NFL Playoffs Divisional Week

white is right · Jan 16, 2012

I think the MSM would love to see the Harbaugh bowl and if Jimmy won the whole thing, I think ESPN would have highlight reel material for years with him doing a strip tease and his eyes looking like your average meth addict tweaking.....

:thumbdown: If there is to be a Harbaugh in the Super Bowl let it be John, at least he has some class and decorum. By the way where did Jimmy become your average 40 something who either hangs out at strip clubs all day or the 40 something who returns to college finish his degree but decides to hang out at the frat house all day.....:thumbdown:

Lew · Jan 16, 2012

BSPN spent the morning trying to trash Gronkowski. First "Golic" started comparing Gronk to Jimmy Graham and saying Gronk looks like your typical bulky TE while Graham is like a long, lean, hybrid TE. And that Graham is a much better athlete. Then I heard Cowturd saying that Gronk is just an average Pac10 "reciever" who nobody would ever have heard of if not for Tom Brady , and that he is no where even close to being the same athlete as Jimmy Graham or even Jermichael Finley.

Meireles · Jan 16, 2012

Jimmy Graham is a disgusting Octoroon.

(Rob) Gronkowski, and even his brothers Dan and Chris play their position like no other. In particular Rob. Blocking, catching passes, catching TDs, speed, stamina, ability and desire to break tackles.

No half-breed could ever hold a candle to the GRON-STER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzjNqUQY4wY&feature=related

Ridiculous.

whiteathlete33 · Jan 16, 2012

Lew said:
BSPN spent the morning trying to trash Gronkowski. First "Golic" started comparing Gronk to Jimmy Graham and saying Gronk looks like your typical bulky TE while Graham is like a long, lean, hybrid TE. And that Graham is a much better athlete. Then I heard Cowturd saying that Gronk is just an average Pac10 "reciever" who nobody would ever have heard of if not for Tom Brady , and that he is no where even close to being the same athlete as Jimmy Graham or even Jermichael Finley.

What a bunch of crap. Even Weenieworld gives Gronk credit and says his agility is off the charts. Graham is just a tight end in name anyway. He hardly ever blocks whereas Gronk is used as a blocker. He'd be just as good on another team.

Why haven't any teams been able to figure out a way to stop Gronkowski? He's too big and strong for corners and too fast for safeties and linebackers.

Don Wassall · Jan 16, 2012

Meireles said:
Jimmy Graham is a disgusting Octoroon.

(Rob) Gronkowski, and even his brothers Dan and Chris play their position like no other. In particular Rob. Blocking, catching passes, catching TDs, speed, stamina, ability and desire to break tackles.

No half-breed could ever hold a candle to the GRON-STER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzjNqUQY4wY&feature=related

Ridiculous.

Please read the posting guidelines regarding racial slurs.

foobar75 · Jan 16, 2012

Lew said:
BSPN spent the morning trying to trash Gronkowski. First "Golic" started comparing Gronk to Jimmy Graham and saying Gronk looks like your typical bulky TE while Graham is like a long, lean, hybrid TE. And that Graham is a much better athlete. Then I heard Cowturd saying that Gronk is just an average Pac10 "reciever" who nobody would ever have heard of if not for Tom Brady , and that he is no where even close to being the same athlete as Jimmy Graham or even Jermichael Finley.

I honestly wouldn't worry about Cowturd. Listening to him will only make you angry and raise your blood pressure. He's been a consistent Tebow basher from day 1, has tried to downplay Gronk's achievements every chance he gets, and is a strong anti-White vermin who must be quite popular with his bosses at Bristol.

Everyone, even the most vehement casteons, readily admit that Gronkowski is a beast who's clearly the best TE in football.

white lightning · Jan 16, 2012

Good points. Gronkowski could possibly be the best tightend in the history of the nfl if he has a long productive career. He is just a phenom like we have never seen before. His numbers speak for themselve as he has broken all of the records for a season. Then he goes out and scores 3 touchdowns. He is simply amazing and every defensive player in the nfl has nightmares about trying to cover let alone tackle the guy.

