National Signing Day 2011

the Arkansas Razorbacks signed 30 players ... 10 are White. does this low number still make them the "Whitest" class in the SEC? *puke*


there is already talk of safety Brett Weir (6-4, 215)and his 4.4 speed bulking up and playing ... you guessed it ... tight end. and the incredible playmaking of wide receiver Kane Whitehurst? yeah, he'll be a "great special teams player." wow. just wow.

on a related note ... this column by Ivan Maisel, Signing day optimism can quickly fade, illustrates just how little these so-called recruiting "experts" actually know. yet the DWFs swallow it whole, again and again. an excerpt:

But -- and I don't want to get too technical here -- who honestly knows which class will be any good? To call recruiting an inexact science is an insult to science, not to mention inexactitude.


Here's what I'm talking about: take the 2006 list of players in the ESPNU 150 and cross-reference it with the 2010 NFL draft. You will find 20 names. Run through the 2009 draft and you'll find nine more players who came out as juniors.


In fact, more players from the 2006 ESPNU 150 have transferred, been dismissed or failed to make their grades (36) than have been drafted in 2009 and 2010 (29).

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Jack Lambert said:

Here's BYU's class. The Only thing I have to say about these guys is, they have been going so poly crazy this year, that even the black players are feeling left out from BYU. One other thing, hopefully, Preston Hadley will stay at CB for the Cougars.

19 Commits, 10 white, 7 poly, 1 black

Points-20

CB/S-4pts.- Preston Hadley
TE-4pts.- Colby Jorgensen, Matt Sumsion
ATH-3pts.- Stehly Reden
LB-4pts.- Austin Heder, Adam Pulsipher
QB-2pts.- Alex Karesa
OL-2pts.- Ryker Mathews, Brian Rawlinson
K-1pt.- Corey Edwards

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Not to be a spoilsport, but Kuresa and Hadley aren't white. Kuresa is a poly and Hadley looks like a black/poly mix.

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Jack Lambert said:

Here's BYU's class. The Only thing I have to say about these guys is, they have been going so poly crazy this year, that even the black players are feeling left out from BYU. One other thing, hopefully, Preston Hadley will stay at CB for the Cougars. 19 Commits, 10 white, 7 poly, 1 black Points-20 CB/S-4pts.- Preston Hadley TE-4pts.- Colby Jorgensen, Matt Sumsion ATH-3pts.- Stehly Reden LB-4pts.- Austin Heder, Adam Pulsipher QB-2pts.- Alex Karesa OL-2pts.- Ryker Mathews, Brian Rawlinson K-1pt.- Corey Edwards

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Thanks for the info, BYU

Jimmy Chitwood said:

the Arkansas Razorbacks signed 30 players ... 10 are White. does this low number still make them the "Whitest" class in the SEC? *puke*

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I recognize the player in the top left of that picture. Barnett. He changed his commitment at the last minute to Michigan.
So, that's one less of them...

%Percentage wise Vanderbilt probably leads Arkansas?? 9 out of 21 vs 10 out of 29??

Southern Miss has been one of the least white teams recently...out of the 25 signees...9 white players(a lot for them)...17 Pts

WR-Max Mason 6'-6" &amp; Cooper Harrington
DE-Michael Brinson 6'-4' 285 (4.8!)
LB-Trent Johnson
TE- Colin Jarbo
QB-Rickey Lloyd
OL- Jordan Greene, Garrett Clark, Lance ShuffertEdited by: TwentyTwo

Here's Colorado's signing class. Despite signing only two of them this year, I think Colorado's another team that's made recruiting polynesians a top priority. At least the new coach recruited two white QBs.

Colorado
19 Commits- 8 white, 2 poly, 9 black

Points-15
WR-3pts.- Nelson Spruce
S-3pts.- Will Harlos
QB-4pts.- Brent Burnette, Stevie Dorman
LB-2pts.- Brady Daigh
OL-2pts.- Marc Mustoe, Alex Kelley
K-1pt.- Will Oliver

Update: Army done. That completes the Service Academies.

Jimmy Chitwood said:

on a related note ... this column by Ivan Maisel, Signing day optimism can quickly fade, illustrates just how little these so-called recruiting "experts" actually know. yet the DWFs swallow it whole, again and again. an excerpt:
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But -- and I don't want to get too technical here -- who honestly knows which class will be any good? To call recruiting an inexact science is an insult to science, not to mention inexactitude.


Here's what I'm talking about: take the 2006 list of players in the ESPNU 150 and cross-reference it with the 2010 NFL draft. You will find 20 names. Run through the 2009 draft and you'll find nine more players who came out as juniors.


In fact, more players from the 2006 ESPNU 150 have transferred, been dismissed or failed to make their grades (36) than have been drafted in 2009 and 2010 (29).

