Fifa is after Russia for "Racism"

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Russia can solve this by banning all non-Russians from their league and not letting in any immigrants. Fifa will tell Russians what to think and say.



The head of Russia's 2018 World Cup bid has defended the country's track record in dealing with racism in football.

Alexei Sorokin denies Russian football has a problem with racist fans, despite recent controversy in a league game.

Lokomotiv Moscow fans celebrated Peter Odemwingie's sale in the transfer window with a banner showing a banana and the message: "Thanks West Brom".

Lokomotiv escaped sanction, but Sorokin told BBC Sport: "The RFU doesn't accept any demonstrations of racism."

The Russian Football Union's (RFU) disciplinary body held a board meeting on 25 August, but opted not to fine Lokomotiv and Sorokin, who is also the Russian Football Union's director general, insisted that the banana banner was not "racist".

"I know that this banner applied to a certain player and to the manner of how he played in his last matches," said Sorokin.

Coloured players feel the open racism there

Nigerian international Peter Odemwingie
"Apparently fans were not happy with the fact that he plays better for Nigeria and worse for the club. That's why they have shown their satisfaction after he left. And there is nothing racial in it.

"If there would be another player - from Russia, Denmark, Norway or Japan, for example - the reaction could be the same. In Russia 'to get a banana' means 'to fail a test somewhere'.

"Welliton and Vagner Love have obtained some fans' choice awards and they are really popular among people," added Sorokin referring to the Spartak Moscow strike and CSKA Moscow forward. "So what's the problem?

"About five years ago one Russian international was booed as well and received the same banners. This is a free expression of the will but there are all kinds of measures for those who misbehave.


Odemwingie scored on his debut for West Brom
"The Russian football union doesn't absolutely accept any demonstrations of racism and roughly restrains them with all available methods."

However Galina Kozhevnikova, deputy director of the Russian SOVA Centre for Information and Analysis, which monitors extremism in Russia, suggested the RFU had its head in the sand over the issue of racism.

"If everybody sees racism in this banner, including the player, it's absurd to refuse," said Kozhevnikova.

"The phrase 'to get a banana' existed in the time of the Soviet Union and has almost disappeared from the slang. The RFU simply doesn't want to recognize that banner as a racism.

"According to officials, recognition of the problem will make Russia's chances to host the World Cup uncertain. That's a typical logic of officials but it's senseless to refuse the problem.

"Officials don't understand that recognition of the problem is a step to it's resolution."

Like England, who are bidding to stage the 2018 World Cup, Russia have just been visited by a Fifa inspection team.

According to Sorokin, the Russian Football Union and Fifa did not mention the subject of racism during the world governing body's visit.

"No, we didn't discuss it," said Sorokin. "I don't understand why did everybody decide that there is such a burning question for us? There is no such problem in itself."

After the BBC interviewed Sorokin, Odemwingie spoke in depth about the banana banner claiming that a minority of fans had been involved but alleged that black players are regularly subjected to insults in the Russian league and that the authorities did not act.

"Coloured players feel the open racism there and I recall a game against CSKA Moscow when their fans started the sick noises - I wouldn't have any of it and gave it back to them," said Odemwingie.


Brazilian Welliton was also targeted by a racist banner
"This was widely publicised because photographers had shots of my protest but still nothing was done to curb it.

"Sadly, it's a picture of a minority group in Russia - it really makes you feel sick but that is what it is."

Lokomotiv might not have been fined over the Odemwingie banner, but in the past other Russian clubs have been punished.

In 2007 Spartak Moscow were fined about £13,000 when some of its fans held up a banner "Monkey go home" at a game after Welliton joined the club.

And two years ago Uefa fined Zenit St Petersburg £38,000 after Marseille players were targeted by some of the Russian club's fans.

"Our disciplinary committee fined Zenit for racist conduct by their fans, the use of pyrotechnics and the display of a political banner during their match against Marseille," said a Uefa statement in 2008.

Fifa's executive committee will decide who will host the World Cup in 2018 and 2022 at a meeting in Zurich on 2 December.

Russia's rivals to host the tournaments are England, the United States, and joint bids from Belgium and the Netherlands, Spain and Portugal.

Australia, Japan, South Korea and Qatar are applying for the 2022 finals only.

After the Fifa inspection visit the world governing body told Russia it must begin building their stadiums and infrastructure immediately if they are to host the finals in 2018 or 2022.
 

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Europe - These "anti-racism" drives aimed at the evil eastern Europeans have been on for a long time. In Poland, the main agent of the resplendent forces of political correctness is the loathesome "Nigdy Wiecej" (Never Again) organisation, whoseintellectually limitedmembers tirelessly catalogue the apparently endless examples of "horrifying" stadium racismwhichso blightssociety.

Here is a link to the English-language section of their website, which outlines the sacred mission of FARE (Football Against Racism In Europe):

http://www.nigdywiecej.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=15&id=48&Itemid=88

Scroll down and click on thecomically titled "Monitoring of Racism and Chauvinism SymptomsOn Polish Football Stadiums" (these limp-wristed dopes obviously possess a perfect grasp of written English
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) for an amusing read. They even have a photo of a Slask Wroclaw fan wearing a shirt which features the Confederate Flag ("a popular symbol of racist South in the American Civil War in the 19th century...) ...
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Russians should be more sensitive with regard to racism because of recent history.Hitler considered Russians to be Untermenschen. I find it hilarious that there are Russian neo-Nazis, as the Nazis were hell bent on exterminating, or at least enslaving what they considered to be an inferior people.
 
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blackstar said:
Russians should be more sensitive with regard to racism because of recent history.Hitler considered Russians to be Untermenschen. I find it hilarious that there are Russian neo-Nazis, as the Nazis were hell bent on exterminating, or at least enslaving what they considered to be an inferior people.
Wrong! Hitler was again't anti-slavic propaganda..........
 

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Hitler considered Slavs to be inferior.I'm not making this stuff up. Just read Mein Kampf.
 

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blackstar said:
Hitler considered Slavs to be inferior.I'm not making this stuff up. Just read Mein Kampf.
Nah we'll let you read it. But maybe you should leave first.
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Actually I find it ridiculous that Russia has so many neo-nazis. Its really nasty actually - dont think you have to be black to have problems with them. As a white foreigner in their homeland i can easily have problems too. Fortunately in Ukraine it is much more chilled out. Poland has lots of neos too. i stumbled into a pub once in Katowice, south poland which was full of them. Fortunately for me they were OK with my foreigness. They were a bit messes up though. Its not about supporting your race - its about hating everyone and everyone who is different to you.
 

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blackstar said:
Russians should be more sensitive with regard to racism because of recent history.Hitler considered Russians to be Untermenschen. I find it hilarious that there are Russian neo-Nazis, as the Nazis were hell bent on exterminating, or at least enslaving what they considered to be an inferior people.


It's intended to be ironic, you simpleton.

Many Russian prisoners (and other pro-white Russians) get tattoos of "Nazi"Â￾ symbols and German WW2 expressions as a symbol of their hatred for the Russian government. They have good reason to hate something so loathsome.

Russia's Neo-Nazis are some of the most hardcore pro-white groups on planet earth. Abductions, beatings, and slayings of non-white Russian citizens (usually Muslim immigrants) are quite common. They are certainly not "pretenders."Â￾
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