Rand Paul elected.

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SWEET!!! Some good news for once. Any "Paul" is better then nothing. He seems to be a lot like his father which can't be too bad.
 

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good news! And I don't mind him citing the tea party movement's help. Paul's victory will help to divert the spirit of the tea-party away from sarah palin style neocon interventionism, and back towards authentic libertarianism.
 

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Awesome! Dr.Rand Paul is a paleoconservative, chip of the ol' block!
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Great news. I'm a big fan of his. Good to see the trader Spector lose as well. That's whay he gets for jumping ship and joining the obama machine.
 

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Yes, Paul crushed his bought and paid for, Neo-Con opponent by a large margin. Paul still has to win the general election in November but this is certainly great news!

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having not followed Rand Paul's campaign, how similarare his political positionsto those of his father?
 

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His beliefs are identical to his father's. If he can finish the deal in November, and he has a very good chance to, it'll ensure a Paulian presence in Congress for at least 6 more years. Ron will be 75 in August and even though he still seems robust, just like great White athletes he can't go on forever; this was a huge primary win by Rand.
 

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Alot of Rand Paul's campaigns funds came from out of state Tea Partier donations, I know this for a fact.
 

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While alot of CFers as well as I are happy for Rand's primary victory it's funny how some here marginize/smear Sarah Palin who was way ahead of the curve and endorsed Rand weeks ago. Just something to think about.
 

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Ditto Westside, Some of them have smeared the Tea Party as well and without the Tea Party, Rand would not have won. By the way not all of us tea partiers are in full support of Rand's foreign policy but we respect his idealism and fidelity to the Constitution and there are different types of conservatism and so Rand will bring a fresh perspective on things. I would be shocked if he doesn't win in November, just stay on message.
 

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Well, Paul was pressed on some of his libertarian views and now says he won't vote for or support a repeal of the "Civil Rights Act." By saying this he's also saying the South will continue to be occupied territory and that freedom of association belongs in the past.
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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...-rights-cause-a-stir/?partner=rss&emc=rss

<h2>Paul's Views on Civil Rights Cause a Stir</h2>
<address>By ADAM NAGOURNEY</address>

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Updated: On Tuesday night, <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/rand_paul/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank">Rand
Paul</a> stood as the victorious symbol of the Tea Party after
capturing the Republican nomination for senator in Kentucky by defeating
an opponent who had the backing of Senator <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/mitch_mcconnell/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank">Mitch
McConnell</a> of Kentucky, the Senate minority leader.


But throughout the primary campaign, Democrats â€" and some Republicans
â€" had said that Mr. Paul would prove to be a much stronger candidate
in the limited field of a primary than in a general election. Democrats
had made no secret that they would prefer to run against Mr. Paul than
his opponent, <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/trey_grayson/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank">Trey
Grayson</a>, the secretary of state, a more moderate and politically
experienced choice.


And since Tuesday, the reason for Democrats' optimism â€" and for the
apprehension of Republicans like Mr. McConnell â€" has become clear as Mr.
Paul has struggled to account for his views on issues like segregation,
and to explain why a candidate of the Tea Party would hold his victory
night celebration at a posh country club in Bowling Green.


In an interview with <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/rachel_maddow/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank">Rachel
Maddow</a> on MSNBC, Mr. Paul appeared uncertain about whether he would
have supported forcing private businesses to desegregate in the 1960s,
suggesting that might run afoul of his libertarian philosophy. His views
emerged as Ms. Maddow asked Mr. Paul if he thought a private business
had the right to refuse service to a patron who was black.


(Mr. Paul's campaign issued a statement late Thursday morning
following the Maddow interview, in which he said he supported the Civil
Rights Act. It appears below.)</span>


"I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form,"Â he said. " I
would never belong to any club that excluded anybody for race. We still
do have private clubs in America that can discriminate based on race."Â


But things got murky from there in the interview: "Well, what it gets
into is, is that then if you decide that restaurants are publicly owned
and not privately owned, then do you say that you should have the right
to bring your gun into a restaurant, even though the owner of the
restaurant says, well, no, we don't want to have guns in here? The bar
says we don't want to have guns in here, because people might drink and
start fighting and shoot each other. Does the owner of the restaurant
own his restaurant? Or does the government own his restaurant?"Â


Democrats were quick to pounce, suggesting that the interview showed
that Mr. Paul in fact thought that private businesses had the right to
refuse service to patrons based on race.


