NOW "they" want to see better tackling

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Joe Flacco ran for a TD and exposed the diversity-filled Cinci defense while doing so, and it's all - "Houston, we have a problem" - from Boomer and the CBS crew. Boomer bobs his head around like an imbecile..

For some reason, they also felt the need to attribute the Ravens' win solely to their defense. No one needs to tell me that football is a team game, but when has even one of Vince Young's "wins" been solely attributed to the Titans' defense?

If it was JaMarcus Russell doing exactly what Flacco did, we wouldn't be hearing about poor tackling and it wouldn't be strongly implied that he was an inferior athlete (which is how Boomer treated Flacco). Oh no, all we would hear is that JaMarcus, a "superior" athlete, had demolished a defense that was considered at least "respectable." It would be on the "up-and-up" so to speak. That's a good way to describe the situation.


Blacks make plays all the time because of poor defense and poor tackling and absolutely terrible special teams coverage, but the media doesn't try to minimize those things. In those instances, it's usually just "real" athletes against "real" athletes. Hey, just smile and celebrate the achievement!

But, "fake" athletes exposing real athletes... can't have that at all. It was such an injustice that "the people" unfortunately had to witness. A travesty! Can't have new White QB's getting their feet in the NFL-door and striving for success, especially if they come from - GASP - Delaware U.

Isn't the Caste media wonderful?
 

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Well if the NFL doesn't like the poor tackling in the NFL they have no one to blame but themselves. I find it quite funny. The NFL wouldn't be in such sad shape defensivley if they had not gone gaga over supposedly superior black affletes out of the SEC who can't tackle to combat supposedly superior black affletes out of the SEC who can't catch.

Imagine what a field day true dual threat QB's like Steve Young or John Elway (not fakers like Vince Young, who have no pocket presence) would have at their prime in this modern day caste system dominated by poor fundamentals? If Tim Tebow is allowed to play QB in the NFL, I have a feeling he is going to really P*ss some people off. There might even be a suicide watch for some of the hacks. That kid is a pure athletic freak. He is a little bit raw as a pure passer, but he already looks more comfortable than the "so called" dual threat black QB's who have played in the NFL (like Vick, Young,Stewart, Culpepper etc) who were lauded as the saviors and blue prints for the future of the game. Edited by: Bear Backer
 

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Yes but Tim Tebow will be bashed by the media at every mistake he makes. He won't be worshiped like Vince Young.
 

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On a side note, I believe Flacco is the real deal and have thought so since seing him Shred My Alma Mater SIU in the playoffs last year. I don't know why he wound up playing for a small School like Delaware, but it was pretty obvious to me that he should have been playing for a big time university. The guy is a beast with a cannon for an arm, and despite that, is not a bad athlete at all despite what the talking heads might want everyone to believe. I won't try to say he is a burner, but he definitely is not a statue either. He basically made SIU QB Nick Hill look like he didn't belong on the same field, despite Hill being one of the best Saluki QB's to ever take the field short of Jim Hart, and who was good enough to recieve serious looks by a couple of NFL teams.
 

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Deadlift said:
For some reason, they also felt the need to attribute the Ravens' win solely to their defense. No one needs to tell me that football is a team game, but when has even one of Vince Young's "wins" been solely attributed to the Titans' defense?


Never, it's always Vince Young who wins the games. Even when he plays poorly, it's his commanding field presence, and force of his will that puts the team over.
 

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Bart said:
Deadlift said:
For some reason, they also felt the need to attribute the Ravens' win solely to their defense. No one needs to tell me that football is a team game, but when has even one of Vince Young's "wins" been solely attributed to the Titans' defense? 


Never, it's always Vince Young who wins the games.  Even when he plays poorly, it's his  commanding field presence, and force of his will that puts the team over.

