2007 Lions

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  1. Don Wassall

    Don Wassall Administrator Staff Member

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    Mike Furrey "came out of nowhere" in 2006 to finish second in the NFL with 98 receptions. The wide receiver position should be white dominated, but most potential white stars at this position are continually filtered out through high school and college, with the NFL finishing off the job. But now and then one perseveres and falls through the cracks like Furrey.


    The NFL could and should be filled with "Mike Furrey types," in fact white players with considerably more talent than Furrey. Furrey's success came about only because the Lions hired Mike Martz to be their offensive coordinator. Furrey had been a backup when Martz coached the Rams (along with Kevin Curtis and Dane Looker) and Martz brought him to his new team and gave him the chance to blossom.


    Unfortunately, outside of Furrey the Lions are your standard Caste System team, all black on defense and white at quarterback, tight end, and a couple of o-line spots.


    Jon Kitna threw for over 4,000 yards in 2006 and is highly regarded in fantasy football circles going into the new season, but in a sneering kind of way, ala "the Lions offense is so good under Mike Martz's scheme that even Jon Kitna can succeed in it." Kitna had a superb 2003 season as the starter for the Bengals then gracefully stepped aside to allow Carson Palmer to take over. He's not an all-time great, but he's no chump either.


    Detroit has a troika of whites at tight end in Casey Fitzsimmons, Sean McHugh, and Dan Campbell. They will do more blocking than receiving, and will also line up at blocking fullback when required for certain plays.


    On the line, 7th year man Jeff Backus out of Michigan is the starting LT. Dominic Raiola is the center. Kitna may spend a lot of his time on his back again this season as the team brought over such flops as George Foster from the Broncos and Edwin Mulitalo from the Ravens to start on the line. White backups include Stephen Peterman and Don Muhlbach.


    Kitna's backups are J. T. O'Sullivan and Dan Orlovsky. Rookie Drew Stanton out of Michigan State, who should have first shot to be Kitna's successor, was placed on IR.


    The Lions have but two white players on defense. Iowa graduate Jared DeVries has spent his entire nine year career with Detroit as a backup end.


    MLB Teddy Lehman won the Butkus Award while with Oklahoma as the nation's best college linebacker and followed that up with a strong rookie season with Detroit in 2004. He was slowed by injuries the past two seasons and although healthy is currently backing up the less-than legendary journeyman Paris Lenon on the team's depth chart.


    NUMBER OF WHITE STARTERS: 5 (but will fall to 4 as soon as heralded rookie Calvin Johnson replaces Mike Furrey as one of the 2 starting receivers)


    APPROXIMATE NUMBER OF WHITE PLAYERS ON 53 MAN ROSTER: 15


    GRADE: F
     
  2. jaxvid

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    Calvin Johnson got injured against the Eagles, how long is still a questiion. If he misses time it will be good for Furrey. Furrey has really been squeezed for looks this year with not 2 but 3 other guys ahead of him. Shawn McDonald has been a frequent target of Kitna's along with Johnson and Roy Williams.
     
  3. backrow

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    he's not going to miss any time, or one week tops. Furrey will continue catching 4-6 balls for 40-60 yards for now [​IMG]
     
  4. jaxvid

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    Johnson did not play and Furrey was 5 for 91 as I predicted so ha! backrow---go to to the backrow. [​IMG]
     
  5. Stonewall

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    I saw Detroit play live for the first time last Sunday. Furrey is a much better receiver than McDonald. McDonald dropped a number of key balls, culminating with the ball that hit off his hands and was intercepted to seal the game.


    Black receivers drop so many balls its reached the point where QBs should be charged for 2 types of interceptions: 1) errant throws 2) drops/miscues by black receivers!!
     
  6. jaxvid

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    McDonald has taken most of Furreys opportunities this year. I thought Calvin Johnson was going to rob him of his touches but SURPRISE they found yet another marginal black receiver to give his yards to.

    McDonald's year end totals will be interesting. he should have 2006 Furrey-like numbers but he won't because he drops too many balls. Kitna is a retard for throwing to this guy although Roy Williams is a notorious ball dropper too (if "ball-dropper" isn't considered the norm for a black receiver).

