Kevin Curtis Signed By Eagles

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I think this was easily the best team to sign with out of those who were pursuing him. With the Lions, Curtis would be fighting Furrey for playing time. On Tennessee and Minnesota it would have been 25 receptions per year at best. On Philly he should be the number two receiver behind inconsistent Reggie Brown. In reality he's better than Brown, let's hope he somehow doesn't end up as the third receiver behind the likes of Greg Lewis, Hank Baskett or some other journeyman type. When McNabb is healthy he's the best throwing black quarterback in the NFL, and if he's injured there will at least be a competent white backup in there rather than a scatter-armed run-first afflete.


Oh, and Furrey is still a starter in Detroit -- as long as he isn't surpassed by the "great" Shaun McDonald.
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Also he got good money, i am very happy for him, such a nice guy...well deserving, now lets just hope he shows what he can do on the field, he should see it enough in this offense:

Per rotoworld.com

Eagles signed WR Kevin Curtis to a six-year, $32 million contract. The deal includes $2 million in escalators and $9.5 million guaranteed.
 

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This should be a pretty good fit for Curtis, but I wouldn't necessarily count on him starting. The fantasy sites are all saying that "he could compete" with Hank Baskett for the #2 WR spot. Yeah, that sounds about par for the course in the Caste System; a phenomenal, incredibly fast and productive player being equated with a slow, plodding, run-of-the-mill black nobody. Curtis certainly sounds like a white player with these comments: "I'd like to be a starter, but I'm open to any opportunities that are out there," Curtis said. "Outcome: I want to be out on the field playing the whole game." Now, let's imagine what ANY black player would say in such a situation; how about something like "Nobody is better than me. I didn't come here not to start. You want the best player on the field, you've got to let me play." I wish Kevin well, but this is no sure thing. It will be a good test of the Caste System to see if he is named the starter there, which he should unquestionably be, by Andy Reid, who isn't exactly known for having white skill position players in his offense.
 

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Maybe Kevin thinks Andy Reid will help him out since they are both mormons. Chad Lewis was a mormon TE for the Eagles and he was the starting TE for a few seasons and he did more than just block.
 

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That's funny that we are talking for Curtis to be the second receiver LOL. He should be their FIRST receiver comon he is a LOT better than Reggie ''Nobody'' Brown! Kevin Curtis can be in the SAME category of Steve Smith of Santana Moss! He is fastest than these 2 player! He already ran a 4.21!
 

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This is probably Kevin's last chance at stardom, hope he makes it even though I have always hated the Eagles and their no-class fans. It will be kind of hard to ignore Kevin's success when the premier black qb in the league is throwing to him.
 

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The only upside is that the media will cover any success he has because he will be having their beloved McNabb throwing to him. Picture the headlines, "Breaking stereotypes" Black QB, throwing TD's to a white receiver! All in the city of brotherly love.
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I hope my team signs a safety or Curtis is gonna dominate our very poor secondary twice a year.
 

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From philly.com said:
WHEN KEVIN CURTIS joined the St. Louis Rams in 2003 as a rookie wideout, he watched veterans Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce go about their business.
"Day 1 in the NFL, watching Isaac and Torry run routes, I thought that I played a different position," Curtis said yesterday, on his first visit to the NovaCare Complex since signing a 6-year, $30 million free-agent contract with the Eagles 2 weeks ago.

Holt and Bruce might have kept Curtis from winning a permanent starting job during his four seasons with the Rams, but he said they certainly helped him learn what it takes to be an NFL receiver. Curtis, who mostly played the slot in St. Louis, is now known as one of the league's best, most precise route-runners.

"I've really tried to focus on better technique and better route-running. I still feel like I've got a lot of room for improvement," said Curtis, who is expected to move outside, into a starting role, with the Birds. "Being around guys for the last 4 years who were such great route-runners made me want to be a lot better route-runner.

