Lets look at the big picture

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I'm sensing some anguish out there with Hatton's loss tonite, but I'm thinking my fellow CFer's out there need to look at the big picture. Perhaps because I primarily follow the heavyweight division, I'm looking at a glass that is three quarters full, and I'm not calling it empty. Sure, there will be losses like tonite, or probably on Feb.2 when its also likely that Peter may defeat Maskaev, but on the whole look at whats going on.
There are so many good white heavyweights now that we are now starting to see whites only title eliminators (Valuev vs. Liakachev) for the right to fight a white champion (assuming Chagaev wins over Skelton). In College basketball terms thats like Gonzaga, Duke, BYU and Santa Clara in the final four, or in football terms like Air Force taking on Colorado St in the BCS championship game.
In the other weight classes there seem to be new white champions emerging all the time, Bute, Pavlik etc. Whites will not win every fight, but lets keep looking at the big picture, because it is very, very pretty.
 
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Referendum you makes some good points, however, I was looking at this fight as good against evil. I am pissed that evil came out on top. I am soo sick of this blk dysfunctial behavior that is able to succeed at the world stage. I was hoping that Hatton would stick to a game plan and at least punish PBF. Your right there is anguish becuase of the disappointment of the loss and how America embraces this negro behavior and fawns over wins like this! I sometimes wonder what this great country is coming to.

I can only hope that Pavlik comes through again on his second fight with Taylor. The sad part is that Taylor is a good person who is respectable to every one. I will hate to see him lose against Pavlik. At leat Tebow won the Heisman Trophy!
 
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Kukulcan said:
Referendum you makes some good points, however, I was looking at this fight as good against evil. I am pissed that evil came out on top. I am soo sick of this blk dysfunctial behavior that is able to succeed at the world stage. I was hoping that Hatton would stick to a game plan and at least punish PBF. Your right there is anguish becuase of the disappointment of the loss and how America embraces this negro behavior and fawns over wins like this! I sometimes wonder what this great country is coming to.

I can only hope that Pavlik comes through again on his second fight with Taylor. The sad part is that Taylor is a good person who is respectable to every one. I will hate to see him lose against Pavlik. At leat Tebow won the Heisman Trophy!
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Only an idiot sees a boxing match between two fighters as a fight of good versus evil.


If you paid for the PVV for this fight then you caught sucked into the hype of this fight and your own personal biases.


What kind of ignorant turd thinks that a pro fighter who does'nt know and does'nt care about is fighting for his ''race''.


You have to be pretty foolish to think like that i gues that is why this site was created
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Godking, I guess that same foolishness is why trolls like you create multiple IDs and wait for months at a time before posting anything.
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"What kind of ignorant turd thinks that a pro fighter who does'nt know and does'nt care about is fighting for his ''race''."

Apparently Bernard Hopkins fights for his race:

"I would never let a white boy beat me," Hopkins told reporters. "You can print that. I would never lose to a white person."

Good thing he will be KTFO by Calzaghe.
 

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Colonel_Reb said:
Godking, I guess that same foolishness is why trolls like you create multiple IDs and wait for months at a time before posting anything.
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Key word being months, because that's how long it takes for one of their favored black fighters to beat a white man, despite the large number of interracial match ups that now come up several times a year.

The list of recent fights wherein a white fighter beat a black one recently in marquee match ups is much longer than the list of the reverse.

If any of these trolls really had that much faith in their homeboys they'd stop by the forums and post their predictions BEFORE the fight, not after.
 

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The big picture, big fights of 2007 involving white boxers and blacks:

Kelly Pavlik defeats Miranda and Taylor
Wladimir Klitschko defeats Austin and Brewster
Sultan Ibragimov defeats Holyfield and Briggs
Lucian Bute defeats Bika and Berrio
Alexander Povetkin defeats Bostice, Donald and Byrd
Gavin Rees defeats M'Baye
Paulie Malignaggi defeats N'Dou
Enzo Maccarinelli defeats Braithwaite


That's fourteen, but there's many more! White boxers have won 80% - 95% of their fights with blacks in 2007. So let's not worry too much about the outcome of ONE fight...

