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More good work by Kevin Roberts for a pretty popular DWF site (the comments after the article are pretty good too, at least the early ones I looked at):

Cincinnati Bengals' RB Brian Leonard Ready for a Bigger Role
No matter how much people pigeon-hole him into the cliche' "lead-blocking" role, Brian Leonard is always going to wake up in the morning the same way: as a running back.



The fact is, he isn't slow. He does have moves, and he is agile.


Several sites across the web (count themâ€"it's probably 100 percent) say he's not worth "handcuffing" to Cedric Benson in fantasy football.


They say he's a waste of time as a running back, simply in general.


He's just another white guy trying to tote the ball, when he should wise up and just block, already.


I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. I am merely not convinced.


I'm not convinced that Cedric Benson is the answer for Cincinnati. Moreover, I'm not convinced that Brian Leonard isn't.


I am convinced, however, that he can be "the guy" in the Bengals backfield, and that he has all the necessary tools to be an effective, and damn me if I'm wrong, a star running back.


But let's not get carried away (pun intended).


It's not even preseason. Benson isn't hurt, hasn't fumbled away the starting job, or broken the law.



Ah, but there's time.


However, with recent reports suggesting that Leonard is, in fact, Benson's top backup heading into training camp at the end of the month, there is reason for speculation, and yes, even hope.


Leonard has little experience as a starter in the NFL, but he does have one 100-yard effort to his name.


Hell, he hasn't even scored a touchdown, yet.


But, if you're a giddy, college-to-pro football fan like me and half of the rest of the world, you're holding out hope (there's that word again) that we get to see a couple more of those famous "Leonard Leap's".


In St. Louis, Leonard was used sparingly in his rookie season, until he got is first crack at starting when Steven Jackson went down with an injury.


Leonard responded with a solid 102-yard effort, only to crash into a wall in the form of a formidable Baltimore Ravens rush defense the next week.


Ever since then, Leonard battled shoulder injuries, and quite frankly, was never the same.


But to be even more honest, he wasn't given much of an opportunity, either.


He was demoted to fullback, and saw Antonio Pittman step in and take on the load, despite Jackson still missing time.


Antonio Pittman. Really?


Regardless of your opinion of the Rams, Leonard, or even Pittman, that's all in the past now.


Now it's all about the future.


Leonard apparently has the go-ahead for third-down back duties, and probably will split goal-line and short yardage carries with Benson, while giving way to the regular carries to the former Bear.


His main competition is 31-year-old Kenny Watson, and Bernard Scott, a small-school, rookie running back.


While both of these backs have talent, Leonard is arguably the most versatile, as he's a stellar blocker, exceptional receiver, and is actually a pretty darn good running back, too.


If you're looking for help in the fantasy realm, take a flier on Leonard late in your draft in deep leagues. He just might be worth it.


And if you're looking for someone to cheer for in this little place we like to call "real life", Leonard's your man.


Because, come on. The guy jumps over people.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/214645-cincinnati-bengals-running-back-brian-leonard-waiting-for-his-chance/poll_results#poll

"He's just another white guy trying to tote the ball, when he should wise up and just block, already. I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. I am merely not convinced."

"I am convinced, however, that he can be "the guy" in the Bengals backfield, and that he has all the necessary tools to be an effective, and damn me if I'm wrong, a star running back."

"And if you're looking for someone to cheer for in this little place we like to call "real life", Leonard's your man."



Wow, nice quotes by Roberts. He seems like a fan that actually watched Leonard in college (unlike most DWF losers)....and therefore knows he can succeed in the NFL.

I like how he only touches on the topic of race (and thus, the caste system) just enough so your averge, uninfomred DWF can comprehend in his/her tiny, media-warped brains.

This had me nearly dieing of laughter....."... Benson isn't hurt,hasn't fumbled away the starting job, or broken the law. Ah but there's time. " The Bungles are now the Raiduhs of the midwest.

I've found Kevin Roberts' article on Leonard, posted above, reprinted here: http://nflgalore.com/2009/07/10/brian-leonard-awaits-his-chance/and linked to here: http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2009/07/15/graham-on-one-year-deal/
Attitudes are starting to shift our way just a bit.

