Peyton Hillis

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He should have made it on all purpose yards and td's. On pure rushing yards no. I think his stats were blunted by sharing the carries over the first two games of the season and being banged up for 3 games. Like I said in the Pro Bowl thread I started if he was still a "fullback" he would have easily made the team as Vonta Leach was the equivalent of the high school guy who graduated without ever attending class....
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Fantasy Football is a good judgement of a player's overall value or at least overall production. Peyton Hillis is still second overall to only Arian Foster in FF points. He was snubbed.
 

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Joe Thomas is a jibroni and Peyton Hillis was snubbed out of the Pro-Bowl.
 

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My guess is that the fans voted heavily for Hillis, but the (black) players voted overwhelmingly against him, and likely most of the media voters as well.
 

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Don, you are probably right about that.
 

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Colonel_Reb said:
Joe Thomas is a jibroni and Peyton Hillis was snubbed out of the Pro-Bowl.


what is a jibroni?
 

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Jimmy Chitwood said:
Colonel_Reb said:
Joe Thomas is a jibroni and Peyton Hillis was snubbed out of the Pro-Bowl.
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<div>what is a jibroni? </div>

In this case, Joe Thomas is being stupid, or a jibroni. There are several other meanings to the word and even different spellings, like jabroni.
 

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In this case, Joe Thomas is being stupid, or a jibroni. There are several other meanings to the word and even different spellings, like jabroni.

ah, thanks. i vaguely recalled the term being used by "rasslin'" fans a while back, but i couldn't recall what it meant.
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i know this, though. Joe Thomas is a heck of a tackle ... even if he does overestimate the abilities of Mike Bell.
 

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Jimmy Chitwood said:
Colonel_Reb said:
In this case, Joe Thomas is being stupid, or a jibroni. There are several other meanings to the word and even different spellings, like jabroni.
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<div>ah, thanks. i vaguely recalled the term being used by "rasslin'" fans a while back, but i couldn't recall what it meant.
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<div>i know this, though. Joe Thomas is a heck of a tackle ... even if he does overestimate the abilities of Mike Bell.</div></div>

Agreed.
 

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Hillis was named an alternate for the Pro Bowl today. It probably means he will play as MJD looks like he is out for the rest of the season.
 

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white is right said:
Hillis was named an alternate for the Pro Bowl today. It probably means he will play as MJD looks like he is out for the rest of the season.

Well, that is some</font> consolation.
 
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Colonel_Reb said:
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Hillis was named an alternate for the Pro Bowl today. It probably means he will play as MJD looks like he is out for the rest of the season.
Well, that is some</font> consolation.

To all my fellow CasteFootballers, please don't take offense at this. What Peyton Hillis did this year was monumental in every imaginable way. 2010 will be looked at as a huge turning point year when we talk about the emergence and waning of the caste system.

That being said, Hillis leading the league in fumbles, however they may have occurred, probably hurt his consideration as an All-Pro running back. If he eighty-sixes this problem, Hillis will rightfully take his place among the elite NFL players next year!
 

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You are probably right about that, Electric Slide. Old barriers usually don't get shattered with one blow. They slowly weaken over time and cracks begin to form that can then be widened. It is tough to see progress happen so slowly on that level, even if Peyton Hillis managed to shatter a huge barrier in his first year with the opportunity to do so.
 

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I still say two of those fumbles weren't actual fumbles in the Bills game. They recovered them and it didn't affect the ball position so no review. Bradshaw has 7 fumbles as well as Benson. Adrian Peterson had 18 in a two year period and is considered elite. IMO fumbles lost should only be counted, a qb doesn't have a stat when a pass is almost intercepted but dropped.
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The fact that a few years ago Vince Young went to the PB and Welker didn't tells you all you need to know about that African beauty contest.
 

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<H1 =entry-title>Peyton Hillis Means More to Browns Than Pro Bowl Voters Ever Imagined</H1>
<DIV =byLine sizset="91" sizcache="1">By Barry Barnes
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<DIV =shortBio>Each year after the day when the Pro Bowlers are announced, the snub talks begins. And this season is no different.

The talent pool in the NFL increases each season, causing the voting for the league's best to participate in the Pro Bowl to be more difficult. Voters base the majority of their decisions on stats and even with the fans, coaches and players participation in the voting process, outstanding athletes get overlooked because of their teams' poor records and because they are not household names. This was probably why Browns running back Peyton Hillis was over looked.

Arian Foster is completely deserving of his honor because he leads the league in rushing with 1,436 yards and all running backs in receiving yards with 594. Jamaal Charles and Maurice Jones-Drew had great seasons, but did Hillis get a fair shake during the voting?

Foster, Charles and Drew ranks in the top five among running backs for rushing yards. But do team's situations and value count for an individual?

The Browns are 5-10 and in the rebuilding mode. But in terms of situations and value, Hillis should have been on the top on the list. Hillis was the Browns' offense for 2010. He may be 12th in rushing with 1,164 yards with 11 touchdowns, but Hillis is 36th in the league in receptions with 60, in which he's third among running backs in that category.

