’Kramer’ Loses It

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Take the poll. I did, and was surprised at the results:

Is Richard's racist:

Yes 60%
No 40%

95, 929 people have voted so far.

I have to say I am VERY surprised that 40% of over 95,000 people did not think Richard's outburst was NOT racist. I'm not sure how much the vote might be skewed by hackers or trolls, but still, it's an amazing number.
 

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What about the black members of the audience spewing, "Cracker, white boy, etc." Are they not racist?

I saw a behind the scenes filming of Seinfeld. Richards may be goofy in character, but I have seen him flip out at the other actors for messing up lines. He has a temper.
 

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Despite his looks and the character heplayed on Seinfeld, I've read that Richards isn't Jewish.


That was a nasty outburst. I'm all for people being as politically incorrect as possible, but that was pointless, merely conforming to the stereotype of the mindless and ignorant white racist.
 

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I thought it was great. About time someone told loud, rude, obnoxious blacks to shut the hell up! Man, he was in a rage! Definitely some pent up hostility there.

Paul Rodriguez said that Richards is Jewish. He said something to the effect of, "It's sad that someone of Jewish faith would say something like this so soon after Mel Gibson's remarks." Also, I believe Jason Alexander once said that Seinfeld was about "four Jews in New York," or something like that. (Although the Elaine character wasn't Jewish for some reason. I never understood that.)

Despite the sickening Jewish liberalism that is forced down our throats everyday, it's a thinly veiled secret that there's a lot of hostility and resentment between blacks and Jews, especially in urban areas like New York. Edited by: JD074
 
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sounds like some black guy was heckling him and that triggered the outburst.
Black people have to learn to behave in public.
 

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screamingeagle, don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen, because for the majority, it never will. They will only pull our behavior down to our level if we let them, and to a great extent we already have.
 

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He is likely has Jewish ancestors judging by his look, but has a different religion so he tries to avoid such classification.

I've found claims that he is Jewish, Scottish,and Italian. He could be a mix of all of those. He is a Freemason though.

Once society has classified you as white, it really doesn't matter what your ancestors are, especially if it is a white-black issue.

It is interesting that Kramer's original name in the show was "Kessler", much more Jewish.


He still shouldn't go after a particular heckler like that. He's right, his act hasn't been good after Seinfeld. If he just showed a touch of class and went about his act while the heckler was thrown out, the heckler would have looked bad instead of him.



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Wow, that was something, but I must admit, I know what its like to have them talking. Maybe it was uncalled for, but they should've kept themselves quiet. Stupid idiots! By the way, I voted no!
 

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The older version of Jewhoo (no searchable database available now, just a cranky blog) listed Richards as gentile. The other three Seinfeld stars were Jewish. Dreyfus is the daugher of a billionaire commodities trader.

Richards is talented at physical comedy. He worked very hard on his bits on Seinfeld. IMHO he was the key to the series working.

'Curb Your Enthusiasm' was Larry David's show after Seinfeld, of which he was co-creator. There is a lot of ambivalent, even negative, material about blacks. Seinfeld was criticized for being relatively black-free, set in a city at least 25% black.

Maybe it's wishful thinking, but the tide has turned when it comes to all this unearned love blacks have been receiving from the media. 'Crash', with blacks almost as awful as they are in real life, made money and won best picture Oscar. 'Freedomland', where it's all whitey's fault, crashed and burned. Twenty years ago the reverse would have happened.
 

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Sark6354201 said:
Wow... What I really want to know is what they said to him to get him that mad.
Calling him a washed up hasbeen? Most celebrities have big egos that can't take their star waning. What I want to know is what would Jackie Childs say about this........
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Pitbull, to answer your question, yes, to a certain extent, although Chris Rock attacks blacks quite often. He, of course, is able to get away with it.
 

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I was listening to an audio tape of Sam Kinneson back in the 80's. I can't remember if it was a bootleg or if it is available for purchase. But during his routine you could hear a heckler. Kinneson stopped his routine and spent the next five minutes insulting the hecklers mother. He called her everything degrading you can imagine and a lot more. When he was finally finished he said,"So, you still wanna heckle buddy." He destroyed that heckler. If he can insult a hecklers mom, I guess it's anything goes.
 

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I agree with Don. This only makes white people look bad.

Why can't one of these guys rant about how many blacks rob, rape and kill whites? Or about how whites must score 300 points higher on SATs to get ino the same colleges as blacks?

