2007 Buffalo Bills

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  1. C Darwin

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    Marshawn Lynch (2nd running back picked in 2007)is averaging 1.8 y/c in three games this preseason. I think it's fair to also blame the Bills O-line, they are just as black as the bills running backs.

    Wire, Wendling, and Leonherd are all doing very well, but not catching a break to start.

    2nd string DE Ryan Denney broke his foot and will miss a significant part of the season.

    Posluszny is a beast. He's still learning, but he's just all over the field. (like Z Thomas, but bigger)
     
  2. JTJTJT

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    I think the Bills are trending more white than most teams as they drafted 5 white guys. Its odd they have all black OL though.
     
  3. whiteCB

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    Yeah but they sure do love those white boys on the d-line!!!
     
  4. white is right

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    The Bills have had the philosphy of you can't teach size, but the problem with their morbidly obese linemen is you can't teach them ability either.... [​IMG]
     
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    This is precisely why I don't expect the Bills' team to have a good season. They should follow Green Bay's example (a cold weather team with a very White O-Line).

    Also, what White QB wants to see his O-line filled with blacks and his opponents mostly (or all) black D-lines? He might get confused as to who his protectors are and who's there to sack him. [​IMG] [​IMG] Edited by: Deadlift
     
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    FROM THE SI WEBSITE, UNDER 'MOST SURPRISING DEFENSIVE ROOKIE':
    Paul Posluszny has made an immediate impact on the Buffalo Bills' defense. The second-round pick has been the team's leading tackler and has been an impact player in the middle. He fell out of the first round due to disappointing workouts, but his play during preseason has been stellar. Teams will regret passing on this solid "football player" in favor of better athletes.[​IMG]
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    eww [​IMG]
     
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    The linebacker spot was getting dangerously close to achieving all-black status going the way of the cornerback position. But, thank God for Brain Urlacher. He has made it politically OK and maybe even trendy to once again have a dominant athletic white man roaming the middle of the defense. Would Paul Posluszny or Chad Greenway even be given a chance to start in todays NFL if it hadn't been for Brian Urlacher? Is it any coincidence that both have been given a chance to start basically as rookies the year after the Bears went to the Superbowl?

    Anybody who says that teams only draft and play the best players with no regard to media pressure and/or social engineering are just full of it.
     
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    I tend to agree with this post. After decades of being involved with organized sports, i've come to the conclusion that the decision-makers are not always the smartest people and the decisions made are not always for the best reasons. Decades of observation of coaches and athletic directors has lead me to the impression that the people who get hired are not necessarily the best, but those who are a bit better at practicing the "conventional wisdom" or are good at having the image of competence, when they are in fact, only adequate, at best. This is, of course, referring to high school athletics, but I think it is also true at all levels.

    What we too often have is people in charge who are just better at "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" when the isue is not the deck chairs, but the gash in the hull. So, being really good at rearranging deck chairs is not really the right qualification for running the show. Therefore, we have situations such as thinking that the key to having better linebacking is to have black linebackers, just because there are some very good black linebackers, rather than any person who is good at playing linebacker.
     
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    You have to remember that NFL football is conservative. It's all about not taking risks. And what risk is any coach taking by fielding a 100% black football team? If the team fails, modern thinking says it can't be because the coach put the wrong players on the field. Every player was black, so they were the best availiable. In that way the coach has eliminated one angle of criticism.

    Putting white players on the field opens any coach to criticism. That is the truth in 2007.
     
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    I agree with you 100%. And, much of that is due to the fact that the "conventional wisdom" is that black athletes are always better, which is not true. But, human nature being what it is, perception is reality.
     
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    Highschoolcoach,

    I've mentioned this before, but the discrimination against white athletes starts before high school. I've been involved in coaching youth sports for over a decade (both boys and girls soccer and basketball). Especially in basketball, the preferential treatment black kids receive is astonishing. They make the select and AAU teams just by showing up, regardless of how well they can actually play. If they have any talent, they are allowed to circumvent the rules just like their older black peers. I have watched 9 and 10 year old black girls knock little white girls over, and foul with reckless abandon, without the referees doing anything to control them. I can only imagine how much worse the favoritism towards blacks is at the high school level. It's all disgraceful, and puts the lie to the notion that all coaches are primarily concerned with instilling the proper values in their players (at the youth level) or fairly selecting the best players (at the high school, college and pro levels). I've seen the same thing in soccer, where hispanic kids are assumed to be more skilled than whites. The hispanic style of play in soccer is similar to the black style of play in basketball; flash and style over substance, with lots of selfishness and attitude thrown in for good measure. I've seen other coaches rave about hispanic players that were accomplishing little other than walking (not running) up and down the field, while refusing to hold their assigned position. They can juggle the ball well in practice, however.