Quiet Speed · Jan 16, 2012

One of the best highlights from this weekend. Itâ€™s dangerous to get between Justin Smith and a quarterback. :smiley:

[video=youtube;YjrbHlu5sH8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjrbHlu5sH8[/video]

bearclaw500 · Jan 16, 2012

Lew said:
BSPN spent the morning trying to trash Gronkowski. First "Golic" started comparing Gronk to Jimmy Graham and saying Gronk looks like your typical bulky TE while Graham is like a long, lean, hybrid TE. And that Graham is a much better athlete. Then I heard Cowturd saying that Gronk is just an average Pac10 "reciever" who nobody would ever have heard of if not for Tom Brady , and that he is no where even close to being the same athlete as Jimmy Graham or even Jermichael Finley.

I remember the shirtless picture of the "Gronk" next to that porn star he was dating. He sure looked "lean" to me. Graham is a good athlete no doubt, probably the 2nd best tight end in the game, but these idiots are confused. Gronk bulldozed a bunch of redskins one week. That does not make him a typical bulky TE. If anything it means he can run by you or run over you.

Don Wassall · Jan 16, 2012

Justin Smith is close to having a Hall of Fame career. His consistency and durability are elite. He's always been one of the very best at his position in tackles; he gets lots of sacks too, but not as many as the best known ends. He's finally getting Pro Bowl recognition the past few years, so if he can keep it going a few more seasons he will easily be Canton worthy.

white lightning · Jan 16, 2012

That play by Justin Smith made my day. I only was able to see small parts of the niners/saints game and I missed that incredible hilite. What a beast. He just overpower everyone with incredible athletecism, speed, balance and strength. Don is also right that he has had a very good if not great career despite the media ignoring him like they do with most elite white athletes.

foobar75 · Jan 16, 2012

Quiet Speed said:
One of the best highlights from this weekend. Itâ€™s dangerous to get between Justin Smith and a quarterback. :smiley:

[video=youtube;YjrbHlu5sH8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjrbHlu5sH8[/video]

Thanks for sharing! Several of us mentioned this play earlier in the thread when it happened. The sumo had zero chance and was completely destroyed by Justin Smith. Smith is indeed getting all the recognition, and I hope either he or Jared Allen wins the DPOY.

FootballDad · Jan 16, 2012

Meireles said:
Jimmy Graham is a disgusting Octoroon.

(Rob) Gronkowski, and even his brothers Dan and Chris play their position like no other. In particular Rob. Blocking, catching passes, catching TDs, speed, stamina, ability and desire to break tackles.

No half-breed could ever hold a candle to the GRON-STER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzjNqUQY4wY&feature=related

Ridiculous.

Now, you know and I know that Graham is mixed, but many, many DWF's DO NOT. Compared to virtually any of the other players on the field, he's as white as a ghost. The network tried very hard to "show" the audience that he was a half-breed supaman with many long, lingering close-ups on the sidelines, but with his bleached 'do and winter complexion, he was whiter than Aaron Hernandez and even Joe Martinek. The folks I was with during the game were amazed by this athletic white tight-end, and I wasn't about to clue them in.

Thrashen · Jan 17, 2012

FootballDad said:
Now, you know and I know that Graham is mixed, but many, many DWF's DO NOT. Compared to virtually any of the other players on the field, he's as white as a ghost. The network tried very hard to "show" the audience that he was a half-breed supaman with many long, lingering close-ups on the sidelines, but with his bleached 'do and winter complexion, he was whiter than Aaron Hernandez and even Joe Martinek. The folks I was with during the game were amazed by this athletic white tight-end, and I wasn't about to clue them in.

Very true. Graham has very short hair, which he certainly dyes blonde.

Jimmy Grahamâ€¦

When Jordy Nelson was at KSU, he had a similar blonde buzzcut. If he didnâ€™t have light blue eyes, Nelson wouldnâ€™t look very different from Graham.

Jordy Nelson in Collegeâ€¦

wile · Jan 17, 2012

He looks like Eric Bana in a way.

