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The Saints underwent a demographic change during Sean Payton's first season as coach last year, starting a "daring" all-white linebacking corps (the "Snow Patrol") and otherwise moving away from the virtually all-black teams of Jim Haslet. Now in his second season, it's clear that while Payton remains a refreshing change from Haslet, the Saints are still only a slightly above average team from the perspective of white players.


Payton leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to offense. Although the signing of Drew Brees after the '05 season when everyone else was swooning over Daunte Culpepper was a great move, Payton summarily waived Biletnikoff Award winner Mike Hass in training camp last year, along with Chase Lyman (another amazing talent at WR), and Chris Horn. This summer it was Aaron Hosack, a 6'5" receiver with great hands, route-running ability, good speed for his size, and intelligence. If only he was black and had hands of stone, he'd be starting.


The offensive line continues to adhere to the mostly blacks-only tradition started by Haslet. RT Big Jon Stinchcomb out of Georgia is the only white starter. Rookie Andy Alleman (Akron) and second year man Zach Strief are backups.


Eric Johnson, oft-injured but a major receiving talent, is the new starter at tight end. Mark Campbell and John Owens are backup TEs.


Mike Karney is the bulldozing fullback. The Saints still use the FB regularly though Karney rarely touches the ball (11 rushes and 15 receptions in '06).


Brees, given up on by the Chargers and all the "experts" and assumed to be a lame duck during Philip Rivers' rookie season, instead blossomed into one of the elite quarterbacks. Last year he threw for an NFL best 4,418 yards with 26 TD passes and just 11 interceptions. He has keen intelligence, a very accurate arm and topnotch leadership qualities. Brees at worst is just a slight bit behind the Big Three of Manning, Brady and Palmer, but if he has another good year in 2007 the Big Three will be a Big Four.


13-year veteran Jamie Martin is the only other QB on the Saints roster.


On defense the Saints have some good white players, though a few talented young white players were purged during preseason.


Though it was widely thought that speedy MLB Mark Simoneau was going to lose his starting job to Brian Simmons, Simoneau won the battle and the "Snow Patrol" returns intact for another season.


SLB Scott Fujita (a white man adopted and raised by Asian parents) is one of the most under-rated linebackers in the league. The Cal graduate knows how to diagnose plays and get to the ball carrier and in his sixth season is still improving.


WLB Scott Shanle had 98 tackles in his first year as a starter in '06 after joining New Orleans from Dallas.


Tackle Brian Young is the fourth white defensive starter. Young is consistently productive, like so many white defensive players, which is what you want out of football players, but it's the player who can make a highlight reel flashy play but who is inconsistent and often has poor fundamentals who gets the media recognition and adulation.


SS Kevin Kaesviharn was signed as a free agent during the offseason. All Kaesviharn has done is be very productive when he played for the Bengals at both cornerback and safety. Kaesviharn, who is half white and half Asian, should be a starter and hopefully will officially become one as the 2007 season wears on because he's better than Josh Bullocks, currently ahead of him on the depth chart.


Backup LB Troy Evans is the only other white defensive player on the roster.


NUMBER OF WHITE STARTERS: 8


APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF WHITE PLAYERS ON 53 MAN ROSTER: 17


GRADE: D
 

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Last year the Saints started 9 whites and had their best season ever (big surprise). They are down one this year (8) but when they played the Colts there were many white subs who got playing time. The Saints might be the whitest NFC team this year.
 

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Saints | Reis signed
Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:32:15 -0700

TitansOnline.com reports the New Orleans Saints have signed free-agent S Chris Reis (Saints).


they released the immortal Jay Bellamy
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Reis is active tonight.
 

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where is Kevin Kaesviharn?!?!?!


not only is he an excellent, physical corner when given the opportunity, he is also aball hawking playmaker at either safety spot. yet for some reason, despite the pathetic secondary of the Saints, he can't see the field.
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the Bengals are sure missing him, and the drunken white fans are finallyadmitting it now that he is gone...
It could be the defense misses Kevin Kaesviharn, a safety who more often than not seemed to be in the right spot at the right time in pass coverage. Kaesviharn signed as a free agent with New Orleans.
 