That is so true. I watched a Titans game last year (cant even remember which one it was now) where Vince Young played really poorly and despite this, the Titans wound up winning and the announcers basically followed the script that you have layed out. I believe one of the morons even made a comment to the order of: "Sometimes Vinces numbers don't always tell the real story of how he helps this team win. Anytime he is on the field you just get the sense that he is going to help the Titans to win." I guess it falls back to the Magic Negro theory everytime with Vince, regardless of how bad he sucks.
 

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The only thing that will force the tackling to improve is white running backs and white receivers. Then you'll see the defenders going all out to bring guys down.
 

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Yeah I have noticed that a lot of the white WRs take some serious hits. I saw an absolute crushing of Joe Jurevicius a couple years ago. Most white WRs seem to fight for every yard and some of the black defenders don't like this.
 

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Mike Greenberg and Mike "Dumbo the Elephant" Golic were also mouthing this propaganda line about Flacco and poor tackling. Flacco'sTD run and his team's winwere portrayed as solely theresult of the Cincy defense, and Matt Ryan was merely a "manager" with all the credit going to Michael Turner. Yes Turner had a record-breaking game, but could one imagine the hoopla that would have ensued if a rookie black QB had thrown a perfect 60 yard TD strike on his first ever NFL pass, and his team, predicted to be the worst in the league, had easily won its game?
 

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I actually watched the Jet-Miami game yesterday. Every year or so when I watch a game, I'm flabergasted at the poor play, especially of course the blocking and tackling. Also, the poor condition of the players. How can people so obviously out of shape be on a pro team? The blacks better hope the Caste system never breaks down. If it does in any way, they're in a heap of trouble.

I hate TV and that'll be the last game I watch ths year.
At least I was in a bar and didn't have to listen to the announcers.

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"How can people so obviously out of shape be on a pro team? The blacks better hope the Caste system never breaks down."

Tom: The NFL seems to think that black sumos on both sides of the line make the best players.
 
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Well to be honest the Bengals defense was one of the worst last year. Of course, this was mainly due to it being packed with weak black players.

The "blacks only" policy at many positions leads to teams to dig deep to find a black guy, any black guy, to play caste positions. At any position, the number 843 black player simply is not better than the number 10 white player, but the job MUST be filled by a black player, so there you go.
 

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Don Wassall said:
Mike Greenberg and Mike "Dumbo the Elephant" Golic were also mouthing this propaganda line about Flacco and poor tackling.  Flacco's TD run and his team's win were portrayed as solely the result of the Cincy defense, and Matt Ryan was merely a "manager" with all the credit going to Michael Turner.  Yes Turner had a record-breaking game, but could one imagine the hoopla that would have ensued if a rookie black QB had thrown a perfect 60 yard TD strike on his first ever NFL pass, and his team, predicted to be the worst in the league, had easily won its game? 


 


Exactly!

Here's a write-up from Matt Ryan's ESPN player profile:


Player News (last updated: September 7, 2008)
News: Ryan completed 9-of-13 passes for 161 yards and a touchdown in his first regular season start on Sunday.
Spin: Atlanta rolled with a heavy dose of Michael Turner and Jerious Norwood (combined 36 carries), while Ryan did an excellent job managing the game and executing when called upon. He'll receive a much tougher test from the Tampa Bay defense in Week 2, while we aren't ready to endorse him as a starting option in most leagues just yet. That said, Ryan's debut is an encouraging first step in the right direction.

I think 9 completions for 161 yards is obviously "better" than merely a game-managing performance.

The underlined portion is true, in that Matt Ryan could have thrown more than 13 times and for more than 200 yards, and the Falcons' would have STILL likely won. Is a measley 20 pass attempts too much to ask for?

He's a young QB, but I sure hope that he isn't getting a "modified" version of the NFL's "White athlete apprenticeship" program...
 

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nevada said:
Well to be honest the Bengals defense was one of the worst last year. Of course, this was mainly due to it being packed with weak black players.

Did you see all the botched tackles when Adrian Peterson ran all over the Chargers' last year?


