2010-11 NFL Playoffs

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Now we are left to pull for a Jets-Packers game. If it is the Steelers and Bears than I will officially boycott the game, as I am sure most here will do as well! I could not stand to see Hatie vs. tomlin and all of the media slobbering over them and their non-Diverse teams!
 

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Fake punt call made by Chung.

By Sean Leahy, USA TODAY
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The botched fake punt the New England Patriots executed in a 28-21 loss to the New York Jets on Sunday was called on the field by safety Patrick Chung.

P Zoltan Mesko told the Worcester Telegram & Gazette that Chung, who serves as Mesko's protector in the punt formation, thought he could steal some yardage.

"We trust the decision Patrick makes," Mesko told the paper. "It just didn't work out on that particular occasion. The coaches trust him to run it and that's why they give him the green light if he has it."

Mesko said Chung saw an advantage based on the number of defenders the Jets had up front. The Patriots faced a fourth-and-4 from their own 38 with 1:14 left in the second quarter on the play.

But Chung fumbled the snap and the Jets took over at the 37. Four plays later, they scored a TD that gave them a 14-3 halftime advantage.

Coach Bill Belichick didn't explain much about the play after the game. "We just made a bad mistake on the play," he said. "Just a bad mistake."
 

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It wasn't necessarily a bad call by Chung, he had a ton of room to make the yardage, easy, IF he manages the "difficult" task of handling the snap.
 

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PoliticallyIncorrect said:
white is right said:
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white is right said:
Sanchez is 3rd generation American. He doesn't speak Spanish and neither does his father. His name is Mark not Marco. His Mexican heritage is remote but because he is of a special ethnic group that the league and media want to fawn over he is an ethnic superhero. Similar to the 1/16th Native American Sam Bradford.
Is White Athletics so weak in this country that we are calling members of the Cherokee nation white now? Is that a joke? No sensible person would consider him white either. 
I would say the reverse. If tribes didn't accept 1/16th members they would cease to exist and there goes federal funding. Foxwoods Casino is owned by the Peaquot tribe that ceased to exist until a White man researched his family history and looked up federal statutes about tribal rights and taxation. Voila a tribe was reborn and White and Black people with marginal Native ancestry get a share of gaming revenue from the casino outside Boston.......
<div>Sam Bradford doesn't look like he is a marginal native ancestry...</div>
While Bradford looks more like 1/4 aboriginal, he is less than Brett Farve who is about 1/4 aboriginal and nobody thinks Farve is aboriginal. To paraphrase my point nobody would think they should be a fireman if they completed 1/16th of the civil servants exam or be mailman if they completed the same amount for that exam. Yet Bradford is a ethnic super hero the liberal media wants to create.
 

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Uh, oh, I'm more "aboriginal" than Sam Bradford, so I'm in danger of being banned by Don, I'm sure!
 

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That 1/4 this and 1/4 that is BS when it comes to native american ancestry. There has always been an inclination to claim that heritage since it's noble and fashionable not to mention lucrative (casino wise). I never believe anyone who says that. I know a white woman, white as rice, that is always talking about her 1/2 mother, yeah sure, that DNA train sure passed her by and I think that is true for Favre (unless you count his gambling as a QB). Show me the DNA test and I'll believe it.
 

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geez, looks like i opened up a pandora's box yesterday with my question, anyways,lets hope the packers beat the bears and for the afc game? eh...i don't really care
 

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jaxvid said:
That 1/4 this and 1/4 that is BS when it comes to native american ancestry. There has always been an inclination to claim that heritage since it's noble and fashionable not to mention lucrative (casino wise). I never believe anyone who says that. I know a white woman, white as rice, that is always talking about her 1/2 mother, yeah sure, that DNA train sure passed her by and I think that is true for Favre (unless you count his gambling as a QB). Show me the DNA test and I'll believe it.



