John Kuhn

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Anyone familiar with him? Listed as a running back for the Steelers, saw limited action last season. Had a highly impressive collegiate career at Shippensburg, setting both school and PA rushing records. However, due to his size, he would most likely be utilized as a fullback, behind Kreider. However I am hopeful that he might be used as a HB in that he hasn't been released yet and the Steelers did dump Verron Haynes....................................
Here is a link for information about John and his impressive career, both academically and on the football field:
http://news.steelers.com/team/player/52805/
 

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Welcome to Caste Football remark22! Yes, we are familiar with John and have discussed him in a couple of previous threads. The search function on the board is a very useful tool for looking up older info or someone you aren't sure about. Here are the main Kuhn threads so you can check them out. It will be interesting to see what happens to John over the next couple of seasons.


[url]http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4388&a mp;KW=John+Kuhn[/url]


[url]http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1418&a mp;KW=John+Kuhn[/url]
 

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I was just about to post those same two threads!
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John could be agood NFL running back, no question about that. But it's always a question of opportunity; an endless stream of black tailbacks get to show what they can do in the NFL, but no white ones. At this time I can't see Kuhngetting more than a carry or two at the end of blowouts in2007 unless Willie Parker and Najeh Davenport are injured, and probably not even then, as the Steelers (assuming Kuhn makes the team again) would sign a veteran black RB. That's just how the NFL works.
 

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Hi guys im new here.


I just wanted to say that i played against John Khun in both high school and in college. I know what a true athlete he is. But last year when he only got the last carry at the end of the game and they made some retarded commet like " everyone is running the ball tonight" i knew what his fate would be. Although i root for him with everything i got, I would not be surprised if he is not not cut by the onset of the season.
 

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Good to have you here, hellhammer! Sounds like you could provide a lot of first hand knowledge about the Caste System to the rest of us here. I'm looking forward to hearing more about you and your teammate's experiences in college.
 

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"Everyone is running the ball tonight."

Just another example of the caste system media in full swing. Do you guys think these anouncers know they are being racist? Or are they just using "acceptable" terms to describe white athletes?

On a side note, welcome to the site heelhammer and remark22. How did you guys find out about Caste Football?
 

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Yes gentlemen


i played for a division 2 college in Pennsylvania. I have seen first hand the caste system even at the division 2 level.I found out about caste football after i tried to look up any white corner backs in the nfl. I was disapointed that i didn't find any white cornerbacks, however, i did find this site. Somehow i got directed to this siteand have loved the real open dialouge ever since. This site in my veiw is only stating what is blatently obvoius to anyone who has ever played football at any level here in America. Somehow, someway white America has decided to put the black athlete on a pedistol beyond reproach.
 

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preach it brother, as I have been aware for quite some time as to the horrid conditions whites face at every collegiate and profressional level especially football. It is quite sickening to think that in the darn 21st century a race of people have basically been done away with in certain so called speed positions it makes you wonder just what in the hell happened to make all football coaches hate and discriminate against their own kind. This blatant discrimination would never ever be tolerated any where else in this enitire country except in sports where so many have been able but have had the door repeatedly slammed in their faces. First let me say that ever since I started watching football I used to ask myself why aren't their any whites running the football. People used to tell me that I was a racist and a biggot when ever I brought up the subject. Now we find ourselves having a candid discussion why can't we get any honest answers from the people who really know the coaches the ones past and present. I truly love the sport of football, but I wish it was more fair. I have two young boys who would like to play football, and my hope is that they are good enough to play running back at any level they so choose. If however I find them fighting odds that seem not to be in favor then I will back my kids to the point of no return. I feel if all of the parents got invoved and made this an issue that this curse would eventually become a not to distant memory. The only way to fight prejudice is with all parents and the communities getting involved in this fight that we have to change this sport and truly open it up to everyone regardless of race creed or especially color when this is done then we really will have changed this country for the better. Who is with me?
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Yeah I was just checking up on Tommy Zbikowski and stumbled upon this site and loved what i saw. i plan on ordering a shirt, however i am currently in china until summer so it'll have to wait. hellhammer brought up the lack of white cornerbacks in the nfl, is dustin fox labeled as a generic DB or CB? i do have madden for playstation out here, where he's listed as a cornerback.........
 

