Grayson Allen "Duke's Next Villain"

Jack Lambert

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Freethinker said:
Hawkeye, I agree only with the crybaby point. Even though plenty of black athletes have done the same, we need to hold our own to higher standards.

However, I think the whole point of the Caste System, as it pertains to basketball, is to put talented Whites in secondary roles. Could McDermott develop into a James Harden like player (another guy who's a poor defender) if he started and was allowed to be an offensive focal point? Do the Zeller brothers have plays run for them on offense or are they out there to set screens, rebound and block a shot? Olynyk has injuries and might not be the best defender but I've never seen him have trouble scoring the ball.

White talent is simply not developed like their black counterparts. In instances where they are, they are not allowed to be the alpha, leader like Dirk in his prime.
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This is the big thing I have noticed from watching games this year. There are precious few white leaders on top teams. I'd say Kennard is the most high profile one; Alford and Leaf are two more that will lead the team in scoring and demand the ball as well. Farrell for Notre Dame and Chrabascz for Butler as well. The thing is, even on white-friendly teams, a black is still considered "the team leader" more often than not, and will of course get all of the shots drawn up for them.

There used to be a fair amount of white leaders on good college basketball teams in the recent past; you had guys like Dellavadova at St. Mary's, Chandler Parson and Nick Calathes at Florida, Gordon Hayward/Matt Howard at Butler, Scheyer, Singler, Plumlee, etc. at Duke, Robbie Hummel at Purdue, Uthoff at Iowa, McDermott at Creighton, Kaminsky and Dekker at Wisconsin, McConnell and Tarczewski at Arizona, Jimmer and Tyler Haws at BYU, Stauskas and McGary at Michigan, Joe Harris at Virginia, Pangos and Wiltjer at Gonzaga, and the list could go on.

The media helps with this as well. I remember that ESPN always used to show starting lineups before the game. Now they barely do, and just talk about "key players" from each team who just so happen to be black more often than not. This helps to further the perception that any good white performances will "come out of nowhere" because the other team was busy guarding the "star" they hype up.

From what I've watched in the NBA this year, are whites even allowed to be developed into a leader anymore? I know Gordon Hayward for the Jazz has a pretty big role on the team, and Porzingis should be after Carmelo finally retires.
 
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JL brings up an interesting point. I remember when all telecasts for basketball and football games would announce the starting line up which I liked and appreciated. Imagine families and friends of the players who have their name announced or shown on national TV. It was always an honor for a player to MAKE the starting line up whether they were a "key" player or not. Then several years back( I can't remember exactly when but I do remember saying to myself this sucks) ESPN decided to cut out announcing the starting line ups in college football games and just focus on the "KEY" players (mainly black) just like JL describes. Which of course feeds into this whole hyped up hero worshipping the sports media has shoved down our throats ad nauseam.
Some stations still do announce the starting line ups in college football but ESPN and their pet station ABC only focus on the "studs".
As for the NBA, the lack of white leadership on teams is glaring and part but not all of the reason is the NBA white superstar is not around right now. Hawkeye makes some fair points about a lot of white college stars that flame out in the NBA but that happens to a lot of black players too. The problem is there are so few white players in the league to make up the difference whereas there is a huge pool of black players so there is always a steady supply of black players and black stars. The Zeller brothers? Tyler was a solid prospect but I don't think anyone thought of him as elite. Cody had more hype. He is moving along slowly but he is still only 24 and his shooting percentage has always been stellar. He still could move up as a steady starter down the road and he is very athletic. Then again he could just float along on the same level. Only time will tell.
As for Grayson I see him as important because he represents the slashing athletic white 2 guard you rarely see in the NBA anymore. We have Dragic who is more of a point guard and Hayward pretty much carrying the load right now.
 
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JL brings up an interesting point. I remember when all telecasts for basketball and football games would announce the starting line up which I liked and appreciated. Imagine families and friends of the players who have their name announced or shown on national TV. It was always an honor for a player to MAKE the starting line up whether they were a "key" player or not. Then several years back( I can't remember exactly when but I do remember saying to myself this sucks) ESPN decided to cut out announcing the starting line ups in college football games and just focus on the "KEY" players (mainly black) just like JL describes. Which of course feeds into this whole hyped up hero worshipping the sports media has shoved down our throats ad nauseam.
Some stations still do announce the starting line ups in college football but ESPN and their pet station ABC only focus on the "studs".
As for the NBA, the lack of white leadership on teams is glaring and part but not all of the reason is the NBA white superstar is not around right now. Hawkeye makes some fair points about a lot of white college stars that flame out in the NBA but that happens to a lot of black players too. The problem is there are so few white players in the league to make up the difference whereas there is a huge pool of black players so there is always a steady supply of black players and black stars. The Zeller brothers? Tyler was a solid prospect but I don't think anyone thought of him as elite. Cody had more hype. He is moving along slowly but he is still only 24 and his shooting percentage has always been stellar. He still could move up as a steady starter down the road and he is very athletic. Then again he could just float along on the same level. Only time will tell.
As for Grayson I see him as important because he represents the slashing athletic white 2 guard you rarely see in the NBA anymore. We have Dragic who is more of a point guard and Hayward pretty much carrying the load right now.
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If I remember right, cutting the starting football lineups came a few years before the basketball lineups. I believe ESPN stopped with the basketball lineups just a couple of years ago. However, you're right: FOX and CBS still show the starting lineups before their games (at least for basketball). I'm always a fan of seeing the starting lineups as well, rather than that afterthought lineup that comes across the bottom when the game's already started.
 