I think what happens is that Americans claiming Indian ancestry are often ignorant of basic math when it comes to genetics. Someone who has an Indian great-great grandparent is only 1/64 Indian; someone with an Indian great-grandparent is 1/16 Indian. Lots of Americans hear that they have an Indian in their background and automatically say they're 1/4 or 1/2 Indian without knowing any better, and in lots of cases there's no Indian ancestry anyway. I've heard so many White Americans claim to be part-Indian that if true there had to have been massive mixing between Whites and Indians, which obviously wasn't the case.
 

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Don Wassall said:
jaxvid said:
That 1/4 this and 1/4 that is BS when it comes to native american ancestry. There has always been an inclination to claim that heritage since it's noble and fashionable not to mention lucrative (casino wise). I never believe anyone who says that. I know a white woman, white as rice, that is always talking about her 1/2 mother, yeah sure, that DNA train sure passed her by and I think that is true for Favre (unless you count his gambling as a QB). Show me the DNA test and I'll believe it.
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<div>I think what happens is that Americans claiming Indian ancestry are often ignorant of basic math when it comes to genetics. Someone who has an Indian great-great grandparent is only 1/64 Indian; someone with an Indian great-grandparent is 1/16 Indian. Lots of Americans hear that they have an Indian in their background and automatically say they're 1/4 or 1/2 Indian without knowing any better, and in lots of cases there's no Indian ancestry anyway. I've heard so many White Americans claim to be part-Indian that if true there had to have been massive mixing between Whites and Indians, which obviously wasn't the case.</div>

I've known easily over one hundred Southern Whites like myself who have a very small percentage of native ancestry. I've known less than half a dozen who are 1/16 or more and actual members of a tribe. Ignorance of genetic math is part of it and ignorance of their own family tree (and where the native blood comes in) is a huge part of it. The majority of people don't know how far back it is because they usually don't know much about their family history in the first place. For most, the native connection is so far back to make it hardly worth claiming/mentioning.
 
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Toby Hillis said:
Alln2, this would of been the PERFECT year to finally have that one black QB who lead his team through the majority of his teams regular season games, through the playoffs to the Super Bowl and won a championship. I'm talking about Mike Vick of course and the season he had was well beyond anybody's expectations. He played at a high level for most of the year, yet his season ended by throwing a pick inthe endzone. I think the factthat there has still NEVER been a black QB to do what I just said should just end the notion of a fixed NFL(along with countless other clues that would point this out). It's not likethe fixed-NFL-powers that bewould think, "we really want to let a black QB win a Super Bowl, but if we let a black QB win just one, that will blowour cover and everyone will know we're a fixed league." Also, remember that the Pats team that won 3 Super Bowls(including the one whereBrady beat a puking Mcnabb. Why wasnt that one fixed?) featured a RELATIVELY good amount of White players. Sorry Don, just had to get that out...

Didn't a brutha named Doug Williams already do that in the 1987 (SB 22) season for Gibbskins I (as I like to call Gibbs' first go round in DC)? IIRC Williams got his break when Jay Schroeder went down in the season opener and Williams took it from there, to the point that he was SB MVP.

John




"Initially Williams served as the backup for starting quarterback Jay Schroeder, but after Schroeder became injured, Williams stepped in and led the Redskins to an opening-day victory against the Philadelphia Eagles. It would be one of three times in 1987 that Williams subbed for Schroeder and led the team to victory (the other two were 11/15 vs. Detroit and 12/26 at Minnesota). Williams only started two games, 9/20 at Atlanta and 11/23 vs. the Rams. While both starts were losses, at the end of the season, when the Redskins had qualified for the playoffs, Williams, with his 94.0 passer rating, was chosen as the starter. He led the team to Super Bowl XXII in which they routed the Denver Broncos, becoming the first black quarterback to play in a Super Bowl, and as of Super Bowl XLIV, the only black quarterback to win one." -Wikipedia

Also, stats (including starts) on Pro Football Reference
 

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Hopefully, posting solely on football will clear my head some. I was just thinking about how all the Patriots white players played very solid (although not special performances, other than maybe Edelman).

It was basically three black players and Belichick that negatively effected the game for the Pats the most.