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That's what happens when depth-charts are 4-deep in blacks.. Unhappiness will invariably come to the fore.

Blacks aren't "brilliant" to cram themselves into LSU, Alabama, Florida, Georgia and so on. Many are thoroughly-overrated, and likely have very little understanding of "PT."

P.S. - Kentucky's "coach" is clearly another "black power-type" -- as Kentucky is one of the SEC programs that would be very attractive to Northern Whites and it's nearby. Enjoy being cellar-dwellars.

it turns out my above post claiming that 10 Arkansas signees were White was in error, as the picture of reference shows two non-signees. there are actually only 8 ... meaning two of the White kids in the pic are incorrect. as far as i can tell, the athlete in the bottom right corner is not an actual Razorback signee, nor is the athlete second from the left in the second row from the bottom. i don't know who those two players are ...

Riddlewire's original number of 8 Arkansas signees is correct. sadly, that still places Arkansas with the second "most" White signing class of 2011 in the SEC. wow. *puke*

I am not new to castefootball as I have been "lurking" on this site for years. My disgust with this year's D1 signees has prompted me to finally register and start posting!

Here is a link to highlights for Evan Peterson of Issaquah Wa. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nPWYCRz8QA

I think this young man's treatment is the most blatant example yet of anti-white bias. He played in the best league in the state of Wa, the suburban conference on Seattle's eastside for the largest classification. He scored 36 touchdowns and racked up over 3,000 yds in receiving in this league yet not a single D1 or even Big Sky school offered him a scholarship. One newspaper article in the fall said he didn't pass the "eye test". He is PLENTY big enough to play and star in the PAC 10. In fact, Washington signed a reciever who is practically the same size (with VASTLY inferior stats) who played in a semi-rural conference in central Washington. Of course, the signee had an acceptable name (Jamal) and the all important appropriate skin color.

There was one receiver in the conference who outperformed him-Kasen Williams. Williams is twenty five lbs heavier and an inch or two taller. Williams was named the National Player of the Year!!

Steve Sarkisian, the head coach at Washington, played on a practically all white BYU team that went 13-1 and won the Cotton Bowl in 1997. Yet he can't see that this kid, Evan Peterson, is probably better than anybody the Huskies have put on the field in the last five years.

I think one problem is that many of the white, suburban high school coaches think D1 skill player is synonymous with black skin color. In spite of watching their kids outperform everyone they line up against, they automatically assume that Rivals....etc are the real recruiting experts and fail to advocate to the d1 schools for their superstar performers.

Evan Peterson will likely walk on at Wa. State or Idaho. While he may wind up starring, and being an NFL "fringe" prospect, he will have the added burden of having to claw his way over the inner city midgets and affletes that were given scholarships instead of him. He was denied his place in the sun on Signing Day-no TV cameras, newspaper articles, references in the recruiting blogs-and it is extraordinarly unfair.

I have been on notice about the castesystem given my own experiences back in the late 80's ( I will post about that later), but I am thankful to castefootball for truly educating me about the extent of anti-white bias that exists. If only the DWF's would wake up!

Good first post, Wideawake. Welcome to the boards.

Great to have you posting, Wideawake. Welcome to CF.

UGA signed JUCO, sumo DT John Jenkins (6'4, 340) to bring their afrolete total to 21 (of 26) signees. The DWF "Dawg Nation" is hoping Jenkins will be another Nick (un)Fairly or (fellow sumo) Terrence "Mt.Bloaty".

I noticed early this week that the Atlanta Journal-Constitution had 8 signees pictured in the sports section and only 2 of them were White. Predictably, 1 is a QB going to Georgia State and another is an OL. Pathetic stuff. rajincajun told me that LSU only signed 3 Whites, as TwentyTwo posted above, and none of them are from Louisiana. The biggest program in the state won't give 1 White native athlete a scholarship. What a sick joke!

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I noticed early this week that the Atlanta Journal-Constitution had 8 signees pictured in the sports section and only 2 of them were White. Predictably, 1 is a QB going to Georgia State and another is an OL. Pathetic stuff. rajincajun told me that LSU only signed 3 Whites, as TwentyTwo posted above, and none of them are from Louisiana. The biggest program in the state won't give 1 White native athlete a scholarship. What a sick joke!

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Colonel I agree its a sad thing to see. One Louisiana school I feel is heading in the right direction recruiting wise is Tulane. Their last recruiting class was head and shoulders above LSU's from a caste perspective which still isn't sayin much. Far too many affletes being recruited at the skill postions. Though they didsign a talented safety and brought in several white tightends, one DE, and a solid white QB along with some white o linemen. 8\22 I'd like to see them up to about 11 and offer more white LBs, RBs, and Wrs!