    The Lions offense has been destroyed by dropped passes, but then again what offense hasn't. As Stonewall suggested there should be a seperate catagory for drops/miscues by black receivers, if this site had the resources to track those numbers it would blow the cover on the caste system (at least at receiver).
     
  7. Stonewall

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    Jaxvid, can you tell me a little about the NFL career of Brock Olivo? I was living in Kansas City back in 1994 when he was the starting tailback at the University of Missouri. He was a very good back (started as a freshman I believe), fast and strong with moves and quickness.I remember watching him play for Detroit on special teams.


    Probably a dumb question, but was he ever given any kind of chance at running back for the Lions?
     
  8. jaxvid

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    Olivo never saw the field as a RB. Like many "white special team demons" he was listed as a running back for paper purposes only. I remember looking at the roster one year and seeing a white guy listed as a running back and wondering who the hell he was.

    I just checked and he had 2 carries in his 4 NFL years and 7 receptions.
     
  9. backrow

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    from rotoworld.com

    "Lions DE Kalimba Edwards has lost his starting job.

    Edwards is healthy and active, but has lost his starting job to Jared DeVries. Dewayne White has moved over to right defensive end to take on left tackles. Edwards will probably be used as a situational pass rusher."

    [​IMG]
     
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    I had the game on today while I was busy with other things, but I did get a chance to watch a video collage of Calvin Johnson dropping and short arming passes sometime in the second quarter. I really haven't followed him much this year but I was wondering if this has been the norm for the "greatest" college WR prospect in the last 50 years.

    In other news, the actual greatest college WR prospect in the last 50 years, Mike Haas still remains blackballed from being given an NFL opportunity in a regular season game....
     
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    Johnson had 2 blatant drops, 2 passes defended that he could have gotten and interception came off a throw to him.

    Furrey on the other hand was targeted twice in the whole game [​IMG]
     
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    Why isn't Teddy Lehman a starter? He started as a rookie and now is only a situational player?
     
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    Lehman was hurt and took a while to come back. In the meantime he lost his starting job to the current crop of black linebackers that give up about 30 points a game. If he was out there then everybody would be complaining about how the Lions defense needs to get "faster" and more "athletic". Now they just suck.
     
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    Anyone notice the camera's showing Shaun Rodgers running off the field during a Packers drive? They don't want to say anything but "Big Baby" as he is nicknamed is so fat and out of shape that he can't play more then a few plays at full strength. He has resisted any attempt to get himself in condition to play. He's supposed to be a key componant of the defense but is just a symbol of the pampered spoiled black athlete. Contrast that pig to Kampman and Devries two flat bellied muscleman that play hard every play. If I can see this watching at home why the hell can't coaches see it watching the game film? [​IMG]
     
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    good point, jaxvid. i noticed that as well.

    if these coaches want players to pass the 'eye test' like so many claim they do, how does black fat ass Rodgers get the nod over much fitter, more dynamic players?

    one can really see the difference on the opposing offensive lines, as well. Detroit's fat black sumos were huffing and puffing as Kampman was running amok, while the Packers' o-line of svelt, bad asses was thoroughly demolishing the jelly-bellied fat backs of Detroit's inner city. [​IMG]
     
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    "Contrast that pig to Kampman and Devries two flat bellied muscleman that play hard every play."

    Hahaha, pig, that's really funny. I'm surprised nobody here makes fun of other NFL fatties with b*tch tits such as Jamarcus Russell and Lendale White. Those two are actually supposed to be "skill players" with the ability to run.
     
  17. bigunreal

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    I've commented on this before, but the growing number of fat, out of shape black players just amazes me. What is more amazing is how the announcers continue to make the idiotic claim that the league is filled with fantastic athletes. During the game Cris Collingsworth was announcing yesterday (think it was the Colts-Falcons), he was breathlessly bragging about how "this league just has too many fast and athletic players now," at the same time that one of the many blubberly black sumos was down on the ground and had to be helped to his feet (not because he was really injured, it was because like most obese people, he couldn't rise up by himself). It was hilarious to listen to Collingsworth's typical Caste mantra, while seeing the diametrically opposing reality before you.

    I think that the slew of fat black players in the league bothers me more than anything right now, especially because not a single "journalist" will mention it. Talk about the emperor wearing no clothes!
     