Update:

Running back Brian Leonard appears to be the frontrunner for the No. 2 spot behind Cedric Benson. Leonard is a bruiser and reminds me a lot of Mike Alstott but slightly quicker. He's an outstanding short-yardage runner with the ability to gain huge chunks of yardage. Leonard rarely goes down on initial contact and has the speed to bounce the run outside.



Behind Leonard, rookie sixth round pick Bernard Scott is making a strong bid not only to make the roster, but for playing time. He has looked pretty impressive running the ball. Scott broke loose on a long run during 11-on-11 drills darting through the hole like a bullet. He's a slasher with the ability to make people miss and shows no hesitation when hitting the hole. Scott did a decent job picking up the blitz when called upon.
http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/big_c_nfl_blitz/entries/2009/08/04/bengals_highs_and_lows_in_camp.html

Good to hear Don. After Hillis- Leonard is our best shot to run for 500+ yards this season. It currently doesn't look good for Jacob Hester to even gain 100 rushing yards this season, but we'll have to take what we can get.

I read a blurb on Rotoworld the other day, where Carson Palmer was raving about career criminal Bernard Scott. He was quoted as saying that the team needed to get him on the field, or something to that effect. Rotoworld also managed to mention, as has every fantasy football story on Scott, how "impressive" he's been so far.

Isn't it shocking that a thug like Scott, who in a fair world would aleardy be serving a long sentence in prison, is not only being handed at least the backup job (I predict he'll be the starter by the end of the season), but the team's only prominent white player is publicly advocating for him? This brings up the biggest problem we face with the Caste System- guys like Carson Palmer.

How can Palmer not be thrilled to see a non-criminal, talented offensive player like Brian Leonard join him on the team? Isn't it only natural for him to feel kinship with him just because he's the only offensive guy who looks like him? Isn't he tired of dealing with a team that has more thugs than any other criminal infested squad in the league? I guess if he even tried to bond with Leonard, the blacks would publicly complain, much like T.O. did last season with Romo and Witten.

We all know that no star white player like Palmer will ever publicly advocate for any white skill position player. It hasn't happened for years, and isn't likely to happen any time soon. I hate to be my usual pessimistic self, but Leonard will be fortunate to be pressed into the tyical white role of blocking FB. Scott is already being anointed camp favorite, and with the thug mentality of that team, a clean cut white player like Leonard attempting to play the forbidden position of RB just has no reasonable chance of success.

I think Leonard will play and Scott will get arrested. It always happens Cecil Collins anyone. Their have been positive things written about Leonard as well, and they did trade for him. i know this may sound weird, but this situation might work out for Leaonard he has a lazy injury prone bust and a criminal to compete with one of them won't make it through the season. Leonard has to be ready to take the bull by the horns when his number is called or else we all know what will happen. Give them hell Brian.

Sorry fellas, but Leonard is just being passed around like a slave. He will get no carries in the regular season and be lucky to play on special teams as a battering ram. This is the NFL and it's only getting worse.

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We all know that no star white player like Palmer will ever publicly advocate for any white skill position player. It hasn't happened for years, and isn't likely to happen any time soon. I hate to be my usual pessimistic self, but Leonard will be fortunate to be pressed into the tyical white role of blocking FB. Scott is already being anointed camp favorite, and with the thug mentality of that team, a clean cut white player like Leonard attempting to play the forbidden position of RB just has no reasonable chance of success.

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Good point, Palmer has spoken out about some of the bad behavior of his teammates which has probably caused the brotha's on the team to agitate against him. This is a good way for him to throw a fellow white guy under the bus to try and buy some favoritism from his teammates. You see this all of the time. It's a classic example of the non-solidarity of white people and the reason we are being ethnically cleansed.

jaxvid said:

bigunreal said:

We all know that no star white player like Palmer will ever publicly advocate for any white skill position player. It hasn't happened for years, and isn't likely to happen any time soon. I hate to be my usual pessimistic self, but Leonard will be fortunate to be pressed into the tyical white role of blocking FB. Scott is already being anointed camp favorite, and with the thug mentality of that team, a clean cut white player like Leonard attempting to play the forbidden position of RB just has no reasonable chance of success.

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Good point, Palmer has spoken out about some of the bad behavior of his teammates which has probably caused the brotha's on the team to agitate against him. This is a good way for him to throw a fellow white guy under the bus to try and buy some favoritism from his teammates. You see this all of the time. It's a classic example of the non-solidarity of white people and the reason we are being ethnically cleansed.