    We all know that, if winning games was the most important consideration for pro football coaches, then Matt Jones would be the focal point of the Jacksonville offense. David Garrard would not be a starting QB for any team. Mike Hass would be starting for the Bears. Brian Leonard would have been drafted by either the Titans or the Packers, and would be their starting RB. Dustin Fox would be a starting CB for somebody. Dallas Clark would be a prolific receiver in some offense. Cade McNown and Tim Couch would be in the middle of long, productive NFL careers. So would Luke Staley, Brock Forsey, Jesse Lumsden and many other white RBs. Jereme Urban and John Standeford would be strong contributors to some offense. Alas, we are stuck in the nightmare that is Don King's America, which means almost all-black teams, with "stars" like T.O. and "Ocho Cinco," fawned over by wimpy white jock-sniffers posing as "journalists," "officiated" by wimpy whites who permit them to do whatever they want, and cheered on enthusiastically by drunk white fans who are absolutely, positively in love with them. At least Michael Vick will be going to prison. That's pretty cool.
     
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    Not sure about this statement. Lots of coaches have lost their job because they have insisted on project black quarterbacks. A coach that wins with white players (who are percieved as unathletic) will likely be considered a genius.
    Just look at a couple of white dominated teams in college football - like Utah and Boise State. Their former coaches are considered geniuses and offered the best new coaching positions in the country so that they can recruit "real athletes." Invariably, coaches like these have less success with their new affletes on their teams.

    So then that begs the question; why do coaches field coal-black teams? I think its a comibination of social engineering factors and pressure from within the team. The same reason white people willfully attend diversity training and either shut their mouth or nod their head in agreement - they're scared sh!tless of being called a name.
     
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    Cade McNown could have really done some good in the league. He and Couch weren't as black as McNabb or Akili let-me-throw-the-ball-away Smith, so they had less chance to prove themselves.

    McNown throws an interception? Fundamental decision making problems.

    McNabb fumbles AGAIN? Leave him alone. He's a prototype for a new era (read: black) quarterback.
     
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    [​IMG]Well said, as always. So many white football players have been and continue to be sacrificed to the current system. And the ones we talk about arejust the tip ofa huge iceberg of athletes who have been screwed over starting at the Pop Warner level. It's so sad the way nearly all whites have been conditioned tonot only goalong with the anti-white program but to openly embrace it. Whites are a great great people but are so naive and malleable.
     
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    What NFL coach lost his job because he insisted on a black quarterback?
     
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    Dan Reeves & Jim Mora Jr, haha, I wonder what player had both of those coaches? [​IMG]
     
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    Keith Ellison, starting WLB is out indefinitely with an ankle injury, Coy Wire will take his spot in the starting line-up. Bills will have 5 white starters on defense with LB Stamer, DT Anderson and safeties Leonhard and Wendling also in the mix. i am guessing that we will see 6-7 whites on the field at certain points of the season.
     
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    That number of white players on defense is astonishing and will really be the story of the season. I can't remember any team being remotely close to that number. Anyone else? Don?
     
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    The Browns and Falcons have had five white starters on defense in recent years. Tennessee had four white starters and abunch of white backups just two seasons ago but most are now gone. The Bills defense should be the whitest in some time, esp. considering that the white backups are all quality players, so yes an actual white majority defense may be on the field at times with Ellison injured.
     
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    Bills O-Line achieves some diversity.
    Butler Named Starting Right Guard
    http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5168

    He missed the majority of training camp and three of the four games in the preseason, but Brad Butler's hamstring isn't going to keep him out of the starting lineup. In a surprise move head coach Dick Jauron named the second-year lineman the starting right guard for his club Sunday.

    "Brad Butler is going to be our starting right guard as we go into this game," said Jauron. "We talked about him all through camp and thought he had a chance to compete there and we wanted to get him back healthy. When he got back healthy he looked good and played well in the game. We just think he gives us our best chance there as a starting guard. Nothing against those other guys, they did a nice job but we just went with the decision that we thought was the best."

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    Bills (14)- Denver (15):

    Ko Simpson broke his ankle in the first quarter, so Leonherd practically got to play the whole game. He was stellar. Leonhard and Posluszny lead both teams in tackles with 8 each. Leonherd has a big interception return, weaving through the ocean of arm tacklers. He got 30+ yards or so. Coy Wire left the game with an MCL sprain, status for next game isunknown.

    For the Broncos, Stokley had 3 rec. for 65 yds and had the longest reception of the game with a 34 yrd catch.

    It was a good game for fans of white players.
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    I only caught the end of the game and didn't know about this... [​IMG] ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Kevin Everett had surgery Sunday evening, hours after the Buffalo Bills reserve tight end showed no signs of movement after sustaining a severe neck injury in the team's season opener against Denver.

    Kevin Everett

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    A trainer attends to Kevin Everett after he showed no signs of consciousness following a helmet-to-helmet hit when he tackled Denver's Domenik Hixon during a kickoff to open the second half.