Anak · Jan 17, 2012

He would

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But Graham has distant black ancestry, I would say. 1/8th, 1/16th, something like that. Still noticeable.

Truthteller · Jan 17, 2012

Anak said:
But Graham has distant black ancestry, I would say. 1/8th, 1/16th, something like that. Still noticeable.

There's really no way of knowing about Graham, without looking at his family tree. For example, many here at CF absolutely believed NBA star Blake Griffin was/is only like 1/4 or 1/8th black (at most) because of his fair black complexion and wavy red-fro....Turns out his father is blacker than Lovie Smith and his mom, who seems to be in her 60's, is a tall, unattractive very pale redhead.

On TV Land they used to run The Jefferson's from the 1970's. The Willis' (mixed race couple) that lived upstairs supposedly had a fairly dark black daughter and a "pure white son" on the show. Perhaps this can happen in Jewish fantasy land (TV), but it won't happen in real life. Griffin and Derek Jeter are going to be the closest a mudshark can come to having a "white son" with a prue black male. I wouldn't be surprised if Graham is in that mold? Perhaps he is only 1/8 or 16th, but I doubt it very much. A more likely 1/8th type black is Euro soccer star Ryan Giggs, who can pass for white in some circles:

Here are pictures of Giggs' family: http://www.lipstickalley.com/showpost.php?p=8754153&postcount=2805

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1041816/The-Life-Ryan-Giggs.html

white is right · Jan 17, 2012

Truthteller said:
There's really no way of knowing about Graham, without looking at his family tree. For example, many here at CF absolutely believed NBA star Blake Griffin was/is only like 1/4 or 1/8th black (at most) because of his fair black complexion and wavy red-fro....Turns out his father is blacker than Lovie Smith and his mom, who seems to be in her 60's, is a tall, unattractive very pale redhead.

On TV Land they used to run The Jefferson's from the 1970's. The Willis' (mixed race couple) that lived upstairs supposedly had a fairly dark black daughter and a "pure white son" on the show. Perhaps this can happen in Jewish fantasy land (TV), but it won't happen in real life. Griffin and Derek Jeter are going to be the closest a mudshark can come to having a "white son" with a prue black male. I wouldn't be surprised if Graham is in that mold? Perhaps he is only 1/8 or 16th, but I doubt it very much. A more likely 1/8th type black is Euro soccer star Ryan Giggs, who can pass for white in some circles:

Here are pictures of Giggs' family: http://www.lipstickalley.com/showpost.php?p=8754153&postcount=2805

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1041816/The-Life-Ryan-Giggs.html

He(Giggs) is probably similar genetics wise to a Melungeon. Who are descendants of Whites that married Blacks/Indians in the 17 through 18th century and intermarried with pure Whites to create a dusky White look. Graham looks about 1/4 Black. Even Derek Jeter is probably 80 percent White as the average American Black has a shade less than 20 percent White ancestry.

DixieDestroyer · Jan 17, 2012

bearclaw500 said:
I remember the shirtless picture of the "Gronk" next to that porn star he was dating. He sure looked "lean" to me. Graham is a good athlete no doubt, probably the 2nd best tight end in the game, but these idiots are confused. Gronk bulldozed a bunch of redskins one week. That does not make him a typical bulky TE. If anything it means he can run by you or run over you.

Gronk & Witten are better than Graham (overall). I'd take also Dallas Clark over Graham. Gonzalez has better hands than Graham.

Truthteller · Jan 17, 2012

white is right said:
Even Derek Jeter is probably 80 percent White as the average American Black has a shade less than 20 percent White ancestry.

I actually stood next to Derek Jeter's uncle, Gary Jeter, at a trading card show as a child -- I think it was after he retired from the NFL? He seemed to be 100% black. That's his father's brother. His father is just as black, or darker than Gary. My point was simply that we can't assume Jeter and Blake Griffin are 1/4 or 1/8 because they are lighter than, for example, Josh Freeman....Graham could very well be 1/4 or 1/8th, but he could be like Jeter or Griffin -- 1/2. NBA player Steph Curry is usually assumed to be a mulatto, but he's the product of black man and very light skinned black woman.