First Crumpler drops a TD which costs the Pats four points. Then there was the fake punt that Chung called where he fumbled the snap which could have been a 14 point swing if the Pats scored seven on that drive or at least it would have been three or seven less points for the Jets who got the ball in great position with a minute and a half to go. Then Branch drops a 4th down ball that would have been a crucial first down and given the Pats a chance at seven. That's anywhere from a seven to 25 point swing of points and the Pats lost by seven.

Belichick was outcoached as well. He got too aggressive at times and in retrospect should have taken the 52 yard FG. He should have at least game planned better at half time and told Brady to throw the shorter and intermediate routes to Welker or Woodhead more since Branch was blanketed so well by Revis. A very disappointing outcome.

Lets go Pack, beat Hatie and his Hatieful Black Bears!
 

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This was a lose for us, but certainly nothing to mull over for more than one day. Though one of the whitest teams in the NFL the Patriots are still a majority black team. Even if they were an all white team named the New England Nordics and undefeated in the regular season it doesn't ensure them victory in a game of football. A football game is rather short. A single bad pass, a dropped ball, a dropped snap on a fake punt could effect the outcome of any game.

We have tended to give a little too much credit to Bill Belichek and therefore take the lose too personally. Belichek is not on some secret caste football mission to build the leagues only all white team. He is just a little bit less unfriendly to white offensive skill players than most. I'll give him credit for picking up Wes Welker years ago and drafting Edelman, but Danny Woodhead fell into his lap with stars aligning Hillis/Shanahan style. Woodhead was probably just picked up to play head games with the Jets and a day later Kevin Faulk has a season ending injury. While Woodhead was used all season, law firm got the majority of carries all season long. After a year featuring his explosiveness, excelling in Welker's role, and a great playoff performance Julian Edelman wasted most of the year on the bench.

Ultimately the Patriots lost because a couple a physical errors and they were out-coached - white chess player vs. white chess player. Simply running the ball more in the first half and not going to the hurry-up in the second is a coaching mistake - not rocket science. All in all the Patriots weren't on their toes and didn't put their best foot forward.

What about the theory that I've read numerous times on CF that.. "more Whites equals more wins?"

That's likely why people are so upset. That message has been ingrained on this site, and people want it to become more than a theory; They want it to become more of a hard-fact.

While New England did win the AFC East over the Jets' -- they lost this important playoff game (this important "test" of the theory), and they are now DONE.

IMO, it's not good enough that New England and Indy are "better" than atrocious coal-black "teams" like Arizona, Carolina, Denver, Cinci and Washington. "Our teams" need to step-up in the damn playoffs.

I can't really picture the Jets' going into Pittsburgh and winning this AFC Championship. Some people will point to the Jets' having Revis and say, "How can a mere mortal (Big Ben) beat a team that has him in their secondary?!!"

I could easily see it happen, and Pittsburgh should be able to get some pressure on Sanchez. So, now, there's a very distinct possibility of a Tomlin/Smith "Super Bowl".. and, this, after ESPN has just done all their "MLK worship" and "Blacks are oppressed" nonsense.