"There's a lot to it - the whole body language that you put out as you run routes. In college, there were things I never even thought of until I was around some of the pros I've been around. There's a lot you can do to not give any keys to the defense on when you're going to break down and change direction."

Receivers being where they're supposed to be is a big thing with quarterback Donovan McNabb. Freddie Mitchell's tendency to improvise was one reason McNabb never seemed to quite trust FredEx.

Curtis was asked whether he thought his attention to detail would help the process of synching up with McNabb.

"I think so," he said. "It's my job to be where I'm supposed to be. The quarterback has a million other things to worry about. That's a tough position, I don't know how they do it back there at quarterback. But that's what I'm going to do, I'm going to be where I'm supposed to be."

This is the best chance Curtis has ever had to be a starter, to prove he can move outside and put up the kind of gaudy yards-per-catch numbers top wideouts achieve (like the 19.1 recorded in 2006 by the guy he's replacing, Donté Stallworth). Curtis can hardly wait to get started.

"I want to prove that I'm the guy they think I can be," he said.

Curtis seems to be a quick study - he scored a 48 out of 50 on the NFL's Wonderlic intelligence test, the second-best score ever recorded, and highest among active players. The Eagles' version of the West Coast offense is different from the one run by the Rams, but Curtis probably can figure it out.

"I think for the most part, a lot of NFL teams are doing the same types of things. They [use different terminology]," he said. "It's just a matter of getting in and studying. The whole offseason, minicamps are key for me this year, to get in and kind of get in the system. I don't think it's too hard, once you get in and put in the work."

One complicating factor is McNabb's rehab from surgery to his anterior cruciate ligament. Though McNabb and coach Andy Reid said this week that McNabb's recovery is progressing well, he certainly won't be throwing to Curtis in the first minicamp, May 11-14. Reid said it will be a close call as to whether McNabb is ready when training camp opens in late July.

"Obviously, the sooner he's back, the better, especially for a guy like me, that hasn't played with him," Curtis said. "The biggest thing is, that's our guy. We want to make sure he's healthy and ready to go."

The Wonderlic always seems to get a lot of attention this time of year. There has been a debate over how much it really measures football intelligence. Curtis said that as he was taking the test, he had no idea he would go down in Wonderlic lore.

"I guessed on about five or six of those, and I think I got pretty lucky," Curtis said. "I didn't get to the last question [of 50]. So I only guessed wrong once."

Like many players, Curtis took the test a couple of times as he prepared for the draft, in which the Rams chose him in the third round, 74th overall (just 21 slots before the Birds took Billy McMullen). He said he had to take it again at the Utah State pro day, because scouts didn't believe the 48 tally from the scouting combine. He said a proctor actually sat next to him while he took it the final time, to make sure he wasn't cheating somehow.

"Each time it got easier. That last time, I actually finished it with a couple minutes to spare," Curtis said. "Honestly, I think anyone, the more you take it, the better you're going to do."

Curtis has endured a fair amount of kidding over being Mr. Wonderlic. He said Rams QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, whose Harvard background still produced only a 38, regularly questioned how he was outdone by someone from Utah State.

"I wish the Wonderlic score really meant I was smarter than him," Curtis said.
 

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As we know, Philadelphia does not like to pay players market value to begin with. So, this is a rather unusual move for the Eagles. Because of this, Mr. Curtis should see a lot of playing time.

This is great for Philadelphia, because Curtis is really good at running skinny post patterns from the slot. Translation: McNabb will not have to throw the ball very far to complete passes, and Philadelphia will have someone who knows what to do with it afterwards.
 

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Curtis signing with the Eagles is without a doubt the best news this off-season. Curtis will definitly be a great "sleeper" pick in fantasy leagues.
 

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In Philly the concern is that with McNabb out for all of the voluntary training camp and who knows how long into the regular practices that him and Curtis won't be able to develop a chemistry. In other words, if McNabb doesn't throw to whitey its because of his injury last year!
 

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wow. you want to talk about caste propaganda... check out the blurb NFL.com national editor Vic Carucci wrote on Kevin's outlook in Philly (emphasis added by me).