Caption: The very "handsome" Gary Jeter poses for Topps, circa 1982?

white is right · Jan 17, 2012

Yes it appears Derek and Gary Jeter are related, so I guess Derek at best has 60 to 65 percent White ancestry. I did see his father on the HBO special on Jeter's pursuit of 3000 hits and his father appeared to have at least 20 percent White ancestry it's possible he just came out lighter ie Blacks that have green eyes. http://books.google.ca/books?id=zgr...s Derek Jeter related to Gary Jeter?&f=false

FootballDad · Jan 18, 2012

I generally don't place nearly as much stock in "percentages" or "how many drops of blood" a player has, but in how they are caste-perceived. After all, the hallmark of the caste system is the artificial promotion of players based primarily on their skin color or obvious ancestry. If a player is given recruiting priority because of this, or given "caste" advantages as a result, then I will not support that player as they are unfairly benefitting, and white athletes are ignored as a result. That is pretty much the sole criteria that I use, now whether a player such as Graham is "white" or not depends on how he fits. I have not investigated his past to see if he has profited from his ancestry or not.

Don Wassall · Jan 18, 2012

FootballDad said:
I generally don't place nearly as much stock in "percentages" or "how many drops of blood" a player has, but in how they are caste-perceived. After all, the hallmark of the caste system is the artificial promotion of players based primarily on their skin color or obvious ancestry. If a player is given recruiting priority because of this, or given "caste" advantages as a result, then I will not support that player as they are unfairly benefitting, and white athletes are ignored as a result. That is pretty much the sole criteria that I use, now whether a player such as Graham is "white" or not depends on how he fits. I have not investigated his past to see if he has profited from his ancestry or not.

Very good definition.

The rule here is that we can root for any athlete we want, without a "purity test" being imposed by others.

As far as Graham, he had a very tough childhood -- placed by his drug addict mother in the modern equivalent of an orphanage, didn't know his father and from what I can gleen he was subsequently more or less adopted and raised by another White woman. My guess is that he has a White mother and black father. The corporate media constantly praises his character and how he's perservered and overcome a lot. I hope that's true, but too often the media goes way overboard in praising the character of blacks who turn out not to be close to the media's image of them.

Westside · Jan 18, 2012

Don Wassall said:
Very good definition. but too often the media goes way overboard in praising the character of blacks who turn out not to be close to the media's image of them.

Don, may I present our pal Tikki Barber. :rant:

dwid · Jan 18, 2012

Truthteller said:
Footballdad, I would absolutely bet that being an obvious mulatto was beneficial to Jimmy Graham, in the sense that it got him a Combine invite. According to what I've read, Graham was a marginal ACC basketball player, with no shot to make it to the NBA. Like former Duke point quard Greg Paulus, he decided to use his "5th year" in college to try football. Graham was pretty average at Miami as a tight end for one season, yet, again, he got a coveted Combine invite.

Would a pure white ex-basketball player with a similar skill set have received the same chance? That's not real likely, in my opinion. After all, how many outstanding white college WR's, RB's, DB's and TE's fail to get a Combine invite and are then forced to "excel" at Pro Days, with only a handful of scouts watching?

of course he would not have gotten the chance if he were White, but living in the New Orleans area, most dwfs fans I have talked to see him as White, as well as Lance Moore. Sometimes blacks will say something on message boards but it falls on deaf ears. Only the diehard fans that go to training camps (very few, they used to hold them in Jackson where it was 100 degrees and humid) know that those two are mixed. As for Gronkowski benefiting from Brady, I think he would excel on any team. Does anybody seriously believe Graham would have panned out if he didn't land on the Saints with Brees? Same with Colston and every other receiver they have. For such a dominant qb with amazing stats, there is no reciever that stands out in skillset.

as far as looks being deceiving and certain black players with White features having dark dads, doesn't necessarily mean that the dad is 100 percent black. I have met half breeds who are very dark. Sometimes it just comes out. I know creoles of color get upset when they have a "black" child. Yes light skinned blacks in this area look down on darker individuals.

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