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    I think what bugs me the most about all of the fast ass black lineman is that they are always considered "fast". Yes when a team wants to get "faster" on the o-line they go out and get a sumo sized black lard butt. There is no way in hell those clowns are fast at anything except answering the dinner bell. It's a stupid stereotype that has no basis in fact, makes no sense, and is clearly not true to anyone that watches. What the heck is going on?
     
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    Detroit media is reporting that Lions owner William Clay Ford "requested" that the team throw the ball more to Calvin Johnson. That explains all of the forced passes to him. It also explains why they lost. He killed them early then racked up some numbers when the game was essentially over. However the media is using his good second half numbers to assert that Ford's interference was a GOOD thing. Consider the Lions playoff hopes over.
     
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    The other constant comment from the jock-sniffers that particularly irritates me is that "this is no longer just an in-season job- it's a year round job." They then tell us how these affletes "work out" all year long. Yeah, that must be some workout. Seriously, how stupid do they think we are? Trying to maintain that the likes of Keith Traylor, Sean Rogers, etc. are "athletes" in any sense of the word as we know it is completely laughable.

    Remember when they used to ridicule golfers before Tiger Woods came along? I maintain that the most out of shape golfer you can name- Craig Stadler, Raymond Floyd, John Daly- was in much better physical condition than any of the scores of black sumos that now litter NFL rosters.

    The reality is that clearly NFL training camps must not be very hard now, or all those fat black players would either die of heart attacks or actually lose a lot of weight and look at least somewhat like real athletes. As for in-season practices, how difficult can they be? What other "sport" has all those players with huge layers of fat hanging off them? Even the few fat baseball players, who were mostly pitchers (think Mickey Lolich or Wilbur Wood) were not in the sad physical condition that these obese black players are in. I wonder if they just don't really make any of the players run or exercise, or if there are "special rules" for the black sumos. Maybe they now have Affirmative Action-style practices.
     
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    from kffl.com:

    Lions | Williams questions some of Martz's calls
    Sat, 24 Nov 2007 06:35:53 -0800

    Nicholas J. Cotsonika, of the Detroit Free Press, reports Detroit Lions WR Roy Williams was asked during an interview with WFN-AM if the players weren't on the same page with offensive coordinator Mike Martz. Williams said, "Um, we're just not executing, and at the same time, sometimes some of the calls aren't right at the time." When asked if players have any input, Williams said QB Jon Kitna did. However, when Kitna would try to step out on a limb, Martz told him, "I've been doing this for 34 years." Williams added, "He's won Super Bowls, so he makes the calls, and that's what we talked about as a group."
     
  22. Don Wassall

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    Ya just gotta love the NFL, filling its many affirmative action slots with high character guys. Yesterday a 340 pound lineman on the Jaguars managed to get shot. Today Rudi Johnson is accusing Tatum Bell of stealing his luggage. Tomorrow, well who knows. . . maybe a playerwill be accused ofconspiring to murder, oh wait that was Dennis Northcutt last week. . .
    <H1 =storyTitle>Johnson accuses Bell in luggage theft; Bell calls situation misunderstanding</H1>


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3567561
     
  23. jaxvid

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    Sh*t man black stole his job why can't he take his luggage!!!
     
  24. Van_Slyke_CF

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    Maybe Bell was practicing for his next job as a bellboy. [​IMG]

    From the article:

    "Bell, however, claimed the situation was a misunderstanding. Bell told the Detroit Free Press that defensive end Victor DeGrate, whom the Lions released Saturday, had asked Bell to pick up his bags for him. Bell said he picked up the bags, not realizing they weren't DeGrate's."

    "I wasn't thinking or nothing," Bell told the newspaper. "I just grabbed the backpack and grabbed the other bag. They weren't in nobody's locker or nothing like that. They were just sitting there by the computer area right there. I grabbed them and put them in the car."

    So if they "weren`t in nobody`s locker" and "were just sitting there by the computer," whatever made Bell think they were Degrate`s bags?

    Nice try at a cover story, pinhead.
     
  25. Solomon Kane

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    A misunderstanding! Is that why all the contents are missing including credit cards and 200$ Cash?

    (Hey, a man's gotta have spending money...)

    I wish the victim would prosecute him...this deserves some time in jail.
     

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