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jaxvid, I totally agree. It is very frustrating to see this happen so often.

WHITE NOISE said:

Sorry fellas, but Leonard is just being passed around like a slave. He will get no carries in the regular season and be lucky to play on special teams as a battering ram. This is the NFL and it's only getting worse.

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Yeah and to think Leonard was ranked as the third best runningback in the draft. Only if you are white does this happen to you.

White athletes need to stand up for themselves, and each other. I am starting to hate the Negro Foolball Lie. Its becoming so disgusting I want to puke. Its been unfixable for some time now. An honest man with a set of cods between his legs, in Palmers shoes, would have said
"Look, I dont even want to talk about Scott. He belongs in a dank cell. However we do have a new Rb named Leonard who should be the starter, but since he is white he wont be." Or somthing like that. But NOOOO, he praises the 3rd worlder. Edited by: P-NutLane

P-NutLane said:

White athletes need to stand up for themselves, and each other. I am starting to hate the Negro Foolball Lie. Its becoming so disgusting I want to puke. Its been unfixable for some time now. An honest man with a set of cods between his legs, in Palmers shoes, would have said
"Look, I dont even want to talk about Scott. He belongs in a dank cell. However we do have a new Rb named Leonard who should be the starter, but since he is white he wont be." Or somthing like that. But NOOOO, he praises the 3rd worlder.

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Only if he wants to preface his remarks by announcing his retirement along withhis understanding that he will be demonized for the rest of his days rather than making millions of dollars each year playing football. Why should he commit career suicide any more than his fellow white players, coaches, announcers, reporters, etc.? Discrimination against whites is institutionalized all through society in just about every occupation and all through the media and nobody says anything yet white quarterbacks are supposed to assume a David Duke like role? And that's assuming that Carson Palmer sees things exactly the same way we do, which is quite a stretch. Let's be realistic about these things.

I certainly don't expect white players to ruin their careers, but Palmer ia sn established starter with his team. He doesn't have to sound like David Duke, but he also didn't have to publicly praise a thug like Bernard Scott, did he? I doubt if anyone would have protested if he merely said the same things about Leonard- "hey, this guy has been looking good and making plays."

If whites don't start speaking out in support of each other, then how will this system ever be destroyed? This is where I differ strongly from Don- I feel that many of these white players do need to act differently. Talk about commiting career suicide- how are their careers doing now, with them maintaining a stoic silence? Will Mike Hass be given a fair chance in Seattle? We know he won't. He isn't proclaiming how good he is-which any black Fred Biletnikoff award winner would have done a long time ago. Is Standeford proclaiming "I know I can start?" Has being a good "team player" and keeping a low profile helped Jacob Hester? Brian Leonard? None of them have anything to lose, because they aren't getting playing time, or (in the case of Hass, David Ball, etc.) even a roster spot. If they spoke out, maybe things would improve.

Recently, T.J. Houshemenzadeh went to ludicrous lengths (they even allowed him to confront the game's representatives on ESPN) over what he felt was a personal slight in the Madden video game's rankings. Now we all know that this was a result of his absurdly overblown ego, which all black players possess. That's the situation we face; a hardly superstar WR is so disturbed over a video game giving his speed a legitimate ranking that he launches a public protest, while not a single one of the countless number of highly skilled white RBs, WRs and DBs murmur a peep of protest about the discrimination they face year after year. That's a recipe for disaster, and refusing to criticize whites like Palmer is not the answer.

No one asked Palmer to declare pride in being white, or start posting on Caste Football. All I did was take him to task for publicly praising one of the most objectionable blacks imaginable, one who wouldn't be able to sniff an NFL roster in an honest league, which will have the effect of hampering Brian Leonard's already slim chances of playing.

This reminds me of when Jason Witten praised inept thug Pacman Jones, saying how good of aguy and teammate he was.

bigunreal said:

I certainly don't expect white players to ruin their careers, but Palmer ia sn established starter with his team. He doesn't have to sound like David Duke, but he also didn't have to publicly praise a thug like Bernard Scott, did he? I doubt if anyone would have protested if he merely said the same things about Leonard- "hey, this guy has been looking good and making plays."