Dropping the "n-bomb" or ranting about Jewish conspiracies is stupid and confirms racist stereotypes about whites.
 

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If the black in the audience was heckling Richards, I'm glad he
unloaded on the guy using the word ni99er. I agree that the word
ni99er should not be thrown around in everyday conversation, but if
a non-black is under a verbal attack from a black, I say let-er-rip!
Holding back on the use of the word ni99er only cranks up the
sensitivity levels in society. This hypersensitivity is a ticket for blacks
to behave in anyway they see fit to seek the "justice" they desire.
The double standard is undeniable. The only thing that saddens me
is that Richards didn't stand up for himself (like the second stripper
in the Duke hoax).

If it were me, I would have said "There was this guy who was
heckling me, so I let him have it. Screw HIM!" Edited by: C Darwin
 

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Isn't heckling common at comedy clubs? Comedians have to expect it and know how to deal with it. I have no idea if Richards is funny or not as a stand-up, but if he was clever he could have disarmed his hecklers by making them look foolish without losing it like that. Make fun of the guy's job, or his intelligence, etc. Plus, it's hard for me to imagine that "Kramer" of Seinfeld fame has any discerning white racial consciousness whatsoever. That was a raving madman at work, nota pioneer in breaking taboos.
 
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AFAIK...

Michael Richards is a physical comedian. He doesn't do stand up. He was/had been recently encouraged to give it a go by Jerry Seinfeld. Seinfeld has since apologized because of the outburst. The audience wasn't laughing very much at Richards, and one of the guy's turned to his friend and said to Richards 'hey ... my friend, doesn't think you're funny' or something like that. That's what set Richards off.

I also agree with you Don, Michael Richards let loose his temper, and most certainly not in a constructive manner!
 
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Don Wassel, I have to agree with you. What is going to kill Richard's career is not the racial insults, but the fact that he seemed to have just fallen apart. Stand up comedians are expected to have a come back. That is what separates the great commedians from the average ones.
 

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screamingeagle said:
Don Wassel, I have to agree with you. What is going to kill Richard's career is not the racial insults, but the fact that he seemed to have just fallen apart. Stand up comedians are expected to have a come back. That is what separates the great commedians from the average ones.
It's true what he said wasn't funny period. Also if he stated he was going to be another dice man he could have gotten away with that, it would have been deemed part of the act. He just came of mean and vindictive. Put me out there and I could have been funnier at that point....
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screamingeagle said:
What is going to kill Richard's career is not the racial insults, but the fact that he seemed to have just fallen apart.


I couldn't disagree more. Many comedians, singers, entertainers and public speakers have been heckled and lost composure. It happens. Losing ones cool in a momentary melt down is not a career killer...using the "N" word is. It is sacrosanct. Only blacks can use the word, often in the most insulting and demeaning ways imaginable, but whites simply cannot. If the words m***a f***a and n****r were suddenlyremoved from the English language, blacks would lose a major chunk of their vocabulary.


I personally hate this double standard. It is just another form of the Caste System used to keep us disempowered.Recently we witnessed a black politician, Harold Ford Sr. refer to a white - HECKLER - as a CRACKER! Where was the outrage? We'd rather sit idly by and piss in our pants than stand up for ourselves. Oh, that's okay Mr. Ford, we understand your frustrations.


Nobody cares when blacks mock and insult us.It is as common as dirt to hear the words white trash, redneck, hill billy, trailer park trash, honkey and cracker used by every racial group. All those words put together don't have the impact of the -N- word, you say. Why? Because we have allowed it. We have sanctified athe -N- word. Hell, blacks have gotten away with murdering white people by claiming they heard the -N - word uttered. How ridiculous!


It burns me up that blacks use the word all day long in every situation, then feign outrage when they hear it from a white man, claiming it brings back memories of chains and cotton fields.
 

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Don Wassall said:
Despite his looks and the character he played on Seinfeld, I've read that Richards isn't Jewish. 


That was a nasty outburst.  I'm all for people being as politically incorrect as possible, but that was pointless, merely conforming to the stereotype of the mindless and ignorant white racist.  <!-- Message ''"" -->


What you have read is CORRECT. Richards was the ONLY character on Seinfield that ISN'T Jewish.
 

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Goldfinger said:
What you have read is CORRECT. Richards was the ONLY character on Seinfield that ISN'T Jewish.

Religion or race?
 
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