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Jimmy Chitwood said:
where is Kevin Kaesviharn?!?!?!


not only is he an excellent, physical corner when given the opportunity, he is also a ball hawking playmaker at either safety spot. yet for some reason, despite the pathetic secondary of the Saints, he can't see the field.
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the Bengals are sure missing him, and the drunken white fans are finally admitting it now that he is gone...
It could be the defense misses Kevin Kaesviharn, a safety who more often than not seemed to be in the right spot at the right time in pass coverage. Kaesviharn signed as a free agent with New Orleans.
There's no excuse!
 

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Take away the "Snow Patrol" and the Saints are just another very black team, and a bad one at that. Sean Payton showed some promise initially but at this point he's just another run of the mill Caste Systemcoach.
 

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Saints to Rotate Receivers


After losing their fourth game of the season, Saints HC Sean Payton said that the team will rotate their receivers opposite WR Marques Colston moving forward.

As if the receiving options couldn't get any worse, now owners are going to have to guess which one, besides Colston, will be the best fantasy option every week. Colston hasn'tlived up to his offseason hypethis year either.


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Say Sean, whatever happened to Mike Hass, Chase Lyman, Aaron Hosack and Chris Horn? Oh that's right, you purged them in order to make room for the wonderful group of receivers you have now.
 

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Saints' are on a 3 game winning streak and trying to even their record to 4-4 this week against Jacksonville.

Their remaining schedule has some soft teams---

10 STL 1:00 PM ET
11 @HOU 1:00 PM ET
12 @CAR 1:00 PM ET
13 TB 1:00 PM ET
14 @ATL 8:30 PM ET
15 ARI 1:00 PM ET
16 PHI 1:00 PM ET
17 @CHI 1:00 PM ET
Next Game: Sun, November 4 vs Jacksonville Jaguars

With half the season remaining, the scrubs are going to be battling for the wild card spot!
 

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Drew Brees' is a beast!

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The Saints' might just win the NFC South.
 

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WR Robert Meachem was the Saints' first round pick this year. He had only one good year out of four at Tennessee but he ran a fast 40 at the Combine, and if you're black that's all it takes to go in the first round (see, among many other examples that could be cited: Williamson, Troy). Meachem is so bad that he was made inactive for all 16 Saints games this season despite all the money he's being paid. I wonder if Mike Hass (royally screwed by the Saints)looks atthings like this and fully comprehends that there's only one reason he doesn't get the chance to play in the NFL.
 

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Nice post about Meacham, Don.

Somehow whenever "speed demon" WR's like Williamson (watch his drop against Denver, it's aweful) and Meacham (who wasnt even dominant in college) get drafted...I wonder what great white WR should have his roster spot.

I don't feel bad for any of these idiot coaches. Sean Payton seemed like he loved white players last pre-season...until he cut 3 white wideouts and kept complete garbage like Meacham and Lance Moore...as well as drop-machine-retreads like Terrence Copper, Devery Henderson, and David Patten.

The fact that we're still having the "Mike Hass" discussion is all too sickening, because we all knew it was going to happen at the watered-down, phony NFL level.
 

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Payton also waived Aaron Hosack this preseason after cutting the three white WRs last year. Hosackis basically a taller version of Hass. Hass, Lyman, Hosack and Horn would make a better and deeper receiving corps than any team has in the NFL.
 

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I read an article today that said the Saints need to improve on defense. 'Can they get any worse?' he said. I bet the Snow Patrol will be gone next year.
 

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"'Can they get any worse?' he said. I bet the Snow Patrol will be gone next year."

If they are gone next year, then Sean Payton's job will be the next thing to go....as the Saints would go 0-16 should they bring back their "all-afflete" defense.
 

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Well this doesn't appear to be quite as bad as the Ray Lewis incident where one of his best friends killed a man with Ray standing right in the vicinity which resulted in the victims blood on Lewis car.

This appears to be a night club brawl that got out of hand which resulted in one of the peers Grant was with following someone out of the club and shooting them dead. This is more guilt by association, where as Lewis was alleged by the prosecutor to have just stood there while his friend killed someone.

Ray Lewis the murdering fool then made a statement that "the media wants to bring me down" "It's all about Ray Lewis to em" "It's all about Ray Lewis, this is not my fault." I never heard him apologize once in the media about the victim.