Free agent Kevin Curtis, formerly of the St. Louis Rams, fills a big void at wide receiver that Donte' Stallworth's free-agent departure to the New England Patriots created. Curtis should become a go-to target right away. He does not have Stallworth's blazing speed or game-breaking ability but has good quickness and the smarts to consistently find openings in zone coverage. He makes nice gains after the catch and can be highly effective working from the outside or the slot.


Curtis is probably one of the five fastest receivers in the NFL, but he doesn't have "blazing speed or game-breaking ability?" it's a good thing he's smart, or he'd probably be a cashier at Wal-Mart.
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here's the link. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10223230click on his name, and you can see this is no one-time deal. he said virtually the same thing about Colts rookie Anthony Gonzalez earlier in another "expert analysis." notice the lack of any mention about "athleticism" or "speed." instead he's got "ultra-sure hands" and is a precise route runner who is quick and can get open on short routes. bah!


The Colts' most impressive move was making former Ohio State wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez their first-round draft pick. Gonzalez should be able to step right into the slot opening created by the free-agent departure of Brandon Stokley. Gonzalez has the ultra-sure hands Stokley provided Peyton Manning. The former Buckeye also runs routes with the same tremendous precision Stokley displayed, and his exceptional quickness allows him to consistently gain separation on short and intermediate routes.
 

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Seriously, Kevin Curtis is without question in the top 10 most explosive (in terms of speed) players the NFL has ever seen. Deon Sanders (I know, I hate him too), Steve Smith, Bethel Johnson, Joey Galloway, Santana Moss and Devon Hester all come to mind. For God's sake, this man once ran a 4.21 40 yard dash, has a 48 wonderlic, 225lb bench (he only weights 185-190lbs) of 20 reps, and a 38" vertical leap! Perhaps his only downfall is his age (because of his Mormon faith and the mission trips they all participate in) and his lack of starting experience. Though he was best suited on the fast St. Louis turf, they just wouldn't allow him to start over the average-looking Isaac Bruce. I think this is the biggest off-season move for any of our guys, and I'll be watching Kevin even closer and with higher hopes this season. Best of luck to him and to the player who replaced him on the Rams, Drew Bennett.

PS - I wish brainless fans wouldn't listen to the moronic ramblings of NFL "experts" such as; Vic Carucci, Adam Schefter, Chris Berman, and without question the biggest pussy-jock-sniffing-loser, the reprehensible John Clayton. I wish thier hidden agendas wouldn't fool so many...
 
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Thrashen said:
Seriously, Kevin Curtis is without question in the top 10 most explosive (in terms of speed) players the NFL has ever seen. Deon Sanders (I know, I hate him too), Steve Smith, Bethel Johnson, Joey Galloway, Santana Moss and Devon Hester all come to mind. For God's sake, this man once ran a 4.21 40 yard dash, has a 48 wonderlic, 225lb bench (he only weights 185-190lbs) of 20 reps, and a 38" vertical leap! Perhaps his only downfall is his age (because of his Mormon faith and the mission trips they all participate in) and his lack of starting experience. Though he was best suited on the fast St. Louis turf, they just wouldn't allow him to start over the average-looking Isaac Bruce. I think this is the biggest off-season move for any of our guys, and I'll be watching Kevin even closer and with higher hopes this season. Best of luck to him and to the player who replaced him on the Rams, Drew Bennett.

PS - I wish brainless fans wouldn't listen to the moronic ramblings of NFL "experts" such as; Vic Carucci, Adam Schefter, Chris Berman, and without question the biggest pussy-jock-sniffing-loser, the reprehensible John Clayton. I wish thier hidden agendas wouldn't fool so many...
Not this again.....Isaac bruce is a future HOF'er and he racked up 1000 yards last year, how is he average?
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GSOT said:
Not this again.....Isaac bruce is a future HOF'er and he racked up 1000 yards last year, how is he average?