If whites don't start speaking out in support of each other, then how will this system ever be destroyed? This is where I differ strongly from Don- I feel that many of these white players do need to act differently. Talk about commiting career suicide- how are their careers doing now, with them maintaining a stoic silence? Will Mike Hass be given a fair chance in Seattle? We know he won't. He isn't proclaiming how good he is-which any black Fred Biletnikoff award winner would have done a long time ago. Is Standeford proclaiming "I know I can start?" Has being a good "team player" and keeping a low profile helped Jacob Hester? Brian Leonard? None of them have anything to lose, because they aren't getting playing time, or (in the case of Hass, David Ball, etc.) even a roster spot. If they spoke out, maybe things would improve.

Recently, T.J. Houshemenzadeh went to ludicrous lengths (they even allowed him to confront the game's representatives on ESPN) over what he felt was a personal slight in the Madden video game's rankings. Now we all know that this was a result of his absurdly overblown ego, which all black players possess. That's the situation we face; a hardly superstar WR is so disturbed over a video game giving his speed a legitimate ranking that he launches a public protest, while not a single one of the countless number of highly skilled white RBs, WRs and DBs murmur a peep of protest about the discrimination they face year after year. That's a recipe for disaster, and refusing to criticize whites like Palmer is not the answer.

No one asked Palmer to declare pride in being white, or start posting on Caste Football. All I did was take him to task for publicly praising one of the most objectionable blacks imaginable, one who wouldn't be able to sniff an NFL roster in an honest league, which will have the effect of hampering Brian Leonard's already slim chances of playing.

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First of all, I responded to P-Nut's post, not yours.

Do you know conclusively whether Palmer has said anything about Leonard one way or the other, or even been asked about him? Maybe he's praised him as well but the media chose to run with his comments about Scott. That would hardly be surprising.

To denounce Scott as a criminal when half of his teammates are criminals would be pointless, wouldn't it? What possible benefit would Palmer gain?

It's nothing but a lose-lose situation for Palmer. I've heard many white QBs praising white teammates, just as they praise black teammates. Would it change Leonard's fortunes if Palmer begangoing out of his way to begin speakingout on behalf of white players? Those of Hass and Standeford? Would it change how Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown do business, or any other NFL team? Would the media take up the torch on behalf of Palmer and begin zeroing in on the unfair treatment of white football players? Would the league stop issuing secret directives ordering players to retire, as you maintain happened with Drew Bennett? Would the DWFs suddenly come around? Most white sports fans disagree with us.

Why should Carson Palmer speak out but not, say, Jim Nantz, Troy Aikman, John McCain, Sarah Palin, Brian Williams, Tony Stewart, Joe Buck, Hank Williams Jr., and any of an endless list of other well-known white people, for discrimination against whites and their degradation takes place all through society at all levels and occupations, not just sports. Everyone knows what happens to well-known people who are perceived as harboring pro-white sentiments -- instant and unrelenting demonization.

The Caste System will be derailed when enough white athletes (not the best known ones but kids and high school and college athletes), their friends and families, and enough white fans recognize it and begin acting against it in different ways. It's no different than the political system. Change will not come from the top down but from the bottom up. The burgeoning tea party movement, the 10th Amendment movement, the drive to secede from Washington, New York and Hollywood at the individual, local and state levels, that's the only way things are going to change, unless of course the whole system self-destructs.

Maybe Carson Palmer will begin speaking in a way that delights Caste Football partisans. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to happen. Expecting the system's leading celebrities and beneficiaries to lead a revolt against the system isn't in the cards. And if Leonard, Hass & Co. try to speak out they will be, if not ignored, mocked and sent packing faster than a New York second.Edited by: Don Wassall

Don all what you say it true but it's still important to want people to act properly. I think we should criticize Palmer and others for anti-white behavior---strongly. Sure I expect him to speak out for whites, I know he won't, so what, it's what he SHOULD do.

Screw Palmer for going with the "program" I expect a man to act like a man no matter the price. It's not a lose-lose situation if you stand up for what's right. It may be useless to expect him to speak out, but regaurdless, it's what he should do.

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Don all what you say it true but it's still important to want people to act properly. I think we should criticize Palmer and others for anti-white behavior---strongly. Sure I expect him to speak out for whites, I know he won't, so what, it's what he SHOULD do.