Update: Mr. Paul's campaign issued a statement this morning in
response to the uproar over his remarks. In it, he said that he
supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the landmark anti-discrimination
law. :
<blockquote>


"I believe we should work to end all racism in American society
and staunchly defend the inherent rights of every person,"Â he said. "I
have clearly stated in prior interviews that I abhor racial
discrimination and would have worked to end segregation. Even though
this matter was settled when I was 2, and no serious people are seeking
to revisit it except to score cheap political points, I unequivocally
state that I will not support any efforts to repeal the Civil Rights Act
of 1964."Â


Mr. Paul disputed the claim by opponents that he would support
repealing the Civil Rights Act.


"These attacks prove one thing for certain: the liberal
establishment is desperate to keep leaders like me out of office, and we
are sure to hear more wild, dishonest smears during this campaign,"Â he
said. </blockquote>


And in an interview on "Good Morning America"Â on ABC, Mr. Paul argued
that his decision to hold his election night celebration at a fancy
country club was not in any way at variance with the grass-roots
movement he has now come to epitomize. And in the process of explaining
his decision, Mr. Paul invoked <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/w/tiger_woods/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank">Tiger
Woods</a>, the golfer.


"I think at one time, people used to think of golf and golf clubs and
golf courses as being exclusive,"Â Mr. Paul said, adding, "Tiger Woods
has helped to broaden that, in the sense that he's brought golf to a lot
of the cities and to city youth."Â


These interviews have come at a propitious time for Democrats, who
greeted Mr. Paul's victory by noting past interviews in which he hinted
at views that appear out of the mainstream, like his favoring
abolishing the Department of Education and the income tax, and raising
the retirement age.
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Sell-out! What uproar? he should make his case and the consequences be damned. The Civil Rights Act should be overturned, it's an unConstitutional piece of crap. I'm sure his father still feels that way. He wouldn't lose any votes worth getting if he stuck to his guns.
 

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Gentlemen

(Borrowing a salutation from Mr. Iron)

Lets not be quick to throw Mr. Paul under the bus. If he had of "stuck to his guns" his chance of winning the election would be practically nil.
 

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If Mr Paul would seek to outright over turn the civil rights act in an overt way, his chances of winning would be 0! All the bitching, whinning and the sort will not change this. Once he is in power is when he can start to repel it along with others, not now. He has to do it in a clever way, convert way.
 

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Nothing to see here. This is just a controlled attempt to oust Rand as the Republican candidate. I actually think he handled the questions pretty well. I don't think he would lose many votes by saying he would repeal the act (minorities would never vote Republican anyway), but the Republican establishment is eager to force his removal before election. It sounded like Paul still said he supported the freedom of private enterprise to discriminate - without actually saying it.
 

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He's going to have to take on the cultural marxists at some point. All of those wonderful things he believes in like freedom and liberty are at odds with much of what our society preaches today. This is only the beginning. What about freedom of association? Is it okay not to want to associate with minorities? What about freedom of speech? Is it okay to say those "unapproved" things? Bank bail outs? Welfare? Unemployment benefits? Drug laws? 99% of the things the fedgov does? How far does he back pedal to "get elected", and name one time when a back peddling politican has ever gotten elected and then reverted back to proper behavior?
 

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jaxvid said:
Sell-out! What uproar? he should make his case and the consequences be damned. The Civil Rights Act should be overturned, it's an unConstitutional piece of crap. I'm sure his father still feels that way. He wouldn't lose any votes worth getting if he stuck to his guns.

They'll get rid of the Civil Rights Act once whites are 20-25% of the population.

Just look at how companies have to pretend to open up a position to all people and take applications when they already know who they want to hire.All the interviews for nothing. I have applied for jobs and knew they pretty much already decided who was going to get it. Why not just appoint the person?