I'm glad to live in the midwest where there is a plethora of great white friendly teams playingin Big Ten country!

Well I live in the Deep (Gulf) South,,,and followed LSU since I was 7-8 years old...this has become painful over the last few years...Louisiana I'm sure is in the Top 5 Blackest States. Compared to other SEC "States" Louisiana has produced their fair share of white talent' &amp; LSU got most of them in past years...Hester, Steltz, Hunt, Whitworth, Niswanger, Cutrera....If you were a Coach and saw thatthe Top 40 Post Season List in Louisiana for 2011 thatonly has 2 WHITES?? Are these "so-called Experts" Rivals, Scout, Sporting News, etc....the know all?? to the Coaches?? Why can't they tear the list up?? Mississippi is the blackest state..and there list have been like that for a while...

2011 has been a year like no other; the worst by far from a caste stand-point...I can't understand how/why the white players disappeared this year??

LSU had 3 stand-out/solid signees(should have had 5)on DEFENSElast yearin 10' DE-Jordan Allen(La); LB's Luke Muncie (Tx) &amp; DJ Welter (La)...they should make an impact before it's said &amp; done..only Vanderbilt had more white defensive recruits?? DE-Houston Bates(La)&amp; DT-Cassius Marsh(Ca) were commited to LSU but changed at last minute to Illinios &amp; UCLA....that's more defensive activity from LSU...than Ole Myth, Florida, So Carolina &amp; Georgia COMBINED!Edited by: TwentyTwo

I think his name should be Mes Niles or "Les (Whites) More Niles"- what a coward and a crock of a man. The guy has completely kow towed to the WhiteRivals/Yahooligan, BrownieScout, BSPN, Weenieworld, Bro' Football Weekly mantra. To Les (right kind of) Nile- Jatasun Beachem(ed) Whale or Brad "fat boy" Rogers are better tailbacks than Nile Knapp or Marc Mauro, LMFAO. Sure trust the potato chip eating, closet homosexual nerds- who used to get locked in lockers- who sit in cubicles and fawn over anything black, United Negro College Fund or cultural Marxist instead of actually scouting talent yourself Les. I guess he learned nothing from Jacob Hester and Craig Steltz having a prominent role on the recent championship team. Nope that's not it...he's a LSU "puppet"/prostitute.

Virtually all FBS coaches and their understudies are cowards so expect the FBS to slowly become more subservient to the White Rivals media, bow to the DWF "opinions" and cohesiveness of any inner city bruthas (if they're troubled) they bring in with 3, 4 or 5 stars under their name. The FBS will start looking more like the NFL- UNLESS we help sober up more fans and athlete's families and grow this grassroots movement. Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins

Is it me or does it seem the QB position is quickly becoming saturated with blacks?...unfortunately i do not see this as a trend stopping either...only getting worse

I started a topic on another website last week "Louisiana vs Tennessee" in HS Football...Coach Derek Dooley(Tennessee) said he had to recruit O-O-S bec he could NOT sign 15 players per year in home state...my question was WHY? With a pop. of over 6.2 million...where LSU never has problems signing 15 players from their home state with pop. of only about 4.5 million...got some interesting replies back...some of it turned to race.




HERE are some of the replies I wanted to share....
*What is the african-american population in Tennesee? (no I am not being racist) but as you go further north the demographics change and the common theme of florida, Mississippi, Texas, Louisiana and Alabam is a good-sized African-american population that produces some damn good football players.


*C you're not being racist asking about the African American population in Tenn.you're being realistic. Look at the rosters of the NFL to see how the breakdown is between White and Black players. One must also figure the warm vs cold weather to understand why northeastern areas fail t produce as many D-1 players per capita


*agree completely about weather; May be part of the reason Louisiana produces low numbers of hockey players
*It's just the culture. High school football is a more important part of the culture in La. than in Tennessee. Maybe more kids play basketball there.

And HERE was an interesting response from a black poster.....

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What is wrong with asking about the african american population in any state? This is rdiculous. All kinds of -isms exist but people can ask intelligent questions. if you're a racist then I'm a freaking elitist. Let's also remember that all over the world(regardless of color) for the most part, kids who grow up in economically challenged areas excel in sports simply because if you can' afford a quality education like most people in these areas can't....sports presents a much cheaper(though much much more riskier)options. This is a general realism...

In America Most(notice i said most) of our sports stars(NBA, NFL, MLB, Hockey) are minorities, immigrants, and some whites who are economically disadvantages. Asians are slighlty diff in that they either sacrifice all for either education or business.
In spain you see tennis, soccer, etc stars coming from the slums, poor areas
In England you see a lot of poor whites and imigrants turning to soccer, tennis, boxing, etc

Whether we admit it our not success via education will alwasy trump success by sports for a number of reasons. Some of these reasons are that If two individuals spent 4 hrs a day, one on sports and the other on a decent eductation, the one geting an education would have a very very high probability of sucess and quality of life over a 30 yr period.ut a 70% success rate) The one pursing sports has a very very high probability for failure (Less than 5%!) over a 30yr period. Its the lottery..and which population demographic makes plans of the future based on the lottery?

