exist, and if they are known by a lot of people, they can be just as powerful as what they do on the field. As a result I refrain from using them to describe myself or anyone else as much as possible because to me they belittle my race. I don't think Anderson is a wigger, but he ain't helping the situation at all.
     
  16. ToughJ.Riggins

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    I think Thrashen is being a little hard on Anderson. Anderson is trying to fit in in a black mans league and caste position. It's not like he said, "man it's weird that I'm white and can play WR, there aren't many anomalies like me!" That would be quite more arrogant and harmful. Sehorn's comment to me was worse when he said something along the lines of, the best player plays and he has no problem that he was the last white CB! Arrogant, PC and shameful!

    Anderson was poking fun at a long lived stereotype about whites not being good dancers. I don't think many fans will automatically make a connection from the article "David Anderson said whites can't dance! Therefore whites are tight hipped, therefore they can never play WR!"

    White people just happen to listen to music with more melody than rhythm. We don't need to dirty dance and break dance to rap. Leave that to the blacks and w**gers!
     
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    Much like Don said in his post, I think we should give Anderson a break. Before I came to this site, I actually thought the white athlete was vastly inferior and as much as that thought disturbed me, I couldn't get away from it. It wasn't until I discovered Caste Football and spent some time here that I realized that I was buying into a falsehood and that white athletes were being marginalized and stereotyped because of that falsehood. I was ignorant for thinking that but certainly not a wigger as some have called Anderson. He helps our cause more than he hurts us. So I will still root for him on Sunday's.
     
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    Me too guest301. It's interesting that I spent a long time even as a supporter of the fact that the caste system exists and needs to be overturned, thinking that whites should only make up 25-35% of NFL RBs. Then when presented with arguments by White Shogun and others it got me thinking. I started researching H.S football in different states (we are a majority white country, around 70% or more of H.S football players are white and white suburban schools consistently stomp all over majority black urban schools) and researching Rivals.com and the like to see how biased they are.

    After looking at lots of profiles of H.S RBs like Cory McCaffrey for example on Rivals who only got 2 stars when he has broken all kinds of Oregon records, cuts on a dime and runs a 4.5 40 yard, I realized how many white RBs are weeded out after H.S. My estimate now is that somewhere in the ballpark of 50-70% of NFL RBs should be white, 35-50% of CBs and 65-80% of WRs white. Basically smaller glitches from the represented numbers of our race in the countries population.

    It's really hard to get an exact number, but that is my best estimate after researching it. The more you educate yourself the more you learn how strong this websites argument is!Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins
     
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    agreed.
     
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    I am very much in agreement with you Riggins. We have a local tailback here in Wadsworth, Oh where I live by the name of Dru Jones who I have posted about in the high school forum. He gained well over 2100 yards this year setting all kinds of Medina county records and he is being recruited to play safety in college. He has never played that position and of course this would never happen to a black tailback with his kind of numbers. It is so frustating to me to know that I will likely never see him run the ball again. He's the Marion Barber type with more speed.
     
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    Naturally, I realize that what Anderson does on the field in front of stadiums full of caste bigots is what actually matters. Contrary to how I used to feel, I no longer support every white athlete I see, based on their demeanor, attitude, etc.

    For instance, I'll acknowledge that Brett Favre is great for the game and the QB position, but his treatment of white teammates (especially skill players) is sickening. Not a single person here at CF could ever deny that. I feel like Brett is one of the few white players who gets a free, never-ending pass from the media to play as badly as he wants without criticism.

    What David Anderson said, regardless of the context or spin by the writer, was degrading and made me feel like he was as part of caste system as much as coaches, GM's, demented white fans, and black players who buy into every stupid notion it represents.

    I still hope he does well, but ONLY because he is a white skill player, that's it.
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    Thrashen,

    I agree with you completely about Favre. This is one white guy the jock-sniffers in the media never criticize. He despised Bill Schroeder and contributed to the drunk white fans' hatred for him by his inexcusable treatment of him on the field (yelling angrily at him- can you imagine Favre doing that to any of his black WRs?) He turned his back completely on his "best friend" Mark Chmura when he was charged with having sex with an underage girl. His sister was involved in a drive-by shooting (as a passenger in the car that did the shooting), so you know what type of crowd she ran with. Finally, he lost me for good when he laid down on the field and allowed Michael Strahan to break the single- season sack record. I still maintain that if the record had been held by a Bruce Smith or Reggie White, then you would have heard howls of protest (and they would have been justified) from the usual suspects. The fact that it was only the much maligned Mark Gastineau who held the record undoubtedly contributed to the total silence on the part of the media, in spite of what was obviously a clear and unprecedented breach of the competitive spirit of the game by Favre. I maintain that Favre's actions that day constitute the single worst display of sportsmanship I've ever seen in any professional sport. He should have been banned from the game for that, imho. Instead, he is constantly lauded and is still the apple of John Madden's eye. Because of Favre, I always root against the Packers.
     

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