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Have you guys checked out Wally Szczerbiak lately.He's really stepped it up and is up to twenty points a game now,a career high.After showing good improvement over his first three years I thought that coming of that 2004 season he would get buried but he's come on strong.Way togo Wally.
 

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I am sure Kevin Garnett will have something to say about this.It isnt well known, but Kevin Garnett does not like Wally in the least bit. Garnett even sucker punched him in the face at a practice. Garnett also did this to Rick Rickert (another white player) knocking his front teeth out in practice after Rickert had taken him to town a couple of times. But you never hear any of this in the news.
 

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Wally has career FG% of over 50%! and over 40% career from the three-point line! He is now on a team that seems to appreciate him - at least the fans do. He got a standing ovation in his Celtics dubet and a "Wally" chant broke out during the game.

In Minnesota the media has always described him as an unathletic ball hog. Kevin Garnett hated him (as KJV1 has pointed out)and also brokered the deal that sent Wally to Boston. Garnett has also described Wally an out of control ball hog. BTW, Garnett is below 50% from the field and 30% from the 3-point line. I would think you would want the guys who have the best chance of making a shot to actually do the shooting. But that's not the way it is in the Bizzaro world of America.
 

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Yeah, I heard the trade analzyed on ESPN sports radio, and Tommy
Heinsohn, as well as the predictable (but forgetable) jock-sniffing
host, both kept referring to how much Wally likes to shoot. Isn't it
amazing when some white guy, who as was pointed out CAN actually shoot
well, takes any good number of shots, they are a "ball hog?" Meanwhile,
the super-ball hogs like Alan Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Kobe, etc., are
never referred to in this way at all. In fact, if they aren't gettting
their 30+ shots per game, then the announcers start complaining about
"getting them the ball!" As in all instances with sports these days,
the double standard is obvious. In a just sports world, Wally would be
the top scorer, or at least a top 5 scorer, every year, since he has
one of the best, if not the best, shot in the league.
 

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I'm a boston guy and I kept hearing about how bad wally was on defense but then I watched part of last night's game and the part i saw?..he was probably the best or second best defender we had onthe court.
 

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There is no way a white guy could actually be a "ball hog." The black guys on the team won't permit it.

Meanwhile, Kobe goes for 81, Iverson routinely shoots more than anybody else on the team and everybody thinks thats great.

p.s. Memo to KG - when was the last time the Timberwolves made it to the Finals?

Thanks, thats what I thought.
 

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nhl411 said:
I'm a boston guy and I kept hearing about how bad wally was on defense but then I watched part of last night's game and the part i saw?..he was probably the best or second best defender we had onthe court.

I guess Celtics fans haven't been reading the Caste System insights of Dave D'Alessandro of The Sporting News, who writes in this week's "NBA Insider": "It's odd nobody realizes [that Szczerbiak would] be half the player without Kevin Garnett on his team."
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A typical example of the media pecking order is the headline in today's local rag about the Kings-Celtics game: "Kings Lose in Artest's Debut."

The appropriate headline should have been "Celtics Win in Szczerbiak's Debut." But in the Caste System a talented black athlete who is a complete jerk is the most publicized commodity, while a talented white athlete who lives a clean, modest life is at the bottom of the totem pole. This racist bias is engrained in all sports coverage.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06028/645908.stm
 

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Some comparisons:

Iverson
FG attempts: 23.1 per game
FG% .418
3P% .309

Bryant
17.3 (over 20 last five seasons)
.452
.333

McGrady
18 (over 22 last five seasons)
.444
.348

Szczerbiak
11.7
.501
.404

Yeah, quite the ball hog.
 

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Wow, that post says a lot. Wally is a whole lot better than the others, and with less attempts!
 

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nhl411 said:
I'm a boston guy and I kept hearing about how bad wally was on defense but then I watched part of last night's game and the part i saw?..he was probably the best or second best defender we had onthe court.

I've heard the same thing since he first got drafted by the T-wolves. Then when I watched the games he looked like one of the better defenders out there. Pretty much every white guy is labeled "soft" on defense no matter what. Announcers say it and people believe it without watching themselves and having an individual thought.
 

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ESPN the magazine had Wally and KG on the cover a few years ago. Inside the magazine they characterized Wally as out of control and emotional while KG was the poised team leader and tempered Wally's behavior. KG was a rock and Wally was a loose cannon who needed to know his role. I didn't buy it then and definetely not now.

Here's a review of that article. I can't get the image of the cover to come up for some reason. This is just a snip. If you want the whole article see the hyperlink.

"I was fully prepared to spend part of this column ripping ESPN The Magazine's March 4 cover story on Wally Szczerbiak, which I'd heard was a hatchet job, depicting the Wolves' shooting guard as an unpopular, egotistical ball hog. In the Wolves' locker room after a win over Portland just before the All-Star break, I'd developed an instant dislike for Ric Bucher, the author of the piece. He was a tanned, blonde dude--a GQ-ready pretty boy who seemed to purposefully set himself apart from the local grunts covering the team. It didn't help that the Wolves organization and players, grateful for some national media attention, appeared to behave with extra deference and care when they interacted with him."


article review ESPN's Bucher articleEdited by: Kaptain Poop
 

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Wally is having a career year and hopefully florishes in Boston now that he doesn't have KG breathing down his neck. Although hopefully Pierce doesn't become the new KG.
 

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Wally is a classy guy from most articles I have read.I don't think the Celtics will need to worry about what he does on or off the court.The guy got married in college.What does that tell you?I think the Boston Fans will really love his competetivness.They just need to get one or two more good players and they will be back in the playoffs consistantly.I have one question though,why are they not playing Dan Dickau more?Edited by: white lightning
 
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They're not playing Dan Dickau because, as Chauncey Billups says when a
midget defense-less guard enters the game, "Mouse in the house."
 

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GreatLakeState said:
They're not playing Dan Dickau because, as Chauncey Billups says when a
midget defense-less guard enters the game, "Mouse in the house."

Did Chauncey Billups actually say that about Dan Dickau? And do you agree with it GLS?
 
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He didn't say it about Dickau specifically, that's just his catch phrase for
little guards that a big guard like himslelf can abuse.
 

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That dunk Wally did the other day over Marko Jaric was pretty damn impressive, I he took off from outside the paint, i had no idea he had hops like that
 

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emefinsob..."wally..had no idea he had hops like that" That's because even we at Caste football are still susceptible to the propaganda.Wally is 6-7 240 and in great shape, why shouldn't he be able to dunk on anybody? I don't think dunking on somebody ought to be the criteria of a exciting nba player. I think a silky smooth jump shot that hits all net(swoosh)is much more of an accomplishment and something that's much harder to maintain than just going to the basket and dunking.
 

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Wally has always been able to dunk. Some of his dunks are pretty thundering. He is much more athletic than he is given credit for.
 

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Wally is the 8th leading scorer in the NBA so far.He is averaging 27 points per game!This is amazing being that P.Pierce gets so many more shots usually.I think Wally has finally found the perfect team.The Boston Garden is starting to turn into Wally World.
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He may be the only one of the top scorers that shots over 50% and makes most of his points on field goals rather than free throws.
 
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