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Come on we're not allowed to have just one guy on our team who has a few screws loose ? Every week we see black players chimping out, throwing temper tantrums, and bawling their eyes out on the bench but a White kid finally does it and we have to throw him under the bus ? He's still a great basketball player. And other then the way overblown "tripping incidents" and the one meltdown I've yet to hear anything bad about him.

And if you think racial discrimination and apprenticeships are bad in the NFL they're much worse in the NBA. If you're a white American player and you get drafted high nobody wants you to succeed. The league, your coaches, and your coworkers will do everything they can to make sure you don't. Doug McDermott was a lottery pick and NCAA national player of the year and he only got to play 8 minutes a game in the 30 games he was even activated for. Sure he got injured but he was back in a month. It's impossible to succeed getting only 8 minutes a game even if you're a rookie. The same goes for a lot of White American players who are lucky enough to make it to the NBA. It happened to JJ Reddick, Jimmer, Stauskas, and countless other players. JJ Reddick, one of the greatest college basketball players of all time, was so upset with his lack of playing time early in his career that he even wanted to be traded. After a long racial apprenticeship he finally found a good role on the Clippers averaging 16 ppg as a third option and past his athletic prime. The guy could have averaged 25 ppg if he were treated like any other black lottery pick. If you're a black lottery pick you're immediately given a ton of minutes every night and a green light to shoot. Jimmer, McDermott, and Reddick all could have been 25 ppg scorers if given a fair chance.

And I honestly don't know if McDermott is a bad defender but I do know that being a bad defender is something you can accuse almost any white player of and everyone will believe you. The ironic thing is that it's usually blacks who are the worst defenders because of how lazy they are. If you want a black player to play good defense give them a white or asian guy to guard, they'll actually give some effort then.
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Those are excellent points. I agree that both McDermott and Mirotic could be all star players. Yet they rot on the bench or don't get the opportunity to play. Guys that are allowed to become a star like Nowitzki are very rare. The nba just does not want white stars. Larry Bird said many times that the league needs more white stars to increase the ratings. They ignorred his opinions and many others so they can continue to hold these white athletes down. What a damn shame.
 
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Well, Grayson Allen manages to make the news again. This time, he allegedly "pushed" Florida State assistant coach Dennis Gates as he hustled to try and save a loose ball out of bounds. The announcers never mentioned it during the game, but now, ESPN has brought this non-incident to the forefront. Gates himself said it is a complete non-issue, but yet there ESPN is, trying to make it one. There is one way to eventually wake some people up to the caste system: completely over-doing it on stuff like this. Looking at a lot of the Facebook comments after the original video, many people were also calling it BS. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...comments-on-grayson-allens-controversial-play

Here is the play: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...orida-state-coach-while-diving-for-loose-ball
 
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More fake news.

The hysterical accusations against the alternative media of fake news, is backfiring on the true purveyors of it, as so much else has backfired on them over the past 18 months. President Trump called CNN a fake news outlet at his press conference today. Only the brain dead and the anti-Whites believe the "mainstream" media, while Americans who can think for themselves continue to turn to the alternative media for news and information.
 
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Those are excellent points. I agree that both McDermott and Mirotic could be all star players. Yet they rot on the bench or don't get the opportunity to play. Guys that are allowed to become a star like Nowitzki are very rare. The nba just does not want white stars. Larry Bird said many times that the league needs more white stars to increase the ratings. They ignorred his opinions and many others so they can continue to hold these white athletes down. What a damn shame.
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Really enjoyed watching Larry Bird, but he didn't help with the caste system with quotes such as, " It's, (the NBA), is a black man's game and always will be". Also, he said, " he didn't care who guarded him; red, yellow, or black. He just didn't want a "white guy" guarding him. Because it's disrespect to my game".
 
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Just now flipped to ESPN. It was halftime of the Texas A&M-Mississippi State game. First thing I saw was, what else, the video of Allen running out of bounds and his "push" of the coach. All three announcers were White, at least on the outside, and all three agreed Allen had intentionally pushed the coach and that he had to watch his behavior.

They mitigated their denunciation by mentioning that Donovan Mitchell, of the Magical Race but not shown onscreen, had recently pushed and slapped Allen and nothing was seen by the referees somehow, and that it was unfair to keep picking on Allen. But there they were, how many days later, still showing and commenting on a non-incident by Grayson Allen, adding to the voluminous hatred he already faces as a successful White athlete.
 
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Allen is unfortunately not aware of the double standard that applies to white athletes. I hope he comes to a racial awakening and realizes what he is up against so he can navigate through all of these attacks on him.
 
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