A Final plea for help.....

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sehornlives

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For years guys, I have been calling and calling SIRIUS NFL RADIO and debating with the following hosts (to their credit, Pat Kirwan & Tim Ryan always take my call, and for the most part, are pretty fair and polite to me, Bob Papa & Ross Tucker, take my call, but kinda act shocked that i can even think such a thing about race, and "chosen one" Adam Schine & Dan Leberfeld banned me, and wont even take my call) but the DWF's that always follow my call, rip me a new one, saying...."why do u put that guy on the air....race has no place on this show....blah blah blah, and i have NEVER heard any one of you guys call and back me up, or at least call. I have been listening to that station for 5 years now and have NEVER heard any white caller bring up race. Help me out guys, please, call the show and help me out, help US out its 877-635-5425....let me know if you will help...thanks...and btw im Steve from NYC :)
 
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I wouldn't be the best guy to help b/c I get nervous while speaking to a large audience. I'm not quick witted verbally anyway due to my auditory processing disorder. I think many people are just nervous about having their name out there with the town they are from on shows. I have done lots of arguing in written form though. I hope you can find someone to help, but I'm not going to be the candidate...sorry. Plus I'm up here in Ontario anyway. I wish you good luck and am impressed with your valiant efforts though.
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What types of things are you saying? If you are saying racist stuff then you won't get anywhere. If you make it sound like you are not racist but bringing up logical points, then you'll get much further. You have to be PC in order to discuss stuff like this.
 
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You should make the former black quarterback discrimination comparison to the current white RB situation. I disagree a bit with MD, you can be un-pc (as the topic IS basically un-pc), but certainly not racist- there's a definite line between the two. You could look at my article "Arguing the Caste System With Youtubers" which includes points about why the CS exists. Also add examples of Hillis and Woodhead doing so well despite being snubbed early on both by the FBS and in the NFL. Most of the limited white RBs- do great- when given a chance in the FBS and NFL (see Gerhart and Luke Staley Doak award winners, Brock Forsey and Hillis and Woodhead in the NFL).You could also bring up the cutting of Wes Welker by San Diego. Compare whites with better production, measureables and game film who haven't gotten looks to lesser talented blacks for evidence- it's a three pronged argument. Don't just discuss 40 times- which blacks normally do well in. You could mention how well whites did in agility drills and in 10 and 20 yard clips. Google "Lateral Agility Trumps Speed on Football Field"- which shows just how well whites did in the agility differential numbers in a recent combine.
 
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ToughJ.Riggins said:
You should make the former black quarterback discrimination comparison to the current white RB situation. I disagree a bit with MD, you can be un-pc (as the topic IS basically un-pc), but certainly not racist- there's a definite line between the two. You could look at my article "Arguing the Caste System With Youtubers" which includes points about why the CS exists. Also add examples of Hillis and Woodhead doing so well despite being snubbed early on both by the FBS and in the NFL. Most of the limited white RBs- do great- when given a chance in the FBS and NFL (see Gerhart and Luke Staley Doak award winners, Brock Forsey and Hillis and Woodhead in the NFL).You could also bring up the cutting of Wes Welker by San Diego. Compare whites with better production, measureables and game film who haven't gotten looks to lesser talented blacks for evidence- it's a three pronged argument. Don't just discuss 40 times- which blacks normally do well in. You could mention how well whites did in agility drills and in 10 and 20 yard clips. Google "Lateral Agility Trumps Speed on Football Field"- which shows just how well whites did in the agility differential numbers in a recent combine.
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That's true. Sometimes being "un-PC" does work in that more people nowadays think that anti-PC is more "truthful" so they allow it. I agree with the QB comparison, but I think the big thing is to mention that this racism starts in high school, it's not just the NFL/FBS.
 
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