In the aftermath of the Pats' loss, I could have just said -- "well, I don't like fatties like Wilfork, Ron Brace, Gerard Warren and Alge Crumpler. I don't like that they drafted the odious Brandon Spikes. Brandon Merriweather was undeserving of a Pro Bowl nod." While those may be my thoughts from the recent Pats' drafts and FA acquisitions, the truth still holds that we would much rather see New England host Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship game.
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Toby Hillis said:
foreverfree said:
Toby Hillis said:
Alln2, this would of been the PERFECT year to finally have that one black QB who lead his team through the majority of his teams regular season games, through the playoffs to the Super Bowl and won a championship.  I'm talking about Mike Vick of course and the season he had was well beyond anybody's expectations.  He played at a high level for most of the year, yet his season ended by throwing a pick in the endzone.  I think the fact that there has still NEVER been a black QB to do what I just said should just end the notion of a fixed NFL(along with countless other clues that would point this out).  It's not like the fixed-NFL-powers that be would think, "we really want to let a black QB win a Super Bowl, but if we let a black QB win just one, that will blow our cover and everyone will know we're a fixed league."  Also, remember that the Pats team that won 3 Super Bowls(including the one where Brady beat a puking Mcnabb. Why wasnt that one fixed?) featured a RELATIVELY good amount of White players.  Sorry Don, just had to get that out...
Didn't a brutha named Doug Williams already do that in the 1987 (SB 22) season for Gibbskins I (as I like to call Gibbs' first go round in DC)? IIRC Williams got his break when Jay Schroeder went down in the season opener and Williams took it from there, to the point that he was SB MVP. John
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"Initially Williams served as the backup for starting quarterback [COLOR=#0066cc">Jay Schroeder[/COLOR">[/u], but after Schroeder became injured, Williams stepped in and led the Redskins to an opening-day victory against the [COLOR=#0066cc">Philadelphia Eagles[/COLOR">[/u]. It would be one of three times in 1987 that Williams subbed for Schroeder and led the team to victory (the other two were 11/15 vs. Detroit and 12/26 at Minnesota). Williams only started two games, 9/20 at Atlanta and 11/23 vs. the Rams. While both starts were losses, at the end of the season, when the Redskins had qualified for the playoffs, Williams, with his 94.0 passer rating, was chosen as the starter. He led the team to [COLOR=#0066cc">Super Bowl XXII[/COLOR">[/u] in which they routed the [COLOR=#0066cc">Denver Broncos[/COLOR">[/u], becoming the first black quarterback to play in a [COLOR=#0066cc">Super Bowl[/COLOR">[/u], and as of [COLOR=#0066cc">Super Bowl XLIV[/COLOR">[/u], the only black quarterback to win one." -Wikipedia
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OK, Toby, you're making sense. I had other things on my mind in the fall of 1987 with my career path, etc. and other than the Eagles (and the NFLPA strike) I didn't pay much attention to football in 1987 til the playoffs. I just remember Schroeder going down in the opener (against the Eagles) and it wasn't until the playoffs that I paid attention to the Redskins and voila there was Williams.

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Oh, but today is MLK day, so perhaps BB was doing his duty.

Yahoo Sports has a photo of Lovie Smith and Tomlin on the page. An article about the wonderful Rooney rule follows. Brother!

So there is Minnesota, Chicago, Indianapolis, Cincinnati,Pittsburgh, Oakland, Tampa Bay and Carolina that have non-white coaches. If the 49ers got their QB situation straightened out they'd have a black coach right now.

8 out of 32 teams - a full two full divisionsout of a league with 8 divisions - that is 25% of the league. How much more before theyconsider the rule has served its purpose?50% of the league? 75%? Will they ever revoke it even if the leaguehas 100% non-whitehead coaches?
 

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I'm still upset about the Patriots losing. However, the way they lost was not a blow to the view here at Caste Football.

The Patriots definitely under-utilized their White weapons. Crumpler got nearly as many targets as Gronkowski, including the critical touchdown drop. Branch got more targets than Welker, including the critical 4th quarter, 4th down drop. Edelman was under-utilized and performed well when given the ball. Woodhead was the only player fully utilized, and he performed well. The Patriots O-Line gave up 5 sacks, which is unusual. However, they were mostly coverage sacks, and Brady looked lethargic and slow in the pocket.

The Patriots defense failed to make any significant plays, whatsoever. The lone White defender, Ninkovich, was injured and left the game after hitting Sanchez causing an incompletion on a critical 3rd down play. Otherwise, the defense was coal black. Having 5 White O-Lineman doesn't make up for the lack of Whites on defense. The Patriots out-gained the Jets in total yardage 372-314.

If there was any lesson for the Patriots to learn from the loss: Fully utilize your White athletes on offense, especially in critical situations. Whiten up your defense. One starter is not sufficient, especially if he goes down with an injury.
 