Then the murdering fool goes on to play the race card saying along the lines that Steve McNair wouldn't have been treated the way he was by Tennessee if he was a white veteran like Brett Favre. This had nothing to do with race at all, but Ray Lewis and his brothas are always the victim.

The "Numerous Felon's League"=NFL
 

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Looks like Kevin Kaesviharn will open the season as the starting FS, but only because Josh Bullocks had off-season knee surgery. All Kaesviharn does when he plays is make lots of tackles and big plays, exactly what teams want from a DB.
 

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If the Saints first preseason game is any indication, Todd Blythe has zero chance of making the team. He played only a bit toward the end of the fourth quarter. Clearly he has inferior talent when compared to the likes of Devery Henderson and Terrance Copper.
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The Saints may have the "Snow Patrol" -- or two-thirds of one this season -- but they have no placefor any white receivers. Mike Hass, Aaron Hosack, Chase Lyman, Chris Horn. . . all purged previously by Sean Payton. While Horn was nothing special, Hass, Hosack, Lymanand Blythe all are/were of NFL starting caliber. Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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i dunno, he showed some good blocking ability during running plays where some of the other receivers seemed to take the plays off, when meachem had that long run he had a good block in, but the commentators said skyler green laid out a good block for him (which was a half ass attempt) and he and meachum seemed to be pretty good friends, devery henderson has a hamstring injury, arrington has turf toe which could be serious, lance moore might not have a job, so things are looking good for blythe, it sucks that the one pass thrown to him was a bad one from palko, skyler green had several thrown his way and dropped most of them but one, but the one he did catch it looked like he pointed at todd blythe as to say "this is my spot on the roster not yours" only my speculation though
 

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ive watched blythe in training camp and he seems special, way more than the overrated adrian arrington, he doesn't take any crap either, him and a cornerback got into it one day and they would stop fighting and keep walking and blythe would throw another punch at the guy, can't remember the cb's name
 

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but im more worried about the saints offensive line, majority black, their pass blocking and run blocking was terrible, first team that is, and the white guy (stinchcomb) gets weeded out as the weak link and too many plays where they didnt have a lead blocker, which wouldve helped the black rb's tremendously, but it looks like karney has dropped weight, hopefully that means they will use him as a weapon more, wishful thinking i guess
 

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dwid said:
ive watched blythe in training camp and he seems special


Unfortunately, when it comes to an undrafted, "slow" white receiver, that doesn't mean a damn thing in the NFL.
 

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yeah, well he's definetly not slow, hes burned a few corners, i think hes a little faster than arrington, he does have some problems at the los though, but arrington has more from what ive seen, hes just not getting as many reps even in practice, which sucks, and people are saying hes too skinny and lanky compared to arrington, he weighs like 25 more pounds than arrington, and people's comeback at training camp is "WELL ARRINGTON LOOKS MORE RIPPED", its like arguing with the dumbest of the dumb, worse than this argument i had with a kid on youtube on who was better, ralph bolden or sam mcguffie


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Mcguffie isnt as fast as bolden when it comes to flat out speed

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hes definetly good, but not flat out faster than mcguffie, the link you sent me with better quality he looked good but still just below mcguffie, i mean his 40 time is 4.43 and mcguffie is 4.32, but im not taking anything away from bolden, hes good, 4.43 is still very very fast i couldn't find any shuttle times on him to compare or cone drills

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Mcguffie may be faster but boldens field vision is better!


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i would counter that by saying its obvious mcguffies vision is better and bolden's line is probably better but you'll just keep coming up with ways to say bolden is better! "BOLDEN CAN MAKE HIMSELF INVISIBLE TO DEFENDERS!" "bolden can defy the laws of gravity by not being brought down by tackles"


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Bolden was part of one of the best HS teams ever, not his fault he had a good line. There a plays when bolden does things on his own..you just havent seen any of his real highlights


dwid1984 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide

where are his real highlights? why would they not choose to put those online, its a HIGHLIGHT not "almost his best plays, but were not gonna put the ones showing his best playing abliity

and that is the end of the argument, a highlight film missing the REAL highlights, amazing...
 
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