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oh he's listed as a corner, yeah. but in 2 NFL seasons he got on the field once. so he would probably be better off as a generic DB... let's hope he gets a shot this season.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me how the NFL takes super athletic and talented white DB's who are like 5'9 or 180 pounds and insists on calling them safeties.
 

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White Power said:
preach it brother, as I have been aware for quite some time as to the horrid conditions whites face at every collegiate and profressional level especially football. It is quite sickening to think that in the darn 21st century a race of people have basically been done away with in certain so called speed positions it makes you wonder just what in the hell happened to make all football coaches hate and discriminate against their own kind. This blatant discrimination would never ever be tolerated any where else in this enitire country except in sports where so many have been able but have had the door repeatedly slammed in their faces. First let me say that ever since I started watching football I used to ask myself why aren't their any whites running the football. People used to tell me that I was a racist and a biggot when ever I brought up the subject. Now we find ourselves having a candid discussion why can't we get any honest answers from the people who really know the coaches the ones past and present. I truly love the sport of football, but I wish it was more fair. I have two young boys who would like to play football, and my hope is that they are good enough to play running back at any level they so choose. If however I find them fighting odds that seem not to be in favor then I will back my kids to the point of no return. I feel if all of the parents got invoved and made this an issue that this curse would eventually become a not to distant memory. The only way to fight prejudice is with all parents and the communities getting involved in this fight that we have to change this sport and truly open it up to everyone regardless of race creed or especially color when this is done then we really will have changed this country for the better. Who is with me?


I agree with your sentiments,and for it to change it will have to be from the grassroots up as you mention about parents being involved, or take at the least a huge upswelling in awareness of the Caste System and its rejection by white fans and athletes.


For all the overt and institutionalized racism that blacks faced, there were always powerful elements sympathetic to their plight -- in media, in government, in colleges, in professional sports, etc. The difference now is that under no circumstances is any person in a position of influence allowed to show the least bit of sympathy or empathy for whites -- whether it be an individual screwed over or victimized because he or she is white -- or a group of whites facing discrimination and/or victimization. If it's acknowledged by the system at all, the basic attitude is "It's about time whites get what's coming to them," or "Turnabout's fair play."


To the system (Caste and otherwise) whites don't exist and aren't allowed to exist, except to be disparaged and made fun of. There are no exceptions to this rule. Any manifestation of white self-respect or white pride is strictly verboten. The racism that white athletes face is but a small part of a much greater whole, a whole that is intent on rooting out all racial feelings and self-respectin whites at the same timewhites arebeing replaced in this country with non-whites. To be blunt about it, it's a program of "soft" genocide that's taking place and as long as the vast majority of whites are unaware or unconcerned about it and refuse to organizeand stand up fortheir own group interests, it will continue to move forward. Edited by: Don Wassall
 

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Don Wassall said:
White Power said:
preach it brother, as I have been aware for quite some time as to the horrid conditions whites face at every collegiate and profressional level especially football. It is quite sickening to think that in the darn 21st century a race of people have basically been done away with in certain so called speed positions it makes you wonder just what in the hell happened to make all football coaches hate and discriminate against their own kind. This blatant discrimination would never ever be tolerated any where else in this enitire country except in sports where so many have been able but have had the door repeatedly slammed in their faces. First let me say that ever since I started watching football I used to ask myself why aren't their any whites running the football. People used to tell me that I was a racist and a biggot when ever I brought up the subject. Now we find ourselves having a candid discussion why can't we get any honest answers from the people who really know the coaches the ones past and present. I truly love the sport of football, but I wish it was more fair. I have two young boys who would like to play football, and my hope is that they are good enough to play running back at any level they so choose. If however I find them fighting odds that seem not to be in favor then I will back my kids to the point of no return. I feel if all of the parents got invoved and made this an issue that this curse would eventually become a not to distant memory. The only way to fight prejudice is with all parents and the communities getting involved in this fight that we have to change this sport and truly open it up to everyone regardless of race creed or especially color when this is done then we really will have changed this country for the better. Who is with me?&nb sp;


I agree with your sentiments, and for it to change it will have to be from the grassroots up as you mention about parents being involved, or take at the least a huge upswelling in awareness of the Caste System and its rejection by white fans and athletes. 


