Artur Szpilka

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It looks to me that Szpilka should be the favorite. He's had better opponents and he hits harder. I don't know why the bookies have Jennings the favorite. Maybe they know something I don't know ($$$).

http://www.pinnaclesports.com/ContestCategory/Boxing/Lines.aspx
In the US (especially in New York) a foreign white boxer usually needs a KO to beat an African-American boxer.

The shady boxing judges will give the rounds to Jennings, whether he deserves them or not. And on HBO, the despicable Max Kellerman will be discrediting Szpilka and praising Jennings.
 

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In the US (especially in New York) a foreign white boxer usually needs a KO to beat an African-American boxer.

The shady boxing judges will give the rounds to Jennings, whether he deserves them or not. And on HBO, the despicable Max Kellerman will be discrediting Szpilka and praising Jennings.

But on the other hand there will be a lot of Polish fans from NY and NJ in attendance rooting for Szpilka.

They shouldn't be allowed to be holding any more boxing matches in MSG after the way they treated Mago.
 

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It looks to me that Szpilka should be the favorite. He's had better opponents and he hits harder. I don't know why the bookies have Jennings the favorite. Maybe they know something I don't know ($$$).

http://www.pinnaclesports.com/ContestCategory/Boxing/Lines.aspx
Jennings has beaten marginal better guys or at least hasn't struggled with them. Also you have to take in account Americans will largely bet on the fight and the casual bettor will bet on a guy they know. I thought he would be an 8 to 5 favorite, 3 to 1 seems a bit high but you have also realize maybe a big bettor put down a line that moved Pinnacles line.
 

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Jennings has beaten marginal better guys or at least hasn't struggled with them. Also you have to take in account Americans will largely bet on the fight and the casual bettor will bet on a guy they know. I thought he would be an 8 to 5 favorite, 3 to 1 seems a bit high but you have also realize maybe a big bettor put down a line that moved Pinnacles line.


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"They shouldn't be allowed to be holding any more boxing matches in MSG after the way they treated Mago."

Just business as usual as though nothing happened, as though they didn't hand Mago and his team a piece of paper and say, here's your insurance form, exit on the right. Not even a slap on the wrist, same as always when the high and the mighty "investigate" each other, and New York State Athletic Commission and chairwoman Melvina Lathan will be probably sitting on her fat ass in her free seat again watching this one too.
 

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"They shouldn't be allowed to be holding any more boxing matches in MSG after the way they treated Mago."

Just business as usual as though nothing happened, as though they didn't hand Mago and his team a piece of paper and say, here's your insurance form, exit on the right. Not even a slap on the wrist, same as always when the high and the mighty "investigate" each other, and New York State Athletic Commission and chairwoman Melvina Lathan will be probably sitting on her fat ass in her free seat again watching this one too.

Fighters have to have a little common sense too. If the organizers and coordinators of these events appear crooked, then why participate? Unfortunately, most fighters are morons with respect to contracts, law, and evaluating people. Someone promises them a few bucks and they jump for it.
 

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"They shouldn't be allowed to be holding any more boxing matches in MSG after the way they treated Mago."

Just business as usual as though nothing happened, as though they didn't hand Mago and his team a piece of paper and say, here's your insurance form, exit on the right. Not even a slap on the wrist, same as always when the high and the mighty "investigate" each other, and New York State Athletic Commission and chairwoman Melvina Lathan will be probably sitting on her fat ass in her free seat again watching this one too.
Maybe the White Wolf or Bowie Totupu. Struggling with a gritty Mollo isn't going to get rated higher with the odds makers in a near pickem fight.
 

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Thanks. It says it starts at 9:45PM ET/PT, which means it's on tape delay out west - or is it on tape delay everyplace, since the actual fights start at MSG at 6PM?

6pm? Seems very early for a fight. I would think Szpilka gets in the ring around 8-9pm.
 

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6 PM is the time the undercard begins. There will be nine fights.

http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=683998

Szpilka-Jennings, the second last fight, will likely be at about 9:45 to 10 PM.

There's a very good reason not to go to the fights in person, namely you've got to sit through four hours of 125 pounders bouncing around the ring for a full ten rounds each.

But then there's Murphy's Law, which means that if I switch the fights on even one minute late they'll put the main event on first with no intros, and it already ended with a stunning KO at 20 seconds into round one!
 

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Bizarre fight. Szpilka lost by tko to Jennings though he didn't look hurt at all -he just looked tired. Jennings is not much, he sure doesn't seem to be a hard hitter, and his corner didn't seem very surprised that he "won". Szpilka, who didn't seem very surprised or upset that he "lost", didn't throw many power shots and never seemed to try very hard to win. I don't know if it was a fix or not but it all seemed strange.
 

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No - Szpilka just isn't that good. He was life or death with journeyhman Mike Mollo in 2012.
 

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Artur is still very young, five years younger than Jennings. So he may improve. His focus may have been off just a bit because of the confusion last week and the several time zone changes.