    Bills spokesman Scott Berchtold said he was informed by the team's medical staff the player went into surgery at a Buffalo hospital at about 8 p.m. Berchtold said he had no further information, and didn't know whether Everett had shown any signs of movement since he was driven off the field in an ambulance.

    According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, doctors in Buffalo have told members of the Bills that bone chips were removed during surgery. Everett is stabilized and is on a respirator in intensive care.

    At 9:45 p.m., as he was leaving Millard Fillmore Gates Hospital, Bills' tight end Ryan Neufeld told Buffalo's WIVB-TV the surgery "went well as far as we can tell and he's recovering right now."

    General manager Marv Levy said doctors informed the team that it's too early to determine the severity of the injury and that they will know more after monitoring the player overnight.

    "Certainly, we feel the injury is serious, but I don't want to speculate, and that's what the doctors told us," Levy told The Associated Press. "They told us to wait to hear from them before making any speculative announcement."

    Coach Dick Jauron said immediately following the game that the player sustained a cervical spine injury, but wouldn't discuss the severity of the injury.

    The player's agent Brian Overstreet was not immediately available for comment.

    Everett fell immediately to the ground and showed no signs of consciousness after a helmet-to-helmet hit when he tackled Denver's Domenik Hixon during a kickoff to open the second half. Everett was placed on a backboard with his head and body immobilized, and carefully loaded into an ambulance at the Broncos' 30.

    The game was delayed for about 15 minutes, and the Bills gathered at the sideline while doctors attended to the player.

    Everett's injury cast a pall over the Bills following a season-opening 15-14 loss, with several players expressing concern about their teammate.

    "It was real hard," cornerback Terrence McGee said. "I watched the whole thing and he never moved. ... It's real sad to see him go off on a stretcher, but we hope he's OK."

    "It's real sad," added receiver Roscoe Parrish, who played with Everett at the University of Miami. "When something like that happens to a close friend of yours, and you know how much he loves football, it bothers you."

    Denver players expressed concern, including kicker Jason Elam, who kicked the winning field goal as time ran out.

    Before taking questions after the game, Elam said: "What we heard is not good, so for our whole team, our prayers go out to him."

    Buffalo's third-round draft pick in 2005, Everett missed his entire rookie season with a knee injury, and spent most of his second season limited to special teams duty.

    The Bills liked Everett's 6-foot-4 frame, and were counting on him to play a role in their passing attack this season.

    Buffalo also lost three defensive starters to injury.

    Starting free safety Ko Simpson is out indefinitely after breaking his left ankle. Starting cornerback Jason Webster is out indefinitely after breaking his forearm in the fourth quarter. And then there's linebacker Coy Wire, filling in for injured starter Keith Ellison, who sprained his knee in the first quarter.

    Simpson was hurt when he had his feet cut out from beneath him by teammate Jason Webster as the two were attempting to tackle Broncos receiver Javon Walker. Simpson fell immediately to the ground and was unable to put any weight on his left foot.

    Team trainers were forced to lift the player onto the cart and he was taken for X-rays.

    Buffalo's fourth-round pick in the 2006 draft, Simpson started 15 games last season, and was a member of the NFL's youngest safety tandem, playing alongside rookie first-round pick Donte Whitner.

    Third-year player Jim Leonhard took over for Simpson.

    Wire was examined on the sideline, but made his way to the locker room on his own. Reserve Mario Haggan replaced Wire.

    It's unclear when Webster was hurt. The Bills had signed the seven-year NFL veteran last spring to take over as starter after losing Nate Clements to San Francisco in free agency.

    Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
     
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    now that Simpson is done for the year, Bills will probably start Leonhard at safety and bring Wendling in a lot, grooming him to start. plus DiGiorgio seems to be a leading candidate for now vacated LB spot. so it might be 3 whites on the d-line, 2 whites at LB and at times 2 DBs... what more can we ask of them! adn if Wire comes back before either of the black injured linebackers, we just might see all white LBs... although that might be very optimistic, plus caste whores would cry wolf, 7 whites on defense, oh noes!
     
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    Jim Leonhard was all over the field with 13 tackles at safety, and an INT! Now he'll be starting the remainder of the season. I promise you, Jim WILL NOT LOSE his starting job when Simpson returns (or Wedling challenges him for it). I watched nearly every game this guy played at Wisconsin, I'm positive that the NFL will realize that Leonhard is the real deal by season's end...they would never admit it, however.

    This very white defense looked great against a decent Denver offense. What guts by the coaching staff to actually draft, sign, and play all these deserving athletes! If they had some more white offensive lineman, I'd be a Bills fan!

    Prediction --- Paul Poz, Leonhard, and Schoebl will be Pro-Bowl considerations this year.
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