For all the overt and institutionalized racism that blacks faced, there were always powerful elements sympathetic to their plight -- in media, in government, in colleges, in professional sports, etc.  The difference now is that under no circumstances is any person in a position of influence allowed to show the least bit of sympathy or empathy for whites -- whether it be an individual screwed over or victimized because he or she is white -- or a group of whites facing discrimination and/or victimization.  If it's acknowledged by the system at all, the basic attitude is "It's about time whites get what's coming to them," or "Turnabout's fair play." 


To the system (Caste and otherwise) whites don't exist and aren't allowed to exist, except to be disparaged and made fun of.  There are no exceptions to this rule. Any manifestation of white self-respect or white pride is strictly verboten.  The racism that white athletes face is but a small part of a much greater whole, a whole that is intent on rooting out all racial feelings and self-respect in whites at the same time whites are being replaced in this country with non-whites.  To be blunt about it, it's a program of "soft" genocide that's taking place and as long as the vast majority of whites are unaware or unconcerned about it and refuse to organize and stand up for their own group interests, it will continue to move forward. 


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As always, well put Don.
 

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White Power said:
First let me say that ever since I started watching football I used to ask myself why aren't their any whites running the football. People used to tell me that I was a racist and a biggot when ever I brought up the subject. Now we find ourselves having a candid discussion why can't we get any honest answers from the people who really know the coaches the ones past and present.
Now that's the truth. For about 15 years now, my brother and I have used the code word "homies" in public when talking about who has the most white players. He'll say something like he's going for Penn St. this year and I'll ask "how many 'homies' do they have?" I always thought that was funny.

haven't quite got to teh point of saying I go for the team with the most white guys...yet, at least not to strangers. But it's going that route. The minute there is a white CB again or RB, I'll openly say I am going for him to all who'll listen and will do so without any reservations.
 

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John Kuhn and every one of the gazillion white tailbacks who have been denied an opportunity by the NFL would do anything to get a chance to be "the man" for an NFL team. Then there's LenDale White. The Titans drafted him in the early second round last year, despite all the usual warning signs -- e.g. showing up at the Combine fat and lazy, to the point that a running joke concerned what bra size he wore. But when it comes to running backs, all blacks are viewed as Magical Negroes, and Tennesse snagged him after taking Vince Young ahead of Matt Leinart in the first round.


As it turned out, holdover RB Chris Brown was an inexplicable holdout despite his injury prone history and the drafting of White. So Travis Henry ended up resurrecting his career, having a very nice year before Tennessee cut him to avoid paying him a big bonus, with Henry then signing a big contract with Denver.


So this leaves things wide open for LenDale White to seize the moment, does it not? Everyone realizes it except ol' LenDale, who now weighs in at 260 pounds or more, too dumb and/or too lazy to comprehend or care.


This is another screaming example of the beyond-absurd racism that rules the NFL. It's as obvious as Israel's control of the United States government, yet similarly no one dares challengethe unconscionable status quofor fear of being the first, with all the unknown and unpleasant consequences that may follow.


Here's the link to the delicately titled article: "White's Weight a Concern":


[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AiGD8dXVk.hKMuVmUsarJW 9DubYF?slug=cr-lendale032707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns [/url]
 

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jared said:
It never ceases to amaze me how the NFL takes super athletic and talented white DB's who are like 5'9 or 180 pounds and insists on calling them safeties.

Calling whites who play in the secondary a "safety" is another way to insult caucasian players in the NFL. It is common knowledge in the Caste System that you have to be "retarded" if you fail as a safety. This of course, is their wish.
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