Screw Palmer for going with the "program" I expect a man to act like a man no matter the price. It's not a lose-lose situation if you stand up for what's right. It may be useless to expect him to speak out, but regaurdless, it's what he should do.

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Again, none of us know what Palmer's life experiences and beliefs are. Given that many/most whites believe the black supremacy myth, Palmer and many white football players may as well.

As far as "going with the program," everyone who benefits from the system does, and many truly believe in the system that has benefitted them. Palmer received a scholarship to glamorous USC, won the Heisman Trophy and was the first pick in the NFL Draft and has had a successful NFL career. Has he ever done an in-depth study of the Caste System? I doubt it.

I would bet that many white NFL players would greet a CFer with nothing but open hostility were the two to meet over drinks in a bar. It is a lose-lose situation forPalmer to throw away his career because it won't change anything. A man should indeed act like a man, but none do in the power structure, so why fixate on white quarterbacks? Such laments are no more useful than constantly berating leading Republicans for not "speaking the truth." Edited by: Don Wassall

I lost a bit of respect when Palmer was saying how "Awesome" it was meeting (Murderer) Snoop Doggy Dog.

I'll always remember that play where Brian Leonard hurdled some dude on his way to a TD. One of the greatest College football plays I've ever seen.

Don,

All I did was criticize Palmer for publicly praising thug Bernard Scott, which he had no reason to do. I didn't admonish him for not praising Leonard, although I do believe he could have issued the same comments about Leonard and not faced any wrath.

Sooner or later, someone in a position of power has to speak up. Those at the bottom have no power- how would they be able to overturn the system? Sure, if enough individual white players started standing up for themselves, and demanding to play the positions they're qualified to play, that would be great. However, without thousands of them doing so at once in a coordinated effort, a few trying to do that would be instantly cast aside (no pun intended). There are many ways whites can do this- stop being so willing to switch to a caste-friendly position, start talking themselves up, start fighting back in every way. They don't even have to mention race- just be more self-confident.

I don't feel the need to blindly support everything that every white athlete says or does. My sympathies are more with the ones like Hass, Jones, Leonard and Hester, who are being screwed over completely. As you note, someone like Carson Palmer has done very well for himself. The few who have prospered under the present system, like Palmer, are a big part of the problem. I hadn't heard about Palmer's comments about Snoop Dog, but he also recently publicly praised lifetime criminal Chris Henry, who like Scott should be nowhere near an NFL roster. When Palmer praised Scott, btw, he also mentioned how he'd be a "great change of pace" to Cedric Benson, whom he also praised. He didn't mention Leonard. I wonder why. Does he really enjoy playing alongside the likes of Henry and Scott? One would think that he'd be utterly sick of the thugs who fill up the Bengals' locker room. You'd expect him to withhold public praise of them, even if he actually thought they were great players, for just this reason.

Do you honestly think that teams would cut a player for speaking out in support of a white WR or RB? If they didn't mention race, there is no way they could be punished for mere statements of support. For instance, what harm would come to Eli Manning now, if he publicly stated that he'd love to have Matt Jones join the Giants? I believe he once said he'd love to have Braylon Edwards- what's the difference? He wouldn't be charged with being a racist, and they certainly couldn't cut him for something like that.

I actually think players like Palmer risk less than talking heads do in addressing this subject. Players have the right to support each other, and the few white stars in this league ought to start doing that. They at least shouldn't needlessly praise the competition, as Palmer did in expressing support for Scott, who is competing with Leonard.

Don Wassall said:

jaxvid said:

Don all what you say it true but it's still important to want people to act properly. I think we should criticize Palmer and others for anti-white behavior---strongly. Sure I expect him to speak out for whites, I know he won't, so what, it's what he SHOULD do. Screw Palmer for going with the "program" I expect a man to act like a man no matter the price. It's not a lose-lose situation if you stand up for what's right. It may be useless to expect him to speak out, but regaurdless, it's what he should do.