He's average compared to Kevin Curtis!
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GSOT said:
Thrashen said:
Seriously, Kevin Curtis is without question in the top 10 most explosive (in terms of speed) players the NFL has ever seen. Deon Sanders (I know, I hate him too), Steve Smith, Bethel Johnson, Joey Galloway, Santana Moss and Devon Hester all come to mind. For God's sake, this man once ran a 4.21 40 yard dash, has a 48 wonderlic, 225lb bench (he only weights 185-190lbs) of 20 reps, and a 38" vertical leap! Perhaps his only downfall is his age (because of his Mormon faith and the mission trips they all participate in) and his lack of starting experience. Though he was best suited on the fast St. Louis turf, they just wouldn't allow him to start over the average-looking Isaac Bruce. I think this is the biggest off-season move for any of our guys, and I'll be watching Kevin even closer and with higher hopes this season. Best of luck to him and to the player who replaced him on the Rams, Drew Bennett.

PS - I wish brainless fans wouldn't listen to the moronic ramblings of NFL "experts" such as; Vic Carucci, Adam Schefter, Chris Berman, and without question the biggest pussy-jock-sniffing-loser, the reprehensible John Clayton. I wish thier hidden agendas wouldn't fool so many...
Not this again.....Isaac bruce is a future HOF'er and he racked up 1000 yards last year, how is he average?
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First of all, Curtis never ran a 4.21, he was in the high 4.3s at the Combine, which is still extremely fast.


Bruce has had a great career, but at this point he is merely average on one of the NFL's best offenses. I posted a while back about Bruce having lost his ability to make big plays (I'll try to find it when I have more time). If I remember correctly, since 2002 he's had only one reception of over 50 yards, whereas Curtis, in much less playing time, has had quite a few big plays and long TD catches, including one in a playoff game against the Falcons. Curtis was clearly the better receiver than Bruce the past few years, but because of the "respect" that NFL teams always give to aging black stars Curtis was stuck behind him on the depth chart.
 
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The Rams have to respect Bruce though, he is still putting up good numbers and also he is the only remaining L.A Ram from 1994, in the Ram community he is seen as Mr Ram, he is a fan favourite, but i very much disagree that Curtis was "CLEARLY" the better receiver over the last few years. Curtis was good and will do great things in Philly but Ike was the better man for the job.
 

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I think they were both good last year in different ways. Bruce was a reliable possession type receiver and Curtis was more of a deep threat. I personaly would have liked to have see Curtis starting the majority of time, and Bruce coming in on 3 receiver sets and third downs. The point is the media would like to portry their abilities and roles the other way around.
 
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devans said:
I think they were both good last year in different ways. Bruce was a reliable possession type receiver and Curtis was more of a deep threat. I personaly would have liked to have see Curtis starting the majority of time, and Bruce coming in on 3 receiver sets and third downs. The point is the media would like to portry their abilities and roles the other way around.
If Curtis was so much more of a deep threat why did Bruce always have a better yards per catch average.
 

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That has a lot to do with the way they've been used, or not used in the case of Curtis. Or are you saying that Bruce, with just one 50+ yard reception in the past five seasons despite playing for one of the NFL's premier passing offenses, and a mere 6 TDs total over the past two seasons and 17 over the past four seasons, is a better big-play receiver than Curtis?


The only time Curtis was not used as a slot receiver was during part of the '05 season, when Bruce was hurt.Curtis responded with 36/593/5 in an 8 game stretch. Expand that over a full season and it's easy to see what Curtis brings to an offense.


Curtis has more than proven that the Rams were wise to draft him in the 3rd round.He is the guy that would have forced defenses toconcentrate onTorry Holt less because of his obvious big-play ability. Why let a guy like that rot as a non-starter for years, especially when he was already old for a rookie because of his Mormon mission? NFL teams do not draft capable receivers to sit on the bench; the talented ones almost always start by their second season, except when they don't have the proper skin color.Edited by: Don Wassall
 
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