Here's A. Peterson's game-by-game rushing stats:


WEEK OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
1 ATL W 24-319 103 5.4 15 0
2 @DET L 20-17 20 66 3.3 11 0
3 @KC L 13-1025 102 4.1 16 1
4 GNB L 23-1612 112 9.3 55 0
5 Bye Week
6 @CHI W 34-31 20 224 11.2 73 3
7 @DAL L 24-14 12 63 5.3 20 1
8 PHI L 23-1620 70 3.5 17 0
9 SD W 35-1730 296 9.9 64 3
10 @GNB L 34-0 11 45 4.1 12 0
11 OAK W 29-22 Did Not Play
12 @NYG W 41-17 Did Not Play
13 DET W 42-10 15 116 7.7 28 2
14 @SF W 27-714 30.2 40
15 CHI W 20-13 20 78 3.9 28 2
16 WAS L 32-21 927 3.0 18 0
17 @DEN L 22-19 11 36 3.3 80


He was battling injury during the latter part of the season, but only a handfull of games before that point really stand out. I'm posting this because I think it's interesting.

Against GB in week 4: 9.3 YPC average with a long run of 55 yards.

Against CHI in week 6: 11.2 YPC average with a long run of 73 yards.

Against SD in week 9: 9.9 YPC average with a long run of 64 yards.

Against DET (a team Michael Turner just torched) in week 13: 7.7 YPC average with a long run of 28.


What's my point? Certainly not to deride him because, even though I ignore the hype, we can only imagine what he could do if he didn't have a Caste nightmare of a QB. This serves to illustrate that most teams managed to bring him down without allowing huge gains. Yes, it's possible to break tackles, but the "tackling" in that San Diego game was simply horrendous. I'm not going to cry over spilt milk.

The question is: Did the media try to minimize him? Hell NO! NEVER!!


If Flacco was black, the media would espouse nothing but praise for him and there wouldn't be EVEN a hint of attempted minimization. You can take that to the bank.
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Deadlift said:
I think 9 completions for 161 yards is obviously "better" than merely a game-managing performance.

I didn't see the game, but those numbers... 9 of 13 for 161 yards, 1 INT, 1 TD is pretty much the definition of game management, imo.

And there's nothing wrong with that. Edited by: White Shogun
 

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Lets compare what the media had to say about Flacco and Ryan to Vince Young during his first win in his thrid start of 2006.

Here is a title from an AP article.
"Vince Young gets Titans' First Win"

Since it is AP I can't quote it word for word, but the basic theme of the article was that Vince Young personally rallied the Titans from an 11 point first half defecit to lead the Titans to a 25-22 win over Washington with key passes and superior leadership while playing with a sprained ankle in the 4th quarter.

His stats for that day were 13-25 52% 161yds 1Td 85.6 rating. 7 carries for 9yds and a fumble which was recovered by the offense. They barely give credit to Travis Henry who ran for a career high 178 yards on 32 carries with 1td, or 3 field goals from Bironas including the game winner. They also failed to mention the fact that Tennessee's came up with a few really big plays in the game including an interception and a couple of fumble recoveries, including a cruical fumble recovery by the Tennessee special teams at 8:30 to give the Titans good field position at the WAS 43 yard line which set up the game winning field goal.

Of course, that is the way it is with young black QB's, especially those who have been annoited by the NFL caste system. When they win, it is all on their shoulders. When they lose, it is in spite of their efforts.Edited by: Bear Backer
 

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That is so true. I watched a Titans game last year (cant even remember which one it was now) where Vince Young played really poorly and despite this, the Titans wound up winning and the announcers basically followed the script that you have layed out. I believe one of the morons even made a comment to the order of: "Sometimes Vinces numbers don't always tell the real story of how he helps this team win. Anytime he is on the field you just get the sense that he is going to help the Titans to win." I guess it falls back to the Magic Negro theory everytime with Vince, regardless of how bad he sucks.

Man, I remember that. I couldn't believe it. Now that the Young mystique is behind us, who's going to be the new Superman at QB? Russel? the guy from the Vikings?
 
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