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They sure didnt have any desire to win. That was clear to see even for a blind man. Gameplan seemed to be get behind, then use up the clock moving the ball. Then score a few points when its too lateso thatthe sheep believe its real, and/or even mock those who dont buy into it. Oh well we do live in upsidedown backwards world.
 
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foreverfree said:
OK, Toby, you're making sense. I had other things on my mind in the fall of 1987 with my career path, etc. and other than the Eagles (and the NFLPA strike) I didn't pay much attention to football in 1987 til the playoffs. I just remember Schroeder going down in the opener (against the Eagles) and it wasn't until the playoffs that I paid attention to the Redskins and voila there was Williams.

John



It's cool man. I started to questionif I was right. Had to look it up to make 100% sure. I was a (very young) Eagles fan at the time myself. The Doug Williams fact was something that I stumbled upon while doing research a couple years back. I never hear that he only started two games that season mentioned--ever! No asterisk, no nothing!
 

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Very depressing results. We could be looking at a Super Bowl with 6 white starters out of 44 players. And two black supremacist coaches as well. It'll be no different from the NBA finals and our people will literally have no dog in the fight if it is Chicago v. Pittsburgh.

God bless the Packers! If they win it all over two black supremacist teams it will be a great blow to the racist caste system.
 

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You gotta feel good about the Packers. He looks like a seasoned veteran out there and has been razor sharp. 31\36 with 366 yards and 3tds is crazy good considering that was on the road in Matty Ice's house. Jordy Nelson and John Kuhn have been getting more involved in the offense and Clay Matthews, A.J. Hawk, Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams, Nick Collins, and B.J. Raji have all held that defense together as a solid unit.
 

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icsept said:
I'm still upset about the Patriots losing. However, the way they lost was not a blow to the view here at Caste Football.

Jason Whitlock reveals the view from his twisted, dark, pea brain. He almost squeals in delight. His reasoning is twisted of course. He is a Negro of course, so this article should give a clue as to how their mindsets are quite different form that of most White people.

Updated Jan 17, 2011 3:49 PM ET
FOXBOROUGH, Mass.
The Jets won the culture war.

After a week's worth of heated trash talk that exposed the disdain between the Jets and the Patriots, Rex Ryan's pack of alleged bad boys humbled Bill Belichick's pack of alleged choirboys 28-21.

Jets-Pats was more than a typical NFL divisional playoff contest. To some degree, it was a battle for the heart and soul of the league.

"It's all about a system with (the Patriots),"Â￾ a Jets executive told me in the postgame locker room. "With us, it's all about the players."Â￾

Rex Ryan's New York Jets are America's No. 1 reality TV show. They're loud, talented, in your face and occasionally wildly irresponsible (Sex Ryan's foot-fetish videos, Antonio Cromartie's baby-mama fetish, etc.). In the buttoned-up, Roger Goodell-disciplined NFL, the Jets come off like the NBA's Miami Heat.

If you had to compare Bill Belichick's Patriots to a basketball team, only the WASPy, boys-next-door Duke Blue Devils fit the description.

In winning three Super Bowls early in the new millennium and consistently fielding outstanding regular-season squads, Belichick perfected the art of choosing overall team character, locker-room chemistry and adherence to rules of media secrecy over loading up on individual talent.

In places such as Kansas City and Atlanta â€" where former Belichick-trained executives have power â€" the "Patriots Way"Â￾ has a pronounced influence. In other cities, the Belichick influence is more subtle.

The Patriots Way is rejected in New York by Rex Ryan. The Jets say what they want, do what they want and they're completely unafraid to call bull(crap) on Belichick and the Patriots.

To the Jets, the Patriots Way is Spygate and hypocrisy. The Patriots cheat and they're phony. They're Eddie Haskell. The locker room America bought as filled with All-American, high-character good guys is really filled with Wes Welkers, the New England receiver who made the game's most critical error days before kickoff when he littered a pregame interview with foot jokes about Rex Ryan and his wife.

"I've never seen anything like that,"Â￾ LaDainian Tomlinson told me. "She's off limits. You don't talk about that man's wife. (Welker) better be glad he didn't say anything about my wife.