For the Browns, Hillis is the leading rusher and he's second on the team in receptions, just one catch behind tight end Benjamin Watson with 61, and has two touchdown catches. Hillis did fumble eight times, which is great considering that this is the first time since high school the former Razorback has carried the full load as the featured back. Unlike Foster, Charles and Jones-Drew, Hillis isn't surrounded by outstanding talent.

As a member of the AFC North, where physicality is a must, Hillis performed on a high level against the Steelers, Bengals and the prideful Ravens rushing defense.

Although Hillis is a second alternate and Jones-Drew (knee) already is a question mark for the game, nothing beats being recognized from the start.

"With Peyton, he's had an outstanding season in so many different ways with running the ball, catching the ball, the threat that he's added to the offense, the amount of touchdowns and all of that, and also the guy," Browns coach Eric Mangini said when asked about the disappointment of Hillis not being voted for the Pro Bowl. "You guys have talked to him enough times, you know what kind of person he is. He's going to be a productive player here for a long time with a chance to be really an outstanding player.

"He's also going to be a tremendous part of the community whether it's charity work, he's just what you look for. I'm really happy that he's here."

<DIV =shortBio>http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/12/30/peyton-hillis-means-more-to-browns-than-pro-bowl-voters-ever-ima/
 

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i am glad that Peyton got some credit, at least:

Hillis, Thomas honored: Hillis was a unanimous selection for Browns Player of the Year and Thomas earned the Dino Lucarelli Good Guy Award as voted on by the local chapter of the Pro Football Writers of America.

The Good Guy award is given to a player for providing cooperation with the media and for how he carries himself in the community and with his teammates.

Thomas, who was also voted to his fourth straight Pro Bowl, is also the Browns' 2010 Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee. The honor recognizes a player's community service as well as playing excellence. The three finalists will be named and be present at the Super Bowl, where the man of the year will be announced.

"I think it's great that Joe has this opportunity and it think it's great too that this week he gets to play against another Pro Bowler (in Pittsburgh's James Harrison)," Mangini said.

On Hillis' award, Mangini said: "He's had an outstanding season in so many different ways with running the ball, catching the ball, the threat that he's added to the offense, the amount of touchdowns and all of that . . . He's going to be a productive player here for a long time with a chance to be really an outstanding player."

Thomas' man of the year nomination came, in part, because of his trip to Afghanistan with the USO and his participation with the Wounded Warrior Project.
 

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For one any White male, and God forbid, if he has a girl friend, who books a flight and hotel to Hawaii, to go see a Pro Bowl, is truely the vilest of DWF. 'Yeah, babe lets go to Hawaii to watch all of the supa affelets run half ass, and show us their stadium brighten smiles. Pearl Harbor Memorial? Sorry Honey, I have to get back to the states for work no time for that." Pathetic!!!
 

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Westside said:
For one any White male, and God forbid, if he has a girl friend, who books a flight and hotel to Hawaii, to go see a Pro Bowl, is truely the vilest of DWF. 'Yeah, babe lets go to Hawaii to watch all of the supa affelets run half ass, and show us their stadium brighten smiles. Pearl Harbor Memorial? Sorry Honey, I have to get back to the states for work no time for that." Pathetic!!!


Westside, you are getting more and more jaded by the day, my friend.
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This website has definitely had a impact on you because the tone of your posts is very different from when you first started. Not a complaint, just a observation.
 

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It's started already...
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9 minutes ago - The Browns might regret trading RBs Jerome Harrison
and James Davis. Power back Peyton Hillis wore down at season's end.
There's no guarantee he wasn't a one-year wonder. The Browns are banking
too heavily on unproven Montario Hardesty (knee), who spent the year on
IR. Browns RapidReports
 

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Yeah because those guys have proven sooo much! Jerome Harrison was a one game wonder, against the Chiefs who had a poor run defense. Then he failed to average over 4 ypc the last two games, but had like 100+ carries in that 3 game period. Browns fans acted like he was a god, the guy can break off a big run every once in a while, but no means going to be a back that the Browns could rely on.

Like I said in the Browns thread, there were quite a few backs that declined toward the end of the year, many with injuries, yet I don't think there is a question about any of them getting the ball as much as possible.
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No doubt the caste media will invent "problems" with Hillis where there aren't any. He does have a fumbling issue, but outside of that, I can't see much to criticize. He had basically half an O-line blocking for him, and thanks to the OC, defenses were keyed in on him every play for weeks. Peyton Hillis imho, in whatever he may be criticized for, is a victim of circumstance. He's a White man playing in a black position. The media doesn't want him there and they will do everything in their power to unseat him and undermine his fan support, etc.
 

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Hillis can't be a "one-year wonder" because he was already dominant in Denver when he got his chance to shine after numerous injuries to the afflete RB's there...

Hillis didn't wear down FTR, teams were just stuffing the box because the Browns had no vertical threat. Hillis's backup (Bell) had less YPC than Hillis at his worst with "fresh" legs when he got his carries...
 
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