To be fair, Jennings was fighting well - he was focused, relaxed and confident. It will be interesting to see who he fights next - perhaps Andy Ruiz?
 
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In some ways it`s disappointing that Szpilka lost, but as Carcharias notes, it is absolutely true that he is very young and may improve in the future. It would have been ideal if Artur could have hungon and lose a decision, because a decision loss is usually easier to improve on than a TKO loss. But that being said, there is room for improvement with Artur.

The good news is Artur didn`t take many punches in this fight, so for sure his health is fine. I also agree with what Ambrose notes, that Artur seemed to be knocked out by fatigue more than actual punches. He looked dead tired in there to me, and the TKO appeared to come from the pace of the fight more so than the power of Jennings` shots.

I watched the fight socially, and I thought Szpilka had won perhaps 3 or 4 rounds in the fight, so Szpilka gave a good effort and account of himself. This was not a `dominating` win from Jennings and actually I thought the fight was relatively even up until the middle rounds when Jennings started to take over.

Overall, I don`t see either Szpilka or Jennings making it far in the heavyweight division. Perhaps they can improve. But realistically, at the present time, I`d favour Tyson Fury, Cris Arreola, Tony Thompson above both of them (just to name a few names). To be honest, I fancy even someone like Seth Mitchell might be able to get a win against them.

One of the reasons why Wladimir Klitschko, Gennady Golovkin, Joe Calzaghe and so on are special and all-time greats is because before even turning pro, these guys had like literally hundreds of amateur fights. Neither Szpilka or Jennings has that and it shows. In the HBO broadcast, they mentioned Szpilka`s amateur background, but to my knowledge he only took up boxing in his late teens.

It`s very hard for someone to be a champion or even a great fighter without having started boxing at a young age, and having many amateur fights.

I give credit to both fighters, Szpilka and Jennings on giving a good effort and I also give credit to both fighters on being willing to fight each other and risk losing their undefeated record. The truth is, many heavyweights take the `easy road` up the rankings (Deontay Wilder), so it`s refreshing to see two guys who aren`t afraid to take risks and take a ballsy approach to the fight game with respect to their matchmaking.
 

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In some ways it`s disappointing that Szpilka lost, but as Carcharias notes, it is absolutely true that he is very young and may improve in the future. It would have been ideal if Artur could have hungon and lose a decision, because a decision loss is usually easier to improve on than a TKO loss. But that being said, there is room for improvement with Artur.

The good news is Artur didn`t take many punches in this fight, so for sure his health is fine. I also agree with what Ambrose notes, that Artur seemed to be knocked out by fatigue more than actual punches. He looked dead tired in there to me, and the TKO appeared to come from the pace of the fight more so than the power of Jennings` shots.

I watched the fight socially, and I thought Szpilka had won perhaps 3 or 4 rounds in the fight, so Szpilka gave a good effort and account of himself. This was not a `dominating` win from Jennings and actually I thought the fight was relatively even up until the middle rounds when Jennings started to take over.

Overall, I don`t see either Szpilka or Jennings making it far in the heavyweight division. Perhaps they can improve. But realistically, at the present time, I`d favour Tyson Fury, Cris Arreola, Tony Thompson above both of them (just to name a few names). To be honest, I fancy even someone like Seth Mitchell might be able to get a win against them.

One of the reasons why Wladimir Klitschko, Gennady Golovkin, Joe Calzaghe and so on are special and all-time greats is because before even turning pro, these guys had like literally hundreds of amateur fights. Neither Szpilka or Jennings has that and it shows. In the HBO broadcast, they mentioned Szpilka`s amateur background, but to my knowledge he only took up boxing in his late teens.

It`s very hard for someone to be a champion or even a great fighter without having started boxing at a young age, and having many amateur fights.

I give credit to both fighters, Szpilka and Jennings on giving a good effort and I also give credit to both fighters on being willing to fight each other and risk losing their undefeated record. The truth is, many heavyweights take the `easy road` up the rankings (Deontay Wilder), so it`s refreshing to see two guys who aren`t afraid to take risks and take a ballsy approach to the fight game with respect to their matchmaking.
BS2, one of your fav fighters Rosado fought and lost tonight against up and coming Charlo. It seems he always cuts easily and it affects his performance. He lost a UD tonight although I thought it was closer. He last fought against Quillan and had momentum and appeared to be taking over, but the fight was stopped due to a huge gash on his eye brow, same as tonight, tho the fight was allowed to continue. Man, his chance to be a world champ against kid cocoa was lost. I feel he would have KO'd Quillan if not for the cut. Tough breaks Rosado has had.
 

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I am very disappointed in Szpilka. I felt that Jennings would have some success against him but that eventually Szpilka would get the KO due to his persistence and aggressiveness.
 

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Boxrec had Szpilka rated #33 and Jennings 31. So how did they bump Jennings all the way up to #13 by beating a #33 guy?
 
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