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Kukulcan said:
Referendum you makes some good points, however, I was looking at this fight as good against evil. I am pissed that evil came out on top. I am soo sick of this blk dysfunctial behavior that is able to succeed at the world stage. I was hoping that Hatton would stick to a game plan and at least punish PBF. Your right there is anguish becuase of the disappointment of the loss and how America embraces this negro behavior and fawns over wins like this! I sometimes wonder what this great country is coming to. I can only hope that Pavlik comes through again on his second fight with Taylor. The sad part is that Taylor is a good person who is respectable to every one. I will hate to see him lose against Pavlik. At leat Tebow won the Heisman Trophy!
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Only an idiot sees a boxing match between two fighters as a fight of good versus evil.


If you paid for the PVV for this fight then you caught sucked into the hype of this fight and your own personal biases.


What kind of ignorant turd thinks that a pro fighter who does'nt know and does'nt care about is fighting for his ''race''.


You have to be pretty foolish to think like that i gues that is why this site was created
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I guess I have a different outlook on the Hatton / Pretty mouth fight than most here. First off, Hatton is the smaller fighter, giving up 6 inches in reach and a couple inches in height. Second, Hatton was never declared a superhuman athlete or pound for pound best boxer in the world today. Third, Hatton's style involved pressure, pressure and more pressure on the inside. So we have the media endorsed greatest "negro afflete" in the world fighting a shorter, smaller, slower "average Joe" white man with a good chin and a great work ethic.

RESULT: Referee, Joe Cortez, refuses to allow Hatton to work on the inside during the majority of the fight knowing full well that Hatton is most vulnerable when he tries to close the distance between he and "pretty mouth."

Cortez penalizes Hatton for hitting to the back of the head even though "pretty mouth" continually turns his back to Hatton during exchanges.

Cortez never penalizes "pretty mouth" for his blatant use of elbows even though he warns him at least three separate times during the early rounds of the fight.

"pretty mouth" finally catches Hatton coming in afterCortez breaks them up during exchanges dozens of times through the fight.

The final result being that an undersized average white male gives the greatest "black afflete" today a helluva fight for 10 rounds. I don't see that as doing too bad.
 

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Calzaghe is getting some recognition here in the UK at last...

"Welsh boxing superstar Joe Calzaghe brought his superb year to a close by winning the BBC Sports Personality of the Year Award.
The 35-year-old finished ahead of Formula One star Lewis Hamilton, while boxer Ricky Hatton was in third place.

Calzaghe, the world super-middleweight champion, is undefeated in 44 fights, including a superb win over Mikkel Kessler in November."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/7135700.stm
 

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I haven't followed boxing since about 1991, so what I currently know about the world of boxing would fill a very small book. Don King and the antics of the crazy negroes like Muhammad Ali and ultimately Mike Tyson drove me away from the sport and it wasn't long after that I saw my first UFC. With UFC in the picture and other things occupying most of my time, like girls
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I had no problems just forgetting about boxing. Like referendum pointed out, we won't and don't have to win every fight. I am just happy for the first time in my lifetime that some of the "great white hope stuff" is starting to look ridiculous as there are lots of white fighters who are starting to prove their worth. Also with the emergence of these fighters, some class and sportsmanship is starting to come back to boxing that has been missing for the most part, and that is a good thing. I will probably never be a big boxing fan like I was when I was a kid. One of my best memories is sitting down with my dad to watch boxing on a Saturday night. I will never be able to recapture that, but it wouldn't be so bad if I could sit down every once in a while and watch a boxing match without feeling ashamed about how corrupt and ghetto thugish it has become, so I am happy with the emergence of the white fighters. Edited by: Bear Backer
 

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Liverlips said:
"What kind of ignorant turd thinks that a pro fighter who does'nt know and does'nt care about is fighting for his ''race''."

Apparently Bernard Hopkins fights for his race:

"I would never let a white boy beat me," Hopkins told reporters. "You can print that. I would never lose to a white person."