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<div>Again, none of us know what Palmer's life experiences and beliefs are.  Given that many/most whites believe the black supremacy myth, Palmer and many white football players may as well.</div>
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<div>As far as "going with the program," everyone who benefits from the system does, and many truly believe in the system that has benefitted them.  Palmer received a scholarship to glamorous USC, won the Heisman Trophy and was the first pick in the NFL Draft and has had a successful NFL career.  Has he ever done an in-depth study of the Caste System?  I doubt it.</div>
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<div>I would bet that many white NFL players would greet a CFer with nothing but open hostility were the two to meet over drinks in a bar.  It is a lose-lose situation for Palmer to throw away his career because it won't change anything.  A man should indeed act like a man, but none do in the power structure, so why fixate on white quarterbacks?  Such laments are no more useful than constantly berating leading Republicans for not "speaking the truth."  </div>

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Before the 2003 Orange Bowl, which USC was playing in, the most famous ex-Trojan showed up one day at practice, O.J. Simpson. O.J. was warmly greeted by coach Pete Carroll and the USC players. Simpson posed for photos with Heisman recipient Carson Palmer. Simpson said he was glad to see another USC Heisman winner, but also said, "A quarterback?"

In the tape I saw of this incident, Carson Palmer did not look comfortable being around Simpson. Palmer looked like shaking hands with O.J. Simpson was something he would prefer not to have done.

Someone like Carson Palmer has been in the athletic world all his life and has done well. He won the Heisman after all. If Brian Leonard gets significant playing time and does well, I'm sure Palmer will praise him if a reporter asks, "What did you think of Leonard today?"

bigunreal said:

Don,

Do you honestly think that teams would cut a player for speaking out in support of a white WR or RB? If they didn't mention race, there is no way they could be punished for mere statements of support. For instance, what harm would come to Eli Manning now, if he publicly stated that he'd love to have Matt Jones join the Giants? I believe he once said he'd love to have Braylon Edwards- what's the difference? He wouldn't be charged with being a racist, and they certainly couldn't cut him for something like that.

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You're making two different arguments. As I mentioned earlier, white QBs praise white WRs and other white players quite a bit. Twenty years ago, Jim Kelly mentioned how Steve Tasker was all but unstoppable during practice when he played WR. Ten years ago, Troy Aikman lobbied the Cowboys to keep Patrick Jeffers; Jeffers ended up signing with Carolina where he went on to be the best WR in the league the second half of the 1999 season.

If Eli Manning said he'd like to see the Giants pursue Matt Jones, there would be no harm. But if he said, "Let's pursue Matt Jones, the white receiver, he's being screwed by the league because of his race" then he would be viciously attacked, most likely for the rest of his life. Are you advocating harmless statements by white QBs, or are you advocating that they support white players explicitly because they are white? Quarterbacks rather commonly make harmless statements (even your buddy Brett Favre complimented Bill Schroeder on occasion), but that doesn't affect the status quo because such statements are innocuous. Palmer could say, "Leonard is doing a good job," and maybe he has because I'm reading mostly good training camp reports on Leonard -- but how does that challenge the Caste System? It doesn't. Only by explicitly making race an issue can it be challenged, and here's where I part company with you, because Palmer would be an utterfool to volunteer to be the next Al Campanis, Jimmy the Greek, John Rocker, etc., etc. No matter how honorable his intentions he would overnight be made into the David Duke of the NFL, with the roaring approval of the drunk white fans.

Yes, someone should stand up and challenge the whole rotten anti-white agenda that permeates society, but no one is going to because they know what will happen to them if they do. That's why it won't happen from the top down until sufficient pressure is exerted from the bottom up to weaken the top and cause some of the rats to start jumping ship.

Those at the bottom aren't powerless; the anti-government feelings that have been percolating and brewing since at least the heyday of the militia movement in the early '90s and which were unleashed and formulated (at least in part) by Ron Paul have taken place in spite of the best efforts of those at the top.

Carson Palmer can't speak out unless he wants to commit career suicide; but thousands of white athletes in high school can. And so can their parents. White kids that are discriminated against, along with their parents and friends, have to start refusing topassively play the step 'n fetchit roleand start raising hell, along with spreading knowledge. Caste Football exists to help that process along by providing information and commentary that raises the consciousness of those who can be made aware of how things actually work in this country. Whether enough can ever be reached I don't know; but one thing I don't expect is for the multi-zillionaire four star white generals of the NFL to start the revolution any time soon.Edited by: Don Wassall

Here's a quote today from Chad Pennington:

(On rookie wide receivers Patrick Turner and Brian Hartline) "I think both of them play big. They both have a wide range and long lanky arms. They both can go and snatch a football. That's comforting to know as a quarterback if you are six inches off, they can still grab that football. Both of them have that knack and have that ability. For the most part, they have really come in here and learned what to do and now they are trying to watch the veterans and listen to us as quarterbacks and listen to our coaches to how to make it better and how to make it effective. It's one thing to go against other rookies, but when you go against the one defense and how do you beat Will Allen, how do you beat Eric Green and those guys? They have seen every trick in the book and it is really challenging that way."