"This is how I feel: When it happens to them, it's classless. When they do it, it's a different story."Â￾

Welker, who was benched by Belichick for New England's first series, crossed a line. It's one thing for the media and fans to joke about Ryan's personal life. The players and coaches are peers. They shouldn't participate in anything that embarrasses one of their peer's family members.


Welker handed the Jets the emotional advantage.

"I felt that it motivated a lot of guys,"Â￾ said Mark Brunell, New York's veteran backup quarterback. "It was inappropriate."Â￾

New York fullback Tony Richardson, another longtime veteran, added, "That was personal. Guys will take shots at other guys. But that was personal. There was no reason to bring his family into it. Rex has a son in 10th grade."Â￾

The lone stupidity challenge to Welker's blunder was Belichick's strategic blunder late in the second quarter.

Trailing 7-3 with 70 seconds left in the half and facing fourth-and-4 at the New England 38, Belichick left defensive back Patrick Chung with the option of running a fake punt. Chung dropped the direct snap, and the Jets tackled him for a 1-yard loss.

The Jets capitalized, scoring a quick TD to take a commanding 11-point lead.

The fake was ignorant. There was no reason to force anything at that point. The Pats were getting the second-half kickoff. New England panicked. The alleged "smartest"Â￾ team in football played a dumb football game.

What's even worse is the way Belichick avoided responsibility for the fake punt. He sidestepped all postgame questions about who called the fake. Monday afternoon Chung took responsibility for the botched play. Rex Ryan would've handled the situation by taking full responsibility for the error. The Jets coach would've protected his player.

The Patriots Way protects the system. The Patriots Way is in a bit of trouble.

The Pats fell for Rex and Cromartie's trash-talk bait, and when New York's superior defensive personnel and flawless game plan stopped Tom Brady and Co. from gliding up and down the field, the Patriots turned amateur with their strategy.

Down 10 points in the fourth quarter, Brady chewed up nearly eight minutes of clock with a 14-play, 48-yard drive that featured seven running plays and the Pats sauntering in and out of the huddle as though there would be a fifth quarter.

CBS cameras appeared to catch Belichick complaining about his team's offensive play-calling.

It's now fair to question everything about the Patriots.

They haven't won a Super Bowl since Spygate. Judging by Jay Glazer's FOX Sports pregame story, Belichick and the Patriots were building special-teams, sideline-tripping walls long before the Jets.

Yeah, the Jets won the culture war.
 

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Once I got past the first 3 paragraphs of this wretched article I stopped and became ill. I knew where it was going. It was a negro gloat fest. The writer in certain terms believes in black anti social/all about me/no class TNB vs the whole team/discipline, White way to win. F him.

Next weekend it is imperative that the Packers win then steam roll the jets from our perspective.
 

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Updated Jan 17, 2011 3:49 PM ET

FOXBOROUGH, Mass.

The Jets won the culture war.



After a week's worth of heated trash talk that exposed the disdain between the Jets and the Patriots, Rex Ryan's pack of alleged bad boys humbled Bill Belichick's pack of alleged choirboys 28-21.




The locker room America bought as filled with All-American, high-character good guys is really filled with Wes Welkers, ...


Yeah, because Welker was secretly the worst person in the NFL all along. Obviously a few snide remarks about Ryan's unusual tastes is way worse than Cromartie's indiscriminate breeding or Edward's DUI.
 

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ok, on to the next week, i don't know about the rest of you all, but if it turns out to be a pittsburgh chicago thug fest in the superbowl, then i'm not going to watch that garbage of a game.
 

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Didn't Cromartie threaten to end Welker's career..something like: "his days in a uniform will be numbered". Right, I guess Wes is lower than guys who threaten peoples health and livelihood by simply making some teasing snide play on word comments at an opposing coach to this Afrocentric Jason "Dreadlock".

Bottom line: is the Pats could have easily won this game if there hadn't been a few too many drops fumbles and BB had coached a better game. The game was close as it was.
 
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