Would you get rid of public schools altogether and have associations where people joined to finance schools? We spread the cost of schooling amongst everyone now for their entire life, even in retirement with property taxes.It would cost a lot more at the time the children were in school, than if you spread it out over your entire life. Of course, we could rethink schools altogether and find other ways to teach our kids.

I still think we would need laws to curb corporate abuse though.Corporations could squeeze their workers to death if not checked.Look at what they do with outsourcing. They need to be harnessed.
 

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I think Rand Paul is dead. He is getting raked over the coals for his libertarian views and he cannot defend them. He can only obfuscate so long about whether Woolworth's should have been able to segregate their lunch counters in 1963. He feels they should have,but no one, and I mean NO ONE within about a thousand miles of government agrees. The Republicans BRAG about passing the Civil Rights Act. I predict that he will be forced to either step down, grovel, or the R's will run someone against him as an independant (insureing he loses). They will try to take the Tea Party movement down with him because of his association.

BTW he looked like a fool on TV with Rachel Maddow trying to be a libertarian without defending any of the beliefs. He needs to talk with daddy about that.
 

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Colonel_Reb said:
In an interview with <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/rachel_maddow/index.html?inline=nyt-per" target="_blank">Rachel
Maddow</a> on MSNBC, Mr. Paul appeared uncertain about whether he would
have supported forcing private businesses to desegregate in the 1960s,
suggesting that might run afoul of his libertarian philosophy. His views
emerged as Ms. Maddow asked Mr. Paul if he thought a private business
had the right to refuse service to a patron who was black.


(Mr. Paul's campaign issued a statement late Thursday morning
following the Maddow interview, in which he said he supported the Civil
Rights Act. It appears below.)&lt;span id="more-83521"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;


"I'm not in favor of any discrimination of any form,"Â￾ he said. " I
would never belong to any club that excluded anybody for race. We still
do have private clubs in America that can discriminate based on race."Â￾



Update: Mr. Paul's campaign issued a statement this morning in
response to the uproar over his remarks. In it, he said that he
supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the landmark anti-discrimination
law. :
<blockquote>


"I believe we should work to end all racism in American society
and staunchly defend the inherent rights of every person,"Â￾ he said. "I
have clearly stated in prior interviews that I abhor racial
discrimination and would have worked to end segregation. Even though
this matter was settled when I was 2, and no serious people are seeking
to revisit it except to score cheap political points, I unequivocally
state that I will not support any efforts to repeal the Civil Rights Act
of 1964


So, to be crystal clear"¦Rand Paul is in favor of "protecting the civil rights of all people,"Â￾ yet at the same time is also in favor of violating the civil rights of people who choose to discriminate others based on race, sex, religion, etc. Funny how that works. Every single mainstream political party in America has the same hypocritical view with concern to race. Everything, at all times, works in the favor of non-whites.

That said, I'd vote for anyone, so long as they are not associated with anything Democrat or Republican. Rand Paul needs keep quite for now, and do and say pro-white things after getting elected. I heard the Neocon warlord, Dick Cheney, recently called Rand Paul "too far right."Â￾ What a country.
 

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Nothing to see here. This is just a controlled attempt to oust Rand as the Republican candidate. I actually think he handled the questions pretty well. I don't think he would lose many votes by saying he would repeal the act (minorities would never vote Republican anyway), but the Republican establishment is eager to force his removal before election. It sounded like Paul still said he supported the freedom of private enterprise to discriminate - without actually saying it.


I am in agreement with you on this one. Paul did a nice little tap dance around the issue and there is nothing to worry about here at this moment in time.
 

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jaxvid said:
BTW he looked like a fool on TV with Rachel Maddow trying to be a libertarian without defending any of the beliefs. He needs to talk with daddy about that.



I wouldn't call him a fool but he didn't defend himself or his ideas very well. Also is it just me or is he wearing a rug?
 
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Its getting worse. Now the press is reporting that he employs racist aids.
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Is it even possible anymore for a pro white candidate to be elected?
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</div><div>It BS how Obama can get elected president while going to reverend wright's chruch for so many years, not to mention his association with Bill Ayers, but Rand Paul is most likely screwed now because of this.</div><div>
</div><div>Peope NEED wake up to this hypocrisy!!!!!
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