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2009/08/08/0808pennington.html

Any problem with that, bigunreal? ShouldChad have phrased it differently, identified Hartline by race? I see similar quotes from white QBs regularly.

I agree with your post for the most part Don, but I have seen some white stars speak up on "occasion" about racism against white athletes without being labeled as David Duke etc. It may depend on the situation and how they do it...For instance, Don Bebee talked openly about stereotyping to the Chicago Sun Times when his starting RB- Matt Russell- (he now coaches H.S) didn't get a Division I offer. He said when he was trying to gain interest for Russell one FBS recruiter had come right out and asked "is he black or white?" (this is pure and simple recruiting racial profiling). Tailback Kevin Harris gave a similar recruiter story and talked about it being hard to overcome the doubters as a white RB. Sam McGuffie talked about how nearly half the comments on his Youtube video were about his race when Chinese writer- Lorne Chan (who has worked for ESPN before)- wrote about McGuffie being underrated by Rivals in his column the Chanifesto. McGuffie was quoted as saying:
"I've seen them (the Youtube quotes), they all say the same thing â€" 'But he's small. But he's white...It doesn't matter if I run for a billion, trillion touchdowns. To the doubters, I'm still that white running back."
Also Eric Decker and Toby Gerhart mentioned the unfair Fullback and Possession receiver label they get. DE Jay Moore talked about the "overachiever label" despite his stellar measurables. Decker and Moore were brazen enough to come right out and say they think their "pigment" has something to do with the label. Pete Prisco and Mike Golic- although they usually follow the caste line also wrote an article questioning the stereotyping of Brian Leonard. In Canada, it seems it is definitely more common for newspaper journalists to talk about "reverse" racism. But they usually give "racism" at least equal press time in their writings (to please their bosses)- to not cause a stir.

I also think a book by a famous writer/ sports journalist like Mitch Alblum (he's known to be a charitable guy who writes inspirational books mostly about non-sports issues) could be written without it being career suicide. It would have to be written very carefully by walking a very fine line. They might be able to discuss or maybe- more conservatively- "pose the question" of there being "minor differences" between race, but badmouthing any race-other than whites- could cause career suicide. This is especially if it was about a quality other than athleticism. It would probably do damage to their reputation to bring up slavery in relation to sports (by saying slaves were selectively bred to be strong and fast etc.- they would be accused of making light of slavery or be accused of racism by widely separating blacks from other groups). Intelligence discussion for the most part would be off limits- unless they simply begged the question that different ethnicities may have "slightly" different strengths and weakness tendencies. If they were known to be a true conservative like Pat Buchanan- the book might be dismissed as an unformed opinion or a racist rant by an angry white man. It would also be risky to paint the picture of whites being better at QB than whites- even if you claimed any white racial affinity for the position was small. To get any significant press time- the book would have to compare the old plight of the black QB to the current climate of doubting and stereotyping of white CBs, RBs and WRs.

Also an NFL player speaking up about being unfairly treated because he's white multiple times would probably be called out as whining and get the blacks on the team agitated. Many of the black players would start coming out and start to do their common thing of playing their own race card (ala McNabb). They'd start whining that there still aren't enough black QBs (not true) or centers and kickers (certainly not due to discrimination). The white player might be cut and branded as a locker room cancer. The white player would have to already have good comradeship with his team's black players and be very careful with how they phrased the "reverse" racism accusation.

If Bernard Scott were white- there's zero chance he'd be in the league with both his chronic propensity to commit crimes as well as being a player from "lowly" Division II. I think that Carson Palmer could have either praised both Brian Leonard and Bernard Scott or- better yet- simply praised the higher character and more talented guy (and we all know who that is). I agree with you Don that it wouldn't hurt him to plug Leonard to the media. That is...unless he was constantly only touting the talents of whites on the team...In the latter case the brothas might have a fit and play the race card again.

Edited by: ToughJ.Riggins