Good thing he will be KTFO by Calzaghe.




man i cant believe the media isnt crucifying Hopkins for this!!!!!!!!!! can u imagine if a white guy said this about a black fighter????!!!! al sharpton and co. would be camped out in front of his lawn along with all the major news networks. when did it become acceptible for one race to denegrate the other in front of members of the media without any back lash?? why isnt this on the cover of espn magazine or sports illustrated?? this needs to change. we got to figure out some way of getting the media outlets to call Hopkins and guys like him out when they say sh*t like this.
 

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"If any of these trolls really had that much faith in their homeboys they'd stop by the forums and post their predictions BEFORE the fight, not after."

White Shotgun, this is the best troll boxing quote I've ever heard on this site. You and I always seem to have the same ideas when it comes to football and boxing. You're right, too, where were all these losers when the HW division was falling apart for their beloved black american fighters? I don't remember seeing any, I wonder why??

I guess with the lack of proper media attention (if at all) of the endless white wave of new condenters/champs, they still thought Tyson was the champion, haha.

Dear god, how in the world do you pin all your hopes on a guy who weighs as much as the average 6th grader? Some hero, haha. Only in america, I guess...
 

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Good Post-We control Boxing from 160lbs on up, MVP in the NBA, Heisman Trophy winner, Worlds Strongest Man, Heavyweight Boxing Champion of the World, World's Toughest Man [Fedor], Best Player in the NFL [Tom Brady]. Best P4P Fighter in the World [Calzaghe]. I will not even bring up Hockey or the Olympic's.
 

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Yeah, but what about golf and Formula 1?
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Guests said:
Kukulcan said:
Referendum you makes some good points, however, I was looking at this fight as good against evil. I am pissed that evil came out on top. I am soo sick of this blk dysfunctial behavior that is able to succeed at the world stage. I was hoping that Hatton would stick to a game plan and at least punish PBF. Your right there is anguish becuase of the disappointment of the loss and how America embraces this negro behavior and fawns over wins like this! I sometimes wonder what this great country is coming to. I can only hope that Pavlik comes through again on his second fight with Taylor. The sad part is that Taylor is a good person who is respectable to every one. I will hate to see him lose against Pavlik. At leat Tebow won the Heisman Trophy!
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Only an idiot sees a boxing match between two fighters as a fight of good versus evil.


If you paid for the PVV for this fight then you caught sucked into the hype of this fight and your own personal biases.


What kind of ignorant turd thinks that a pro fighter who does'nt know and does'nt care about is fighting for his ''race''.


You have to be pretty foolish to think like that i gues that is why this site was created
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Whatever you are you're comments are profoundly ignorant of how boxing and fighting is and has been promoted since it's inception.

It is fascinating, and also humourous, that of all the thousands of places you may voice your feeble opinions you choose to come here every blue moon when a prominent black beats a prominent white.

We have a profile of you...keep talking.Edited by: Maple Leaf
 
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Maple leaf thanks for the hammering the 'guests' who is a wigger or a black whose entire self worth is closely connected to Mayweather's great win(I have to honest). This f**k is either a self loathing honkie or welfare supported negro who goes around planting his parasitic seed in babies mommas. I believe this f**k has a 42" plasma tv and the PPV bought with welfare, ssi, faux disablity etc.

But based on his weak comments I suspect he is the former. A white who hangs around blks, dresses like a clown, adapts their verision of English, listens to their nonsensical rap noise, does/did poorly in school and has a Tupac poster in his pathetic bedroom! This f**k then turns white while speaking to mother or father. What a waste! I feel sorry for his parents. I would be ashamed of him. This motherf**ker should have been slapped silly, once he started to take on this negro persona. 'Guests' your parents should have beat that negro fawning out of you, day one.

I would be interested in knowing what kind of work you do for a living or if you work at all. I suspect you run with your bros capering and selling weed or some other kind of narcotic.
 

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Kukulcan:

I expect he'll be back but it may take some time, our kind are back with a vengeance in our sport.
 
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