And this reply ticked me off...

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*It's simply a lack of athletes... HS football is very big here but Tennessee doesn't produce the level of athlete that Louisiana does. I've seen 15 years of HS football in this state and the athletes just aren't the same. It has a lot to do with demographics, there is a much larger minority population in LA than TN (if you think saying African Americans are more athletic than caucasians is racist you simply don't watch sports). Only a handfull of players from TN go D-1 each year and most of those come out of Memphis. Just the way it is and is a reason TN will be at a disadvantage in football for years to come. Even back in the 90's when the Vols were at their prime most of the roster was from out of state.

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One of the reasons for the Caste System is the very real fact that MOST football players "aren't larger than life." In other words, coaches think they "can get away" with having all-black secondaries and backfields.

The average linebacker seems to be around 6-foot-1, so coaches think that they can overrepresent blacks there, too. And, when it gets to the D-line, there's all these short-stacks at DT and many smaller DEs..

There's all these weight-loss "reality" programs on TV now, right? I can honestly say that I've seen numerous young Whites that were 6-foot-2 and over 300 pounds.. they exist. And, I remember some cases where they weight-trained and lost the fat and gained significant muscle, and they looked like tanks!

And, let's not try to inflate black genetics (like Rivals/Scout inflating size/measurables), because, on a daily basis, I see overwhelmingly blacks that are only 5-7 to 5-9. Sorry, but not all blacks are 6-10 basketball players...

Because of the Caste System, one can find a lot of White size in the FCS (particularly, it seems, on teams' in the Midwest and Northwest). Some in Texas and California as well. On the other hand, look at the HBCs these days, where most of the blacks are small.

And then there's a team like Air Force that has "shown" that it can compete, and the Whites are usually incredibly fit and full of lean muscle. That can be "duplicated" all across the USA.

I know some people might want to bring up "speed"... well, from watching a good amount of SEC football last season, I saw a bunch of slow and underwhelming DBs.. some were downright awkward, and couldn't even stop sCam!

Me and several relatives cleaned out my loved one's apartment this morning (wanted to avoid another month of rent). Afterward, we took some of the items (some furniture and clothing) to the local Goodwill.

The guy working at the Goodwill was another very short - and fat - negro. I don't claim to be huge, but I towered over him. After getting that done with, several of our family got burgers from a decent (but kind of a rip-off) hamburger place. What can I say.. I saw more "ebony titans and titanettes."

Where are all the "superhumans?" Sure, not every White is a physical specimen, but who is being promoted as the "genetic Gods?" That's right, BLACKS.

Let me guess?? Which one of these talented RB'sdid not pass the "Eye-Test" bec of their skin condition??

Kyle Karempelis (4.4) w/ NO D-1 Offers?? Very comparable to Warrick Dunn...we all know Florida Statewould neverconsider a tremendous talent like this...but after Georgia Tech got drilled by Air Force in their Bowl Game...you'd think they give this dude a chance?? His coach is perplexed with no offers made...wish more coaches would start telling the real reason they are looked over!!

Garrett Steele's HS coach is baffled as well...rumor had it Sacramento State offered...after having interest from UCLA, Fresno, Stanford, Oregon St?? did these recruiters get cold feet all of the sudden and run the other way?? These stories don't seem coincidental...

Cale Sharp??? Can somebody find out where he is playing??

Rickey Minyard ends up at tiny Nebraska-Kearney....if he weren't so pale he'd be playing big-time ball somewhere!

Even those Badgers from Wisconsin couldn'tbreak-away caste-bust pos for Logan Lauters?? Prefered walk-on??? Or maybe Wisconsin WHITEwater??

Others to watch....
Nick Burrello-Harvard
Luke Shaffer(4.4's)-Northwood...huh?
Kyle Vorster-Georgia State
Zach Keiser- thought Montana, Idahowas interested??
Jacob Swicki...Colgate? Columbia? Marist??

What about Collin Hegerty? Ryan Randall?(Nebraska?) or scat-back Caleb Driver (4.41)?

Good to see Cam McDaniel(Notre Dame)&amp; Zac Langer (Tulsa)...hope to see them get a legit opportunity and not moved to another position...Edited by: TwentyTwo

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<DIV ="msg">Here's a good video of some underrated guys the Grizz landed this year in their recruiting class. Lot of white talent.I see Montana plays Tennessee next year,it would